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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

2222.0. "Mrgate and PS.PRA !" by KAOFS::R_OBAS () Fri Feb 05 1993 20:38

    Hello,
      I have no way of verifying this customer problem, I do not have an
    Apple LAser Writer.
      The customer set up a printer type in ALL-IN-1 to handle printing of
    PS files, destination printer is the Apple laser. Any thing that is sent
    to that printer (text,WPSPLUS,wps) ,ALL-IN-1 converts it to PS then
    it gets printed using the PS.pra.
    The customer wants to make some change within the PS.PRA so they made a
    copy and named it say CS.PRA. NO changes were made at this time from
    the copy. When they use this CS.PRA, it still works the same way when
    using the original PS.PRA except when the message comes from MRGATE, the
    document is rejected and it will not print. Using the PS.PRA, same
    document coming from MRGATE gets printed.
    
    THanks,
    ricardo
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2222.1More information pleaseIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Fri Feb 05 1993 22:119
What error messages do you get?

The problem may be because you are trying to print final form files with a 
format of 'CS' to a 'PS' (PostScript) printer destination.  ALL-IN-1 checks
that only PS final form files are sent to PostScript printers.


Richard
2222.3KAOFS::R_OBASTue Feb 09 1993 20:5917
    
     The only error message is the normal error from the printed output
    "OFFENDING COMMAND........" because it is not a PS format.
     And this is where the question is. Why it does not process a document 
     that came from MRGATE when the copied PS.PRA file is used? (the copied 
     file was named LWIIJ.pra). Same document that is rejected using
    LWIIJ.pra works okey using PS.PRA. When the rejected document was
    converted from TEXT to ASCII (WP DT), and re-printed using LWIIJ.pra,
    it was printed and no errors. The copied file (LWIIJ.pra) is only
    picky on documents coming from MRGATE. THe only change done on the
    copied PRA is the name. CHanged from PS to LWIIJ, the contents is the
    same. ??
    Any more hints please.
    
    thanks
    ricardo
2222.4Compare filesIOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Tue Feb 09 1993 22:529
So its the printer that is rejecting the file, and not ALL-IN-1 refusing to 
submit the file to the printer destination.

Are the print files the same?  I suspect the answer will be no.

What is the data type and handling of the message you are trying to print.


Richard
2222.5Stay tuned !KAOFS::R_OBASTue Feb 09 1993 23:1712
    
    I'll compare them again but the last test we had, any data type that
    comes out from MRGATE do not get rejected so long as we use the
    original PS.PRA. But then again I may have missed it. (the data type
    and handling) But I still do not understand as to why changing the name
    from PS.PRA to ANYNAME.PRA rejects the document coming from MRGATE.
    Thanks loads Richard.
    By the way, if it would be of any help,the setup is through Pathworks
    for MAC.
    
    ricardo
2222.7Device type must be 'PS'IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO2-G/L2Mon Feb 22 1993 11:1633
There are certain points in the ALL-IN-1 Document Processing where it has
to handle PostScript as a special case.  It tests for PostScript by looking
for a device type of 'PS' of the printer destination.  You are changing the 
device type to 'TEST', which will prevent ALL-IN-1 from doing the special 
processing for PostScript.


ASCII documents are normally formatted using the ALL-IN-1 ASCII formatter.
The ASCII formatter only produces one type of output (LP11) and does not
have a device type parameter.  Because it is not able to produce PostScript
output we look for the situation of using the ASCII formatter when printing
to a PostScript printer and convert this to using the WPS-PLUS formatter,
which is able to format an ASCII file into PostScript output (see
OA$DO:FILEFORMAT.SCP). 

I can see from the OA$FORMATTER job information that when the device type
was 'PS' WPS-PLUS formatting was requested (OA$FMTCTL=22).  When the device 
type was 'TEST' ASCII formatting was requested (OA$FMTCTL=11).


The messages from MRGATE are being created with an ASCII data type.  You
will probably find that any ASCII document or message will not print
correctly when the device type is 'TEST', so it's not a problem specific to 
MRGATE messages.  The reason that other types of messages work is that they 
use the WPS-PLUS formatter.


For ALL-IN-1 to correctly handle ASCII formatted documents being printed to 
PostScript printers the device type has to be 'PS'.


Richard