| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference | 
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 | 
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE | 
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 4343 | 
| Total number of notes: | 18308 | 
    Hello,
    	We have a customer with a cluster factor of 1 on his disk, but his
    	shared mail area files all appear to have more blocks allocated
    	than needed. An example of size would be 1/3.  Does ALL-IN-1 
    	override the cluster size for the disk and pre-allocate a specific
    	number of blocks?
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines | 
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| 350.1 | Not ALL-IN-1 | IOSG::DAVIS | Mark Davis | Mon Mar 30 1992 12:21 | 13 | 
|     
    
    No,
       The disk cluster size is out of the control of ALL-IN-1. You are 
       probably better off asking this question in another notes file  - such 
       as VMSDEV::VAXNOTES.
    
       There is a minimum cluster size for disks. This is calculated by
       (disk size in blocks)/255*4096. Your disk might have a mimimum of 3 
       anyway.
    
       				Mark
       
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| 350.2 | Only ALL-IN-1 has wrong allocation size | KAOFS::D_STREET | Mon Mar 30 1992 22:45 | 15 | |
|     Hello again,
    	
    	The problem seems to be localized to ALL-IN-1 mail files. Any 
    	files created in another way (EDT, COPY...) get a uesd/alloc
    	with matching values. (as is to be expected with a cluster
    	size of 1) The ALL-IN-1 mail files though, have 1/3 as their
    	used/alloc values. Is there a preallocation aspect to the
    	ALL-IN-1 mail? Since the user cannot modify the files, there
    	is no chance for further extension, therefore no need to allow
    	for the extension in a contiguous manner. I have gone over this
    	with VMS support, and they have determined that there is no 
    	strange activity in respect to the VMS side of things.
    
    
    						Derek.
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| 350.3 | Allocation same as input file | IOSG::DAVIS | Mark Davis | Tue Mar 31 1992 09:00 | 10 | 
|     
    
       I've checked the code on this. The size is preallocated to be the size 
       of the original file. So if the user disks have a cluster size of 3 
       then this will be carried over to the size of the file when it is 
       copied to the shared area. If it's any comfort to you, you are not 
       wasting 66% of your space but only 50% as the file header requires one 
       block. 
    
       				Mark
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