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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

255.0. "TRM not completeing properly ...???" by TAV02::CHAIM (Semper ubi Sub ubi .....) Tue Mar 17 1992 09:27

We have a customer who has been complaining that he is not able to successfully
run TRM. His system is relatively large with an enormous volume of
incoming/outgoing mail. 

Following is the log file from a recent attempt at running TRM. You will notice
that the job ran for about 2 minutes which is not a reasonable amount of time
for such a large system. You can also see that there are several errors (marked
with ***). 

He has also been experiencing very strange behavior with mail counts for users
who are getting in excess of 500 mail messages; the mail counts are NOT
correct. Could there be any connection?

Thanks,

Cb.

================================================================================
LOG file from customer
================================================================================
$SET NOVER
*******************************************************
* YOUR TERMINAL IS:__$1$DUS32:
* DIRECTORY= [ALLIN1] <===> [ALLIN1] 
* THE TIME IS: 11-MAR-1992 05:36:44.07 
*******************************************************


11-MAR-1992 05:36:44.25   User: ALLIN1           Process ID:   204026DF
                          Node: VAX4             Process name: "BATCH_113"

Terminal:           
User Identifier:    [ALLIN1]
Base priority:      4
Default file spec:  EMSB$DISK:[ALLIN1]
%OA-I-LASTLINE, Autoreschedule
%OA-I-LASTLINE, Autorescheduling utility for 18-Mar-1992 02:32 please wait





	MANAGER finished using ALL-IN-1 at 11-Mar-1992 05:37


%SMJACKET-I Commencing batch execution of utility type "TRM" at 11-MAR-1992 05:37:12.72
%SMJACKET-I Invoking common START_BATCH procedure
%START_BATCH-I Performing Start batch job procedures for "TRM"
%START_BATCH-I SYSPRV privilege enabled
1
%START_BATCH-I SENDLOCK.DAT and FETCH_LOCK.DAT locked
%START_BATCH-I running ALLIN1 under account "MANAGER" (/NOINIT/REENTER)
%OA-I-SHUT_NOTIFIED, All users have been notified of the shutdown
%START_BATCH-I performing %START_BATCH exit and cleanup processing
%START_BATCH-I SENDLOCK.DAT and FETCH_LOCK.DAT unlocked
%START_BATCH-I processing completed ok for %START_BATCH
%SMJACKET-I Invoking Utility command file "OA$LIB:OA$SM_FCVR_SCHEDULE.COM"
%OA-I-LASTLINE, 05:38
%OA-I-LASTLINE, 05:38





	MANAGER finished using ALL-IN-1 at 11-Mar-1992 05:38


***Error searching for $1$DUS32:[ALLIN1]SMLOG1.TMP;
***File not found
***Error opening $1$DUS32:[ALLIN1]SMLOG2.TMP; as input
***File not found
%SMJACKET-I Invoking common END_BATCH procedure
%END_BATCH-I Performing End batch job procedures for "TRM"
%OA-I-LASTLINE, 
%OA-I-LASTLINE, 
%END_BATCH-I Deleting old log files "OA$LOG:OA$SM_FCVR_MAIL_AREA.LOG*;*" before date "09-Feb-1992"
%END_BATCH-I performing %END_BATCH exit and cleanup processing
%END_BATCH-I processing completed ok for %END_BATCH
%SMJACKET-I performing %SMJACKET exit and cleanup processing
%SMJACKET-I close lockfiles
%SMJACKET-I processing completed ok for %SMJACKET
  ALLIN1       job terminated at 11-MAR-1992 05:38:38.55

  Accounting information:
  Buffered I/O count:             971         Peak working set size:    2985
  Direct I/O count:              1320         Peak page file size:     13340
  Page faults:                  10696         Mounted volumes:             0
  Charged CPU time:           0 00:00:28.93   Elapsed time:     0 00:01:57.65

