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| 162.1 | | PROXY::SCHMIDT | Thinking globally, acting locally! | Tue May 29 1990 11:57 | 19 |
| So that we all go to the *PRIMARY* and general elections armed
with the facts, here's *MY* (rather limited) understanding of the
positions of some of the candidates:
For governor:
Steven Pierce (R) ------ Known opponent of choice
William Weld (R) ------- Proponent
Evelyn Murphy (D) ------ Proponent
Frank Bellotti (D) ----- Has changed mind -- now "proponent"
Silbur (D) ------------- ??
Please feel free to add or correct as required.
Atlant
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| 162.2 | Might as well put it in here too.. | FAIRWY::KINGR | New_Kids_On_The_Block=Pimple_Music! | Tue May 29 1990 12:02 | 13 |
| Just great... another person who will vote on the subject of choice
only... what about the other issues? Or do they even count?
Just like here in Mass. Murphy is one of the biggest village idiots
ever to hold office here in Mass.. But she is pro-choice so that makes
here the *BEST* person for Guv... WHat the HELL has she done while
being Lt. Guv.. NOTHING SQUAT!! Now look at the state and its
finacial mess.. and the Mass voters want the same crap to continue?
REK
The voters better start looking at all the issues and not just the
choice issue.....
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| 162.3 | | DZIGN::STHILAIRE | she rescues him right back | Tue May 29 1990 12:21 | 6 |
| re .2, that's easy for you to say, since you're not a single female.
If you were control over your own body would be a very important
issue.
Lorna
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| 162.4 | | CADSE::MACKIN | It has our data and won't give it back! | Tue May 29 1990 12:29 | 2 |
| Silber (D) -- anti-choice
Flood (D) -- anti-choice
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| 162.5 | | FAIRWY::KINGR | Hospital called, your brain is ready!!!! | Tue May 29 1990 12:31 | 9 |
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Sorry Lorna, but I don't think that choice is the ONLY issue..
Look at the state ECO situation... RUnning ONLY on a choice platform
is not hte person I want running this state. Bush is anti-choice and I
don't see where too much has changed....
REK
To whom it may concern I am PRO-CHOICE!
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| 162.6 | | DZIGN::STHILAIRE | she rescues him right back | Tue May 29 1990 12:36 | 8 |
| re .5, it isn't the only issue, but the point is, regardless of
what the other issues are, I am never going to vote for a person
who anti-choice. Besides, this topic is about taking action for
choice. It isn't a discussion of all the political issues that
exist in the state.
Lorna
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| 162.7 | | CADSE::MACKIN | It has our data and won't give it back! | Tue May 29 1990 12:40 | 10 |
| Its all a matter of perspective: some people thing that fiscal policy
is the only thing they are interested in when voting. Some people only
vote for candidates who are for their particular "me" issues. Some
people vote only for those candidates who are anti-gun control (based
on bumper stickers prevalent during the last presidential campaign).
Personally, I'd love to have a balance of issues but sometimes you have
to go with the candidate that votes the way you want on that important
issue. So, on this particular one, if you don't vote as strongly as I
think you should on it, I won't vote for you. Simple.
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| 162.8 | clarification | AV8OR::TATISTCHEFF | Lee T | Tue May 29 1990 13:14 | 12 |
| re murphy doing squat:
my understanding is that dukakis never wanted her as a running mate
(she was foisted on him by the party), so now that he's stuck with her
he has declined to delegate any responsibilities to her.
ie. our constitution give the lt governor ZERO responsibilities beyond
that of taking office if the governor is incapacitated; any duties the
lt gov has are directly assigned by the gov. if the gov doesn't
like/trust the lt, then the lt's hands are tied.
lt
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| 162.9 | | FAIRWY::KINGR | Hospital called, your brain is ready!!!! | Tue May 29 1990 13:35 | 6 |
| I guess my point is that she stated that her "record" as Lt. Gov
was the best in the history of Mass......
REK
Her speaks for herself!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 162.10 | one, two, three,four... ten | VAXWRK::SKALTSIS | Deb | Tue May 29 1990 18:26 | 7 |
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Uh, the term is "pro-life", not "anti-choice" or "Known opponent of
choice", unless of course there is some intent in your replies to inflame
those that don't happen agree with your stand on the issue, or don't see the
issue as an issue of choice but rather one of life.
Deb
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| 162.11 | <*** Moderator Question ***> | RANGER::TARBET | Haud awa fae me, Wullie | Tue May 29 1990 20:46 | 4 |
| Thanks Deb, you took the words from my mouth.
Is there some cogent reason why these shouldn't be moved to the
"Action" string? Unless there is, we'll move them tomorrow.
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| 162.12 | | PROXY::SCHMIDT | Thinking globally, acting locally! | Tue May 29 1990 22:55 | 7 |
| These deserve to stay as separate strings because they are issues
that rightly concern only those directly, locally involved. That's
why I write the titles the way I did. Anyone not from NH, for example,
can easily <NEXT_UNSEEN> that string, and the same thing for the
MA string.
Atlant
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| 162.13 | | PROXY::SCHMIDT | Thinking globally, acting locally! | Tue May 29 1990 23:02 | 11 |
| Regarding "PRO-LIFE" versus "being an opponent of choice"...
At least in the context of NH, the issue is very clearly drawn
by the flavor of the votes. We have had several bills that of-
ferred women choice. If (the metaphorical) you were opposed to
those bills, that is, you voted "NAY", I call you an opponent.
If you are supportive of those bills, that is, you voted "YEA",
then I call you a proponent, following the logical sense taken
by the bills.
Atlant
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| 162.14 | | OXNARD::HAYNES | Charles Haynes | Wed May 30 1990 03:35 | 15 |
| Re: .2
> Just great... another person who will vote on the subject of choice
> only... what about the other issues? Or do they even count?
How did you get to this conclusion? ONE of the things I'm interested in
is a candidate's position on this issue. Are you trying to say that
because the issues are complex we shouldn't discuss any of them, or
that we must always discuss all of them at the same time, or that
because I choose to discuss one here and now that I believe that the
others are unimportant or less important? Ridiculous.
Typical derailing tactics. Go away, we're wise to it.
-- Charles
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| 162.15 | ***co-moderator reminder/request*** | LYRIC::BOBBITT | we washed our hearts with laughter | Wed May 30 1990 08:42 | 16 |
|
Please be aware that, in this notesfile, we encourage you to use the
following two terms for the two factions which are polarized on the
topic of abortion:
Pro-life
Pro-choice
These are the labels that the factions tend to use for themselves, and
since it is such a highly charged and polarized topic, please use the
above labels to refer to the two factions to reduce friction.
Thank you.
-Jody
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| 162.16 | News... | PROXY::SCHMIDT | Thinking globally, acting locally! | Tue Jun 12 1990 11:11 | 8 |
| Today, debate will continue on the proposed amendment to the
Massachusetts state constitution that will guarantee access to
abortion. Last night, time ran out on the debate. If the
amendment is accepted by these folks, it will be put on the
ballot as a "referendum" question. You may want to make your
views known to your state reps *TODAY* .
Atlant
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| 162.17 | | PROXY::SCHMIDT | Thinking globally, acting locally! | Wed Jun 13 1990 10:55 | 5 |
| Rather than discuss the proposed amendment further, the Massachusetts
Constitutional Convention recessed for about two weeks. They'll take
up the discussion again when they come back into session.
Atlant
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