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| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference | 
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 | 
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE | 
|  | 
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 4343 | 
| Total number of notes: | 18308 | 
1902.0. "Protection ALL-IN-1 directories in site area" by BRSSWS::BERVOETS (Luc Bervoets - CSC Brussels alive and kicking) Fri Dec 04 1992 16:22
    
    
    
    Hallo,
    
    I have a question and problem concerning default WORLD protection of	
    several directories  in the site area.
    
    Why is the protection for the WORLD blanco for the following
    directories
    
    BLP_ENGLISH.DIR,BLP_SHARE.DIR,DEV_REC_ENGLISH.DIR,DEV_REC_SHARE.DIR,
    DO_ENGLISH.DIR,DO_SHARE.DIR,SCP_ENGLISH.DIR and SCP_SHARE.DIR
    
    This causes problems when using ALL-IN-1 with the following command
    ALLIN1/SCRIPT="name of script in site area"
    
    the error message that you receive is 
    
    "%OA-E-SCPOPEN, Error opening SCRIPT file "!AS""
    
    When using ALLIN1/NOINIT and then SCRIPT scriptname you receive 
    "Insufficient priv....."
    
    Those problems are solved when putting the protection for the WORLD on
    RE .
    Is there any special reason for those setting or is it an error during
    installation of ALL-IN-1 that those directories are set up with wrong
    protection.
    
    Included you will find the listing of directories
    
    Thanks,
    
    Luc.
Directory DISK$1:[ALLIN1.TSCSITE]
BLP_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
BLP_SHARE.DIR;1      OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
CBI_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RWE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
DATA_ENGLISH.DIR;1   OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
DATA_SHARE.DIR;1     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
DEV_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$PRVAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
DEV_REC_ENGLISH.DIR;1
                     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
DEV_REC_SHARE.DIR;1
                     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
DEV_SHARE.DIR;1      OA$PRVAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
DO_ENGLISH.DIR;1     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
DO_SHARE.DIR;1       OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
LIB_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
LIB_SHARE.DIR;1      OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
PRINT.DIR;1          OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RWE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
SCP_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
SCP_SHARE.DIR;1      OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
SOURCES_ENGLISH.DIR;1
                     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
SOURCES_SHARE.DIR;1
                     OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:RE)
Total of 18 files.
    
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 | Date | Lines | 
|---|
| 1902.1 | It is correct for the TXL directories to have no W:R | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Fri Dec 04 1992 17:05 | 8 | 
|  |     It is correct for the directories that contain files that go into the
    TXL (i.e. OA$BLP, OA$DO, OA$SCP) to have *NO* world access. The files
    should be executed out of the TXL and not from the directory. This has
    not changed for some time as far as I can remember.
    
    Is the TXL compiled and installed?
    