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
255.1	version limit set ?	UTRTSC::BOSMAN	We're just sugar mice in the rain	`Tue Mar 17 1992 10:34`	4
	Do you have a version limit set on the directory where the log-files reside? Sjaak.
255.2	No Version Limits set on directory..	TAV02::CHAIM	Semper ubi Sub ubi .....	`Tue Mar 17 1992 13:29`	7
	Re: .1 There are no version limits set on this directory. Thanks, Cb.
255.3	Check A1SUB.LOG files	IOSG::CHAPLIN	Andy Chaplin	`Tue Mar 24 1992 10:01`	6
	It looks like the FCVR executable (which is run from the Manager's ALL-IN-1 sub-process) is either exiting immediately or not running at all. Check the A1SUB.LOG file from the run in Manager's ALL-IN-1 sub-directory - it will hopefully contain the error. Andy
255.4	Check list for Housekeeping jobs	GIDDAY::SETHI	Man from Downunder	`Tue Mar 24 1992 23:40`	29
	G'day Cb, >*Error searching for $1$DUS32:[ALLIN1]SMLOG1.TMP; >File not found >Error opening $1$DUS32:[ALLIN1]SMLOG2.TMP; as input >*File not found I would check the directory spec. for the ALL-IN-1 managers account. It should be [ALLIN1.MGR] and I am taking a guess here that this could be the problem. Check to see if other Housekeeping procedures are failing with directory spec. problems. Also ask the customer if they have made changes to the various elements for the TRM Housekeeping procedures. More often than not it's the case. Don't take it at face value that they have not changed anything because it can waste time as I am finding out. So I would do the following :-) 1. Check to see if the customer has made changes to the TRM elements 2. Check if other Housekeeping procedures are failing 3. Check the directory spec for the ALL-IN-1's managers account 4. If the worse comes to the worse trace the problem with set verify Good Luck Sunil
255.5	Not completely true ...	UTRTSC::BOSMAN	We're just sugar mice in the rain	`Wed Mar 25 1992 09:07`	8
	� I would check the directory spec. for the ALL-IN-1 managers account. � It should be [ALLIN1.MGR] and I am taking a guess here that this could � be the problem. Not completely true, the manager's directory is in his PROFIL and A1CONFIG (base record). It worked for me with different values. Sjaak.
255.6	About the SMLOG.TMP files	IOSG::CHAPLIN	Andy Chaplin	`Wed Mar 25 1992 18:40`	9
	FCVR will create the SMLOG%.TMP temporary files in the ALLIN1 account VMS login directory, unless the symbol OA$FCVR_FILES exists in the system PST. It creates a logical OA$FCVR_FILES to reference them. The fact that the schedule job can't find them is likely to be because the FCVR executable didn't/couldn't create them. The A1SUB.LOG file should give some more information. Andy
255.7	A1$SUB.LOG shows OA$SM_FCVR is missing ...	TAV02::CHAIM	Semper ubi Sub ubi .....	`Thu Apr 02 1992 09:26`	22
	I think we got a hint.... A1$SUB.LOG shows an error in NOT finding OA$LIB:OA$SM_FCVR This is a V2.3 system with patches including the FCVR patch. In OA$lIB_SHARE he indeed does NOT have a file OA$SM_FCVR.EXE but rather OA$SM_FCVR.EXE_DUMMY. Looking in OA$SM_FCVR_SCHEDULE.COM shows a $RUN OA$LIB:OA$SM_FCVR (this is the new patch version - the non-patched version had four run commands for each of the OA$SM_FCVR_PHASEx.EXEs) I reread the release notes for this patch and see that such a file is provided. I could NOT find any instruction to rename this file or whatever. At this stage what should he do? Thanks, Cb.
255.8	Request for replies ...	TAV02::CHAIM	Semper ubi Sub ubi .....	`Wed Apr 08 1992 12:40`	6
	I know that issues in NOTES carry no commitment for replies, but I hope that someone can please help me help OUR customer. Thanks, Cb.
255.9		IOSG::MAURICE	IOSG ain't a place to raise a kid	`Wed Apr 08 1992 17:59`	12
	Sorry that your note did not get a reply. I've no idea where the file OA$SM_FCVR.EXE_DUMMY came from, gremlins I suppose. I suggest you get the real .EXE off the patch kit and put it where it's supposed to go which is OA$LIB_SHARE. There was a problem with K536 whereby it put it in OA$LIB, which would mean OA$SITE_LIB_LLV. Is it in there by any chance? If it is then move it to oa$lib_share. Cheers Stuart
255.10	Will the REAL image please stand up ...	TAV02::CHAIM	Semper ubi Sub ubi .....	`Thu Apr 09 1992 06:13`	5
	Could someone post the SIZE and image I.D. for the real image? Thanks, Cb.
255.11	K504 should have done LINK ...	TAV02::CHAIM	Semper ubi Sub ubi .....	`Thu Apr 09 1992 08:23`	17
	I just read completely through the release notes for the TURBO FCVR patch (K504). In it there is a specific referrence that a file oa$sm_fcvr.exe_dummy IS supplied. I also looked through the patch kit itself and there is a command file to perform a LINK of the real image. According to what I can see, this is done during a preprocess phase. HOWEVER, the example installation in the appendix of the release notes does NOT seem to indicate that this is done. I myself installed the patch about a year and a half ago. I do not recall receiving any errors during the installation. Can anyone shed more light... Thanks, Cb.
255.12		IOSG::MAURICE	IOSG ain't a place to raise a kid	`Thu Apr 09 1992 13:56`	12
	Hi, I think K504 is dead now (RIP). I recommend that you get K536 and install that. After installation you have to fix the K536 bug where it puts the .exe in the wrong directory (see .-3). I don't have access to K504 so I'm afraid I cannot answer .10, nor know why the link seems to have failed. Cheers Stuart