| Title: | Topics of Interest to Women | 
| Notice: | V3 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open. | 
| Moderator: | REGENT::BROOMHEAD | 
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1986 | 
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 30 1995 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 1078 | 
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    G'Day,
    
    	Yesterday was DECday at the Australian chapter of DECworld '90.  A
    lot of the Sydney employees were taken by coach to Canberra for the
    day.  Apart from seeing all the great products actually doing something
    worthwhile (instead of running diags in the repair centre) it was good
    to see a lot of women who knew a lot about what we sell.
    
    	From this notesfile I have learned that in the US there are many
    women making their way in the technical side of things but over here in
    Oz I know of probably only three or four female technical staff!  It
    really is a temendously male dominated arena in Australia.  I walked
    over to a display of our new FDDI Optic Fibre Network products and was
    greeted by a very nice American lady who would have put a lot of our
    network experts to shame.  During the course of the day, I spoke with
    many technically oriented women but unfortunately NONE of them were
    Australian - they were all from the US.
    
    	This is not just a DEC problem either.  All of the trade shows that
    I see are usually put on entirely by Australian companies without
    bringing in loads of people from overseas and the only women you see at
    those displays are there to attract people with what they are/aren't
    wearing.
    
    	It seems that Australia has a long way to go before we see a more
    equitable mix of males/females in technical roles :-(.
    
    David. (Becoming more feminist as the days go by)
      
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| 318.1 | Forgot a bit | GIDDAY::WALES | David from Down-under | Thu Aug 23 1990 02:28 | 8 | 
|     G'Day Again,
    
    	Forgot to say that I hope I didn't miss any American =wn=ers at
    DECworld.  I didn't see any familiar names (except for one male) so I
    don't think so.  Were any of you here??
    
    David.
    
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| 318.2 | ASDS::BARLOW | Thu Aug 23 1990 09:23 | 20 | ||
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    David,
    
    I was the technical backup person at 3 booths for DecWorld in Boston
    and there were a couple of other technical women there too.  Yes, it is
    nice to see things changing a bit.  When I was introduced as one of the
    engineers on the product, most people still dropped their jaws and
    stared at me.  Only one person, (male), actually wouldn't listen to me. 
    (But listened quite well when my male counterpart came out of the
    bathroom.  The man actually physically blocked me out of the
    conversation.)  But, still things are not too bad here in the US.  2
    years ago, I was at Dexpo West, in the same position, and I hardly got
    any respect.  Maybe if more people have attitudes like yours, things
    will change over there!  
    
    (By the way, the product that I worked on is right next to the FDDI
    stuff.  Dec MCC for Ultrix.  A great SNMP product for Ultrix!)
    
    Rachael
    
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| 318.3 | Thank you | AKO569::JOY | Get a life! | Thu Sep 13 1990 12:50 | 11 | 
|     David,
       Thank you for the compliment. I'm the "nice American lady at the
    FDDI booth". I''m usually just a read-only womannoter but wanted to
    thank you for your comments. You're right though, I've been to
    Australia 3 times (I work in GIA Area tech support for SWS) and I don't
    believe I've met any women at a customer or even within DEC who would
    be consider "Technical". It really is strange to see how alike
    Australia can be to the U.S. in some ways and so different in others.
    
    Debbie
     
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| 318.4 | Maybe =wn= badges should be worn at DECshows | GIDDAY::WALES | David from Down-under | Thu Sep 13 1990 20:51 | 12 | 
|     G'Day,
    
    	Another R/O noter comes out of the woodwork.  If I'd have known you
    were from here I would have chatted to you even more.  Your knowledge
    of FDDI eclipsed mine by 1000% (I'm just hanging in there with
    Ethernet) but at least I know a bit more about it now.
    
    	You are the first non-Australian =wn=er that I have met and I
    didn't even know it :-(.
    
    David.
    
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| 318.5 | Maybe next time | AKO569::JOY | Get a life! | Fri Sep 14 1990 11:09 | 6 | 
|     David,
       I have to admit that I only read =wn= occasionally. I tend to be at
    most network events in Oz so look for me next time.
    
    Debbie
    
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| 318.6 | Please let us know if you're visiting | GIDDAY::WALES | David from Down-under | Sun Sep 16 1990 08:08 | 14 | 
|     G'Day,
    
    	I hope I (and any other Aussie noters) can catch up with you next
    time you visit.  Unfortunately I don't get to go to many of the DEC
    shows but I will keep my eyes open.  If it's on in Sydney then there is
    a much better chance of being able to go.
    
    	Might I also suggest that anybody visiting like this place a note
    in the 'Visits From Afar' note.  Realising that people were here after
    they've gone home is no good!
    
    David.
    
    
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