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| 411.1 | Don's being dense again | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Fri Apr 03 1992 18:04 | 28 | 
|  |     Hi Bill,
    I am afraid that I am missing exactly what is going on between the
    HP95LX and ALL-IN-1.  Are you saying that everything works until you go
    to the second screen of a mail message and at that time everything goes
    to HP's scrolled region in a destructive way?
    I am afraid that changing the terminal to have a small screen will not
    work as ALL-IN-1 (I suspect it may really be FMS) requires 80X24. 
    Doing the change after entering ALL-IN-1 will be ineffective as ALL-IN-1
    will just set it right back.
    Was Mr. Brown suggesting <MODE C, by chance?  I am not aware of what
    <MODE F might do besides nothing.  MODE C places you into 'Command'
    mode and may allow you to be a 'partial VT100'.  You can easily try
    this via the US ST menu options.
    Mr. Brown was CLOSE to the development of the Charlotte Package as he
    was in Sales in Charlotte at the time.  He was most certainly NOT one
    of the original developers in any way.  I will refrain from further
    comment but suffice that I hold him in the same level of esteem as
    he deserves.
    Bill, I never had nightmares from you.  If Digital had more people like
    you helping customers we wouldn't be going out of business.
    Keep the faith,
    don
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| 411.2 | MOre explanation, and another possibility? | NOLE2::KIMBEL | Workstations are our business... | Fri Apr 03 1992 22:15 | 27 | 
|  |     Thanks for the kind comments, Don. I hope we aren't both part of a
    vanishing breed! Pendulums have to swing back, unless they fly off the
    pivot.
    
    When the first of the message comes on the screen I am at the top left
    of the first screen. The message scrolls over and down to the bottom
    right quadrant of the screen, and I see the right end of the message in
    the scrolling region, requesting a return or exit.
    
    I press the return key and the next full screen of info flashes by in
    the last line of the screen, resulting in total unintelligibility and a
    headache, if you do it often. Somehow the VT100 emulation in the HP
    can't handle the scrolling region. Seems like I recall a phrase from
    the dark past: "This really sucks dirty swamp water!" (or was that
    sewer water?, Oh well, you get my point... I can't use this!).
    
    Using the ANSI setting, I get the message that the terminal isn't
    identified, and then I shift into hardcopy mode. Which brings up
    another potential... Is there a way to set the hardcopy mode to wrap at
    40?
    
    Clutching at straws...
    
    Bill
    
    
    
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| 411.3 | Straws suck, too | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Sat Apr 04 1992 01:21 | 14 | 
|  |     Bill,
    Are you able to control your environment from DCL?  Another approach
    that you could use would:
    $ SET TERMINAL/WIDTH=40/WRAP/PAGE=16
    $ ALLIN1/TERMINAL=HARD
    I suspect that the /PAGE=16 will have no effect since ALL-IN-1 doesn't
    'page' in HARDCOPY mode.  I tried the above and it does work but, of
    course, the output can be confusing and ugly (sort of like me).
    Hang in there,
    don
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| 411.4 | How about this from ALL-IN-1? | NOLE2::KIMBEL | Workstations are our business... | Mon Apr 06 1992 15:27 | 10 | 
|  |     Don,
    
    Would a UDK like the following work?
    
    UDK to DCL
    $set term/wid=40/wrap/page=16
    $ALLIN1/TERMINAL=HARD/REENTER
    
    BK
    
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| 411.5 | Assuming you're captive you'll need two files | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Mon Apr 06 1992 19:01 | 19 | 
|  |     Bill,
    I am gathering that you are privileged to enter ALL-IN-1 directly and
    that you do not have DCL access? This seems rather rude to me but I
    understand that this approach seems wide spread within Digital systems. 
    I would hope that Mr. Sherman could help make this a bit easier for you
    to accomplish your work.
    If my assumption is correct then you will have to first create a UDP
    which does the following:
    .FU CLEAR
    .FU COMMAND SMALL_SCREEN
    and create SMALL_SCREEN.COM in your ALL-IN-1 directory which contains
    the two lines of DCL you have in .4.
    I hope this helps,
    don
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