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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

1408.0. "Restore Application Question" by MLNTSC::MANENTI () Mon Sep 14 1992 16:40

	I tried to restore an application, structured with only
	the SITE area, on my system running ALL-IN-1 v3.0 PBL123A (US).
	
	During the restore operation I specified as "restore method"
	FULL and as "destination" APPLICATION.

	All application elements are then copied into the development area 
	but not into the LIVE area.
	To get the application in the live area I must to move (MLA)
	each single element (because is not possible to select all) 
	specifying, for each, the LIVE location.

	I would like to know if this is the standard method or have I
	made mistake during SA or RA operation.

	Many thanks in advance.

					Bye 

					Graziella
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1408.1The first time is painfulAIMTEC::WICKS_AIt wasn't supposed to end this wayMon Sep 14 1992 16:4811
    Graziella,
    
    No you did it completely correctly that's how it works in v3.0.
    It would be nice if the final step were a little more automated but
    you only take the full pain of specifying all the live locations once
    When you do an Update of your application later it should be much
    easier.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
1408.2CM basic: Don't screw with a live systemSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindMon Sep 14 1992 18:0011
    The logic behind moving elements into the development area only is
    quite simple.  CM never takes any action which may affect a running
    system. Making elements live automatically affects a running system. 
    Remember that a maintainer can restore an application, but it's the
    system manager's job to make sure that everything is OK before they
    allow users to access the application.  So moving things for movement
    to the live area is the correct course of action, after you test the
    elements which have been introduced onto a system.  After all, how do
    you know that there aren't any bugs in the new elements?
    
    Tony
1408.3Site elements = Development & LiveCESARE::EIJSAll in 1 PieceMon Oct 12 1992 12:5423
    
    Hi Graziella,
    
    To add to .2, keep in mind your shipping Site elements.
    
    With Base elements it's pretty straightforward. The elements all reside
    in the Base area.
    However, packaging Site elements allows you to package elements which
    reside in the Development and/or Live area. It is not restricted to
    only Live elements. So, to help a to prevent a mixed environment CM
    restores all Site elements in Development.
    
    Ciao,
    
    	Simon
    
    
    PS From at least one very big site last week we got the feedback that the
    Restore option would be more useable when no user interaction was
    needed. Currently it is with answers to questions, with a possible MLA,
    etc.