| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference | 
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 | 
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE | 
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 4343 | 
| Total number of notes: | 18308 | 
    ALL-IN-1 v.3
    
    In the Getting Started guide for Application programming, it 
    refers you to ABE to access MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX on page 
    4-17 because you are getting the anticipated error:
    
    -OA-E-FLCMOREFRM, .MORE form MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX not found
    %OA-E-FLCCOMERR, Error encountered compiling form CAR_INDEX
    
    However if I select MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX and try and either 
    do a read or copy it, I get "Operation not supported for this 
    element"
    
    I remember from my v.3 training that this form is marked an
    Exception because you can't delete it from the development
    area, but why can't I copy it or read it?
    
    Or am I just a poor misguided fool?
    
    Thanks
    julia CSC
    
    
                                                   
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines | 
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 855.1 | User error? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Thu Jun 11 1992 20:19 | 22 | 
|     Julia,
    
    You are a poor misguided ..... (:==:)
    
    It works for me - I can read it fine using those context-sensitive
    thingies and when I try and copy it I get the message 
    
    Exception routines will be used, do you want to continue? [Y/N]
    
    which  reults of it coming out of OAFORM and into DEVELOP and all that
    sort of stuff.
    
    Are you by any chance on a system that went through many SSB and even
    non-SSb baselevels and some of the baselevel post-install tasks weren't
    done?
    
    Put on trace and see where it's failing or take two aspirin and call
    you local CSC in the morning (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 855.2 | Check CM$ETYPES | FAILTE::LAAHS | An accumulation of Celts | Fri Jun 12 1992 12:14 | 12 | 
|     Julia,
    
    It sounds to me as if the record in CM$ETYPES for
    MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX  FRM  is incorrect.
    
    Use the CM$SM MET option and look at the various READ and PRINT records.
    They should look exactly the same as that for the STANDARD   FRM
    records.
    
    Can you read a non-exception FRM?
    
    Kevin
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| 855.3 | Only a problem in the non-English kit | KERNEL::SMITHERSJ | Living on the culinary edge.... | Mon Jun 15 1992 10:24 | 29 | 
|     Thanks to everyone for their replies.  It looks like this is
    detailed in the Release Notes.
    
    ...
    Customization Management includes definitions for a          
    number of special elements, referred to as exception         
    elements. These are elements where special processing        
    must be invoked whenever they are customized. The            
    ALL-IN-1 kit only includes the definitions for the           
    ENGLISH application area. However, similar definitions       
    are required for each language version installed on a        
    non-English language system.                                 
                                                                     
    Workaround:                       
                  
    o  On a single language (non-English) system:                
       Enter Customization Management and call the entry         
       form CM$ETYPES interactively. Select the exception        
       elements. There are four exception elements:       
    
       CM$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX                                 
       MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX                                    
       SA$MORE$SCROLL$KEYS$INDEX                                 
       FC$GOLD_E                                                 
       
       Copy the element details, changing the area details       
       to the name of the language (for example, BRITISH,        
       GERMAN, or FRENCH.)                        
    
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