    Graham
 | 
| 1902.2 | TXL compiled and installed | BACHUS::BERVOETS | Luc Bervoets - CSC Brussels alive and kicking | Mon Dec 07 1992 12:30 | 146 | 
|  | Hallo,
Graham.
The script was included in CMTXL and this TXL file was installed as you can see
in the following info.
The name of the SCRIPT OA$SCP:SGB.SCP.
			TXL compiling 
			*************
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_BLP_ENGLISH
No or empty directory "OA$SITE_BLP_ENGLISH" for TXL BLP's -- continuing Text Lib
rary compilation
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_DO_ENGLISH
TXL> DO ARCHIVE_SYS_USER_FOLDERS
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_SCP_ENGLISH
TXL> SCRIPT SGB
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_BLP_SHARE
No or empty directory "OA$SITE_BLP_SHARE" for TXL BLP's -- continuing Text Libra
ry compilation
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_DO_SHARE
No or empty directory "OA$SITE_DO_SHARE" for TXL DO's -- continuing Text Library
 compilation
TXL> Compiling source files in directory OA$SITE_SCP_SHARE
No or empty directory "OA$SITE_SCP_SHARE" for TXL SCRIPT's -- continuing Text Li
brary compilation
TXL> total bytes in elements = 12552
Text Library OA$SITE_LIB_LLV:CMTXL successfully compiled
			Protection of CMTXL.TXL
			***********************
DVP_Luc�dir oa$lib:cmtxl.txl/sec/date
Directory $1$DUA1:[ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]
CMTXL.TXL;5           7-DEC-1992 13:02:32.28  OA$MANAPP             (RWED,RWED,R
E,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
CMTXL.TXL;4           4-DEC-1992 16:37:40.28  OA$MANAPP             (RWED,RWED,R
E,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
Total of 2 files.
			Protection of Directory files
			*****************************
DVP_Luc�dir/sec tscsite.dir/sec
Directory $1$DUA1:[ALLIN1]
TSCSITE.DIR;1        [ALLIN1]              (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+
          DELETE)
Total of 1 file.
DVP_Luc�dir/sec scp_english.dir
Directory $1$DUA1:[ALLIN1.TSCSITE]
SCP_ENGLISH.DIR;1    OA$MANAPP             (RWE,RWE,RE,)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$PRVAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE)
          (IDENTIFIER=OA$MANAPP,OPTIONS=DEFAULT,ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+
          DELETE)
          (DEFAULT_PROTECTION,SYSTEM:RWED,OWNER:RWED,GROUP:RE,WORLD:)
Total of 1 file.
				Open files on ALL-IN-1 disk.
				****************************
Files accessed on device $1$DUA1: (HSC50, BRSSWS) on  7-DEC-1992 13:06:20.19
Process name      PID     File name
                00000000  [000000]INDEXF.SYS;1
                00000000  [000000]QUOTA.SYS;1
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPL$MAIN.EXE;6
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_ENGLISH]MEMRES.FLC;1
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_ENGLISH]OAFORM.FLC;1
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_ENGLISH]A1TXL.TXL;2
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPSCNV.EXE;2
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPSEDIT.EXE;2
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPSFORMAT.EXE;117
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPSLP.EXE;2
                00000000  [WPSPLUS.LIB_SHARE]WPSSORT.EXE;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]MAILCOUNT.EXE;15
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]OA$MAIN.EXE;27
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]OA$SUBMIT.EXE;16
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_SHARE]OA$TPU.EXE;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]ARC_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]CM_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]CBI_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]DIR_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]EM_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]FC_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]GS_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]KEY_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]NOTES_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OA_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]SA_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]SM_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]TM_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]WPL_SYM.A1$SECTION;2
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]MEMRES.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OAFORM.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OAN$FORMS.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEMEMRES.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEOAFORM.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]SITEOAN$FORMS.FLC;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]A1TXL.TXL;1
                00000000  [ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]CMTXL.TXL;4
                00000000  [ALLIN1.TSCSITE.LIB_ENGLISH]CMTXL.TXL;5
			Error message when executing
			****************************
1) $ ALLIN1/SCRIPT=SGB
%OA-E-SCPOPEN, Error opening SCRIPT file "!AS"
2) ALLIN1
	<SCRIPT OA$SCP:SGB
%OA-E-SCPOPEN, Error opening SCRIPT file "OA$SCP:SGB"                        
 -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation              
	<DO OA$SCP:SGB
%OA-E-SCPOPEN, Error opening SCRIPT file "OA$SCP:SGB"                        
 -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation              
Regards,
Luc.
    
 | 
| 1902.3 | Leave out the directory spec? | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Mon Dec 07 1992 13:42 | 8 | 
|  |     1) In tghe /NOINIT case, this might be caused because of a side effect
    of the XOWNPRV, see other notes here about that. Or it might be the
    same as 2)....
    
    2) By specifying <SCRIPT OA$SCP:SGB you force us to go to the file
    rather than the TXL I think. What happens if you just say <SCRIPT SGB?
    
    Graham
 | 
| 1902.4 | Also look at the ACL on the directories | IOSG::SCM | CM+ Development Team from Torino | Tue Dec 08 1992 09:46 | 10 | 
|  |     
    Luc,
    
    Does your account have any of the identifiers OA$PRVAPP & OA$MANAPP? If
    you have both, then OA$PRVAPP prevails OA$MANAPP which restircts you to
    Read-only. This has been discussed before also.
    
    Ciao,
    
    	Simon
 | 
| 1902.5 | allin1/script | BACHUS::BERVOETS | Luc Bervoets - CSC Brussels alive and kicking | Thu Dec 10 1992 09:45 | 25 | 
|  |     Hallo, 
    
    when doing <script SGB then it works fine.
    
    But when doing ALLIN1/SCRIPT=SGB then ALL-IN-1 is looking in the
    following directories and in this order.
    
    OA$SITE_LIB_ENGLISH
    OAUSER
    OA$SITE_LIB_SHARE
    OA$LIB_ENGLISH
    OA$LIB_SHARE
    
    But when copying the SCRIPT to OA$LIB then it is working fine
    (ALLIN1/SCRIPT)
    
    So my concLusion is that ALLIN1/SCRIPT is not using the TXL , but is
    directly looking for the file and in the directories that mentioned
    before. Is this correct or am I missing something.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Regards,
    
    Luc. 
 |