Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

The same information is on Page 1-2 of the Release Notes that came with 
the patch:
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        1.6  RESOURCES
        
        During the installation of this patch, you must have a minimum
        of 55 000 blocks of free disk space on the system disk temporarily,
        and an additional 20 000 blocks per language. This means for example,
        that you need 75 000 blocks of free disk space for an ALL-IN-1 system
        with one language.

        The following table clarifies the disk space requirements:

        Table 1-1 Disk Space Requirements

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        |                        |   CART   |  Install   |  Deinstall   |
        |________________________|__________|____________|______________|
        |                        |          |            |              |
        | Peak System disk       |  1 000   |  55 000    |   40 000     |
        |                        |          |+ 20 000/llv| + 20 000/llv |
        |________________________|__________|____________|______________|
        |                        |          |            |              |
        | System disk after      |    500   |     500    |      0       |
        | installation           |          |            |              |
        |________________________|__________|____________|______________|
        |                        |          |            |              |
        | Target disk after      | 300/llv  |  14 000    |  14 000  (B) |
        | installation           |          |+  1 000/llv|+  1 000/llv  |
        |________________________|__________|____________|______________|

        (A) = [OA$BUILD_SHARE]
        (B) = These blocks are released.
        
        Before you install this patch, make sure that your system has 
        sufficient physical memory, global pages, and global sections 
        available for the installation. When you relink ALL-IN-1
        during the patch installation you will need twice the global pages
        and global sections normally required for installing ALL-IN-1.
        See the ALL-IN-1 Installation Guide for more details.  

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    Regards,
    
    Bina

    Bina,
    
    I even did not even look at the release notes when the customer 
    gave such a big number of 81400.... 
    
    Is this really the correct value ?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Jan
    
    
    

    Jan,        
    
    Fraid so, it depends on what you end up with after you add up the numbers
    in the table that Bina posted. It's a scary number I know but what with
    the size of this beast it makes you wonder how big any subsequent
    superset PFP would be doesn't it?
    
    Still RA82s hold 900,000 blocks so v3.0-9 should still fit (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Jan,
    
    one other thing that just occurred to me can catch you out is that the
    figure for free disk-space does *NOT* include the space that will be
    used if you install the CART datafile and run the CART before
    installing v3.0-1
    
    see the STARS article
    'rms-dev-full, device full' Error While Installing ALL-IN-1 V3.0-1
    Patch      
    for the full story                                     
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    

    Hello,
    
    Wow. It is big. Peak usage was about 65000 on my system disk.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    

    One of my customers has attempted to install v3.0-1 today. 
    She has only 35000 blocks free on the system disk, and the kit checks for
    81400 blocks.
    
    I told her to try with VMSINSTAL OPTIONS AWD. 
    She created a directory on a disk with more than 600000 blocks, in
    order to use that as alternate working directory, but the installation
    still required 81400 blocks free on the system disk. 
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    Can't options AWD be used with the ALL-IN-1 v3.0-1 patch kit?
    - Can AWD be used if I modify the disk space checks in KITINSTAL.COM?
    
    Please, a quick answer, the customer is waiting at the telephone.
    
    Elin

    Elin,
    
    Note that STARS contains a number of articles on the AWD option
    and it's use with ALL-IN-1 which indicate some problems using
    it with both the WPS-PLUS v4 Option and with ALL-IN-1 v3.0.
    
    Though none of them explicitily mention v3.0-1 this early on Monday 
    morning I would make a rash assumption that some of the information in
    them could apply to your customer.
    
    Search on:
     72-AWD VMSINSTALL Option May Be Used If No Enough Free System Disk Space  
 72-Revised Cover Letter For WPS-PLUS V4.0 Option For ALL-IN-1 V2.4           
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks

    Hi Andrew
    
    I know that we have had problems with AWD in earlier ALL-IN-1 
    versions, but I have just done an installation of ALL-IN-1/Dansk
    (Danish) v3.0 where I used VMSINSTAL OPTIONS AWD with no problems on a
    system with too little disk space on the system disk.
    I was surprised and happy about this, that ALL-IN-1 engineering had now
    started building kits in a way that allowed for the AWD option to be
    used.
    
    I still hope that someone will tell me that the v3.0-1 patch will
    install if I do a minor change to KITINSTAL.COM.
    
    Why can't this patch be installed in NONSAFETY mode?
    You can install a whole ALL-IN-1 system in NONSAFETY mode with only
    35000 blocks free on the system disk. 
    It doesn't seem right that we need 81400 just to install a patch.
    
    Elin

    Sorry Elin,
    
    	But V3.0-1 patch installation tool does NOT support use of AWD. We 
    will have to look at this as the next patch kit is accumulative and 
    will contain V3.0-1.  
    
    Jim Parker 

    Elin,
    
    Well I guess you have your answer now since .9 is the man in charge
    of patch kits. Sorry I could only repeat the bad news.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks

    Thanks, Jim and Andrew,
    
    I have told my customer to wait for the next patch kit and hope that
    the AWD option will then be supported.
    
    Elin