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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1897.0. "VMS windows across Net" by WPOMM2::ZAMBOTTI () Tue Dec 12 1989 02:00

    Hello out there,
    
    After all has been said and done how do I copy a note from another
    conference into, say, this conference.  I just tried and wiped out my
    note and now I have to re-type it.
    
    
    Thought I would try something simple for a change but guest what. 
    Dumbo here got it wrong.  I'm trying to run notes across the network
    but I cant establish a window connection.  Heres what I do.
    
    $ set host wpomm2      (currently I'm situated on "wpomm1")
    Username:ZAMBOTTI
    Password:########
    $ set display/create/node=wpomm1
    %SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, nosuch device available
    $
    
    This is how I read it from manual.  Two simple commands "set host" and
    "set display" but it doesn't seem to work for me.
    
    I have a VAXstation 3100 running DECwindows and have setup in my
    session manager "wpomm2::*" as an authorized node::user.
    
    The "wpomm2::" node does not have DECwindows running but this has not
    stopped other VS3100 in the building from doing what I have just failed
    at.
    
    One user has set up an entry in the FileView Application menu to be :
    
    	"Notes wpomm2"
    
    And the DCL command that is invoked is :
    
    	"open /read temp wpomm2"fleming"::"128="
    
    This fires up an object on the "wpomm2::" node which looks like this :
    
    	$ if f$trlnlnm ("SYS$NET") .nes. ""
    	$ then
    	$	node = f$element (0, ":", f$trnlnm ("SYS$NET"))
    	$	set display /node='node'::0 /create
    	$	def /user sys$input nl:
    	$	notes
    	$ endif
    	$ exit
    
    When "Notes wpomm2" is selected this fires up notes in a window on his
    work station using notes on the host (wpomm2) system.  This executes a
    full decwindows graphic version of notes I may add.
    
    I have my notes on the same system as well but when I set up the
    application menu to be the same as his (see above) it doesn't work.
    
    I can run the text based notes across the net though.  But I would like
    the graphics version like everyone else.
    
    What is wrong with my Vaxstation or is there something else I have to
    setup on the other node before I can display graphics.
    
    Thanks for any help.
    
    Walter Zambotti

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1897.1	still need decw$startup.com	GOLLY::MILLER	I need 'Deeper Understanding'	`Tue Dec 12 1989 05:02`	15
	re: <<< Note 1897.0 by WPOMM2::ZAMBOTTI >>> -< VMS windows across Net >- Regardless of whether "wpomm2" is a workstation or not, it still needs to run @SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP to setup all of the logicals, images, etc. for DECwindows client execution. If "wpomm2" is a workstation, but for some reason you don't wanna run the display server (i.e. just run DECwindows clients), then run "@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP LIBS" at system startup (I'm pretty sure this argument is right). Regards, == ken miller ==
1897.2	But every one in the office can!	WPOMM2::ZAMBOTTI		`Wed Dec 13 1989 02:02`	20
	I cant figure that Ken because every one else in the office seems to be able to run "notes" on wpomm2:: and have the output display graphically on their VAXstations. Its only my VAXstation that doesn't work! In fact I can even display "notes" graphically on my VAXstation as long as I access "notes" on the wpomm2 in someone elses account that have already got "notes" running remotely. Its just mine VAXstation with my "notes". Everyone elses VAXstation is fine and everyone elses "notes" are fine. Only the combination of my station and notes dont work. And at the moment our network specialist is away and unreachable. Because he did the setup for everyone else and it works, believe me. Its just that since he is going to be away for a couple of weeks and my station just arrived I thought I would try and get it going. Oh well ! Thanks anyway. Walter
1897.3	Oops...	GOLLY::MILLER	I need 'Deeper Understanding'	`Wed Dec 13 1989 07:56`	13
	<<< Note 1897.2 by WPOMM2::ZAMBOTTI >>> -< But every one in the office can! >- re: .-1 Sorry...My misunderstanding. It's just that than "No such device available" is usually indicative of not running DECW$STARTUP. Just a WAG: Have you (or anyone in sylogin) defined a symbol "notes" to be "notes/nodecwindows"? Regards, == ken miller ==
1897.4	Check for a WSA0: device	34339::BRYSON		`Wed Dec 13 1989 19:26`	14
	Ken sounds like he is right. Usually if you do a SET DISPLAY/CREATE and get a "No such device available", it means that there is no template device WSA0:. This device is created by DECW$STARTLIBS.COM when it connects the WSDRIVER. Do a SHOW DEVICE WS on the system where you are trying to run the notes image and see if WSA0: exists. If the WSA0: device does not exist, do exactly what Ken said and perform the $@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP LIBS command. The only other time that I have seen the "No such device available", is when a SET DISPLAY has been executed WITHOUT the /CREATE qualifier and there is not a DECW$DISPLAY and WSA device associated with this job. I can't explain why the other's notes work. David
1897.5	You were all correct !	WPOMM2::ZAMBOTTI		`Thu Dec 28 1989 02:42`	15
	Sorry guys, The @decw$startup entry was missing from the site specific startup and apparently it had been working all along from someone who had manually started decwindows. This continued quite perfectly for some months until the system required to be rebooted, coinsedently when the person who had set all this up was away on training. Diabolical. thanks, Walter.