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| 795.1 | 3.0 to 3.0 ? | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Sweden, here we come | Thu Jun 04 1992 07:53 | 14 | 
|  |     Hello Angie,
    
    I wouldn't use 2.1 and 2.3 for the account tranfer. To many
    bugs, horrible to recover after failure.
    
    Why not upgrade the 2.1 system to 3.0 and tranfer 
    from 3.0 to 3.0. Safer, faster, less disk space.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
    
    
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| 795.2 | Network?  Xfer is Slow! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Jun 04 1992 08:53 | 11 | 
|  |     Why do tape transfers? I assume the two nodes will be network
    connectable?
    
    But apart from the "opportunities" (I wouldn't dream of using the "B**"
    word about my friends' code :-) ) in Transfer User, if you have any
    sort of amount of users, it wil take a *LONG* time to transfer them.
    
    Also, you end up using a lot more disc space in the Mail shared areas,
    since most of the documents will become unshared.
    
    Graham
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| 795.3 | My 2� | IOSG::TALLETT | Arranging bits for a living... | Thu Jun 04 1992 08:59 | 29 | 
|  |     Hi there!
    
    	First off, I'd try to put them off the 8250's. They are a very
    	breathless machine. I also went from an 11/750 to a 8250 as a
    	customer and I was very dissapointed. I think the 8250/8350's
    	use the XMI bus to access memory for cost savings, which is a real
    	bottleneck. We upgraded our 8250 to an 8350 but it was still a
    	dog. The 8550 is a real monster in comparison, and much better
    	value for money. If you look at the spec, you'll see its very
    	similar to an 8700, but for much less money (and without some of
    	the expansion possibilities - bi deal).
    
    	Anyway, back to ALL-IN-1. Yes, I'd agree with Jan, this sounds more
    	like an upgrade excercise - you should steer clear of Transfer
    	User for doing things like this. I wouldn't even do the V3.0 to
    	V3.0 transfer that Jan suggests, its too much hassle. Easier to
    	just do upgrades and disk copies in this case.
    
    	I'd go for the big-bang approach and do the upgrade over a weekend.
    
    	Do they have computer room space to install the 8xx0 alongside the
    	11/750's? Then they could do a fresh install of V3.0, develop the
    	customisations, then throw away the 8xx0 VMS and V3.0 system and
    	do the upgrade from the 750s. Come to think of it, they could
    	probably do the customisations by renting a 16Mb VAXstation 3100
    	and doing it all standalone - no need for the 8xx0 to start with.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
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| 795.4 | Notesclash, but we seem to have consesus! | IOSG::TALLETT | Arranging bits for a living... | Thu Jun 04 1992 09:05 | 1 | 
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| 795.5 | Be careful with manual copy | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Sweden, here we come | Thu Jun 04 1992 09:27 | 21 | 
|  |     Hello,
    
    Paul,
    
>    	V3.0 transfer that Jan suggests, its too much hassle. Easier to
>    	just do upgrades and disk copies in this case.
    
    I didn't finish Terry Porters hidden but perfect FCS document yet,
    but the impact of copiing ALL-IN-1 3.0 data "manual" from node to node
    or from disk to disk bigger than it was with 2.4.
    
    Correct ?
    
    Graham,
    
    When you are in the field, you tend to adopt customer terminology.
    They report bugs, not opportunities. I will wash my mouth.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
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| 795.6 | I bet Anneka Rice could do it | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Liverpool win the F.A Cup again! | Mon Jun 08 1992 18:42 | 17 | 
|  |     Paul had two suggestions in .3 one of which I hope was a joke (:==:)
    
    With only 48 hours in a standard weekend are there enough assuming
    you go without sleep to
    a) run the PIT and upgrade to 2.3 (and do the manual post-install)
    b) run pre-check and upgrade to 3.0
    on an 11/750?
    
    A fresh sounded the more sensible one and would allow the person doing
    the installing to be fresher for the new week.
    
    of course doing the upgrades separate weekends would be much more
    sensible.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
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