Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Hi,

Perhaps if you can give some specific bugs, someone could give some
specific answers?

Are the problems you are seeing specific to the Spanish kit, or are they in
the base (ie English) ALL-IN-1 V3.0 kit too?

To answer your question about how a new version is made:

ALL-IN-1 V3.0 (English) is made from ALL-IN-1 V2.4 (English)

ALL-IN-1 V2.4 (Spanish) is made from ALL-IN-1 V2.4 (English)

ALL-IN-1 V3.0 (Spanish) is made from ALL-IN-1 V3.0 (English)


Scott

    Miguel,
    
    BL123A is the baselevel of ALL-IN-1 that has been shipping to American
    English ansd British English customers for 6 months so apart from
    having the spanish version you have exactly the same kit the customers
    have or in your case will have very soon.
    
    perhaps your concept of "Huge problems" needs to be explained since
    it is generally felt that ALL-IN-1 v3.0 is the best quality release
    for some time (though I though v2.2 was good!).
    
    As scott has said if you explain these 'problems' we may be able to
    help you...
    
    regards,
                                                             
    Andrew.D.Wicks (Atlanta CSC Office Applications District)

    Hi all,

    Firstly thanks for your fast replies.

    And now...Ok no so huge but very annoying problems. The problems I'm
    talking  about are those in the spanish component, and its reappearance is
    what worries me (more  than the dificulty to fix them). 
	
    I'm not saying V3.0 is better or not (I do think it is!) than previous
    version,  I'm only trying to put old bugs out of my sight. In the other
    hand, I didn't know if  we were testing a pre-release version that can be
    modified before reaching customers, so  that's the reason for my first
    question in .0. 

    And here comes one of the bugs I found in V2.3 (Spanish all the time),
    fixed in V2.4 and live again in V3.0 (again, in PBL123A Spanish):

    * In V2.3 was incorrectly translated the "at" word, used to build up any
    remote  user address, for the spanish word "en". Obviously Message Router
    can't deal  with any address like this: user en A1 en node. Found the piece
    of code, fixed ( I don't remember if the "@" or the "at" word was used
    instead), and the problem went away. V2.4 worked fine from the beginning,
    but not my PBL123A 3.0 version. 

    I do know how to fix it (and I did) but I hoped not to face this problem
    never more. Again, Did I miss something to get old bugs wiped out
    forever?.

    Regards,

    Miguel Casta�o

    BTW: ALL-IN-1 V2.2 never was around us here in Spain...

    Unless this was a bug in the base version (which I don't remember it
    being) then this must have been a problem caused when the translation
    into Spanish was done.
    
    V2.4 was translated by lots of separate groups, one in each country,
    but all the V3.0 translations were done in Frankfurt. Most of the old
    translation groups were broken up, and a lot of the people who worked
    in them don't even work for Digital any more. All of this means that
    sometimes bugs that were found in the translated versions weren't
    reported to Frankfurt, and so weren't fixed. In some cases, Frankfurt
    couldn't even find the previous translations to work from.
    
    You should SPR the problem anyway.
    
    Graham

		Hi Graham,
    
    Thanks for the explanation, I feel a little bit uneasy though. 
    If I've not missunderstood I should put the dust off my old 
    documents explaining how and where the translated bugs are.
    I'm going to SPR this particular problem.
    
    Regards,
    
    Miguel Casta�o
    
    PS: I'll be holding my breath in the next release time.
    

    GAP,          
    
    Not only did you mess with the note but I think you'll find that in oh
    july of 1990 you and I (and Susie) were involved in some way or another
    with an attempt to fix this bug in ALL-IN-1 v2.4 for ... it's a small 
    world ... the Spanish LEG!!! 
    
    See note 22 in the old translation notesfile - I guess the THR-xxxxx
    must still be on the database after all.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    

    hello everybody,
    
    at the moment I'm in Atlanta nad don't have access to all the
    translated systems of V3.
    Basically Graham is right, a lot of LEGs are gone (to save money of
    course) and we are now working with agencies to translate the products.
    The first LEG being completely erased was the Spanish group (what a
    coincidence, he?). This is a reason, however it's not an excuse for
    Spanish V2.3 bugs showing up again. Apart from that we managed to get
    our hands on the V2.4 files (can't remember whether kit or CMS) so at
    least it should not have become worse with V3.
    
    I hope that one of the other LC workers will read and answer this.
    In the meantime: yes, please, report your findings!
    
    	Stefan

    Re .10	Hi Stefan
    Re .3
    	Hi Miguel,
    
    	the problem comes from the OALLV.BLI.
    	In the spanish one replace the line
        
    	    OA$GT_EMD_AT_SYMBOL       : $OA_GSLIT (' EN '), ! User AT Node
    	with
            OA$GT_EMD_AT_SYMBOL       : $OA_GSLIT (' AT '), ! User AT Node
    	
    	Bliss OALLV.BLI and replace it in OA$BUILD:OALLV.OLB and
    	OA$BUILD:SITEOALLV.BLI
    	
    	the problem is, that in the BIV OALLV.BLI there should be a comment
    	that the following line shouldn't be translated
    	
    	regards
    		Frank