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	Dick, thank you for your response.
>    I assume this is V3.0 :-)
>    WPS-PLUS?
    
	Yes, this is V3.0/Japanese and the editor is EVEJ(Japanese Version
      of EVE).
>    Do an ID (index drawers) and R(ead) the drawer in question.
>    Does it warn you that you do not have R or E access to some high level
>    directory in the drawer path.
    
	No, it functioned properly, I mean no warning messages. The output 
      is in Japanese, so I don't put it here.
>    If possible could you do a dir/sec right down the directory chain to
>    the document in question?
    
	$ dir/sec disk$a1liaison:[nagura.allin1]z*
	Directory DISK$A1LIAISON:[NAGURA.ALLIN1]
    
        ZUMJMSH21.DIR;1      [LIAISON,NAGURA]      (RWED,RWED,,E)
                  (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:,WORLD:E)
	$ dir/sec disk$a1liaison:[nagura.allin1.zumjmsh21]doc1.dir
	Directory DISK$A1LIAISON:[NAGURA.ALLIN1.ZUMJMSH21]
    
        DOC1.DIR;1           [LIAISON,NAGURA]      (RWED,RWED,,E)
                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,NAGURA],OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+
                  WRITE+DELETE+CONTROL)
                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,NAGURA],ACCESS=READ+WRITE+DELETE+CONTROL)
                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,OTSUKA],ACCESS=READ)
	$ dir/sec disk$a1liaison:[nagura.allin1.zumjmsh21.doc1]
	Directory DISK$A1LIAISON:[NAGURA.ALLIN1.ZUMJMSH21.DOC1]
    
        ZUMJMV1NE.TXT;1      [LIAISON,NAGURA]      (RWED,RWED,RE,)
                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,NAGURA],ACCESS=READ+WRITE+DELETE+CONTROL)
                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,OTSUKA],ACCESS=READ)
	Regards, Yukiji
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|  |     Yukiji
    
    Assuming that it is Otsuka who is having the problem then the document
    cannot be edited by them because it only allows read. The default ACL
    on doc1 shows that this is a result of the default setting for new
    documents in that drawer. If you want Otsuka to be able to edit just
    this document then you should use FC MDO to modify its access.
    Alternatively you can use DRM ASO SDA to modify it for all new
    documents (and, optionally, existing documents) in the drawer.
    
    However I'm still puzzled. The edit should never have got that far. If
    Otsuka is local they should have got "You are not allowed to edit ..."
    or, if remote, "Document could not be reserved / Insufficient
    priviledge ..." and the edit should never have started. I can only
    assume that the EVEJ environment is not conforming to the reservation
    conventions (WP_SYS_EDIT.SCP/WP_SYS_CLOSE.SCP). Can you confirm this
    either way?
    
    Regards,  Dick
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|  |     
>    Assuming that it is Otsuka who is having the problem then the document
>    cannot be edited by them because it only allows read. The default ACL
>    on doc1 shows that this is a result of the default setting for new
>    documents in that drawer. If you want Otsuka to be able to edit just
>    this document then you should use FC MDO to modify its access.
	Oooooooops !!!
	Sorry for puzzling you, Dick. Obviously I had a typo. When I read 
     your reply first, I can't follow you, but after checking my .2, Gee !
>	$ dir/sec disk$a1liaison:[nagura.allin1.zumjmsh21.doc1]
>	Directory DISK$A1LIAISON:[NAGURA.ALLIN1.ZUMJMSH21.DOC1]
    
>        ZUMJMV1NE.TXT;1      [LIAISON,NAGURA]      (RWED,RWED,RE,)
>                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,NAGURA],ACCESS=READ+WRITE+DELETE+CONTROL)
>                  (IDENTIFIER=[LIAISON,OTSUKA],ACCESS=READ)
                                                       READ+WRITE
						       ^^^^^^^^^^
        Of cource, it has a write access. I'm not using DECwindows environment,
      I made this output by cut and paste, and also made a blunder.
	Regards, Yukiji
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|  | >  <<< Note 2057.4 by EWBV51::NAGURA
>                                  -< Oops ! >-
    
    Don't worry, I've been guilty of asking irrelevant questions.
    
    Sorry about the delay, but here is the answer:
    
    I assume you are running V3.0 and not V3.0-1. If not then I'm puzzled
    again.
    
    V3.0 unfortunately required that users have CREATE access to the drawer
    to allow them to edit using "new-version" editors (eg EVE, EDT).
    
    So your alternatives are
    
    1. Upgrade to V3.0-1 (which cures the bug) or
    
    2. Give OTSUKA CREATE access to the drawer.
    
    So you were right all along.
    
    Regards, Dick
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