Conference turris::womannotes-v2

    
    	It's for the best that Eric is unwilling to discuss his views
    	about this conference, since it would obviously be a colossal 
    	waste of time and resources to try to counter such appalling 
    	ignorance in a human lifetime.
    
    	For those of us who had already presumed that Eric's primary
    	role in this conference would be to lay down the law to a group
    	of women about "what sexism is" and "what sexism is not" (along
    	with "what we should do about it,") our suspicions have been
    	nicely confirmed.
    
    	As many of us know, though...
    
    			edp is wrong.  Dead wrong.

    
    To all,
    
    Why the hell don't you all ignore him????
    
    Bo

.3>    Why the hell don't you all ignore him????

.4>	Does that really seem like a good solution?
    
    In fact, I think many people make themselves very easy to ignore.
    And it's a good solution because it permits one to get on with one's
    work and it permits one to keep one's blood pressure in proper ranges.
    As for whom to ignore and whom to pay attention to, that is a totally
    personal decision completely individually customizable.
    
    ed

    Yes, it does seem like a good solution.  
    
    Dondi

    Not if you saw the basenote.  The topic was me.  Now I thought about
    letting it run, (without my input), but it looked like it was looking
    for trouble and I'm sure it would have found it.  We, (the basenote
    author and I), have no "differences" to air out.  I've referred him to
    the moderators.  I told him if they say he can run a topic to discuss a 
    noter, then go ahead and post it.  This is between them and him. 
    Personally, I'd love to see it run and what it flushes out.  But because
    the tone seemed confrontational and the intent seemed to divide and
    polarize the noters, (and the subject was me!), I figured it'd better
    past the first test of "legality" before the sh*t hit the fan.  ;-)   

    Re .7:
    
    > The topic was me.
    
    Correction:  The topic of one of the four parts of the note was Sandy
    Ciccolini's note 1019.21 and the statements Sandy has made.
    
    
    				-- edp

    
    	As I recall, the four parts had titles (including these three, to
    	the best of my recollection):
    
    			What Sexism Is
    
    			What Sexism Is Not
    
    			Sandy Ciccolini
    
    
    	The part dedicated to Sandy simply listed her name as the title.
    	(I do remember that much quite specifically.)  It wasn't titled
    	as being addressed *to* Sandy or her note.  It was ABOUT Sandy 
    	(using third person singular) and about statements she's made.
    

Found an interesting juxtaposition of aphorisms in one of my fortune
cookie files:

	Who can protest and does not, in an accomplice in the act.
				-- Talmud (Sabbath, 54 b.)

	Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true
	place for a just man is also a prison.
				-- Thoreau

	Things do not change; we change.
				-- Thoreau

	If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of
	doing you good, you should run for your life.
				-- Thoreau

	If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is
	because he hears a different drummer.  Let him step to the music
	which he hears, however measured or far away.
				-- Thoreau

	Singularity in the right hath ruined many; happy those who
	are convinced of the general opinion.
				-- Benjamin Franklin

	I know of no country in which there is so little independence
	of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America.
				-- de Tocqueville

	Hain't we got all the fools in town on our side?  And hain't that
	a big enough majority in any town?
				-- Mark Twain.  "Huckleberry Finn"

	An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called
	an idea at all.
				-- Oscar Wilde

	A thing is not necessarily true because a man dies for it.
				-- Oscar Wilde.

	Tell the truth, and so puzzle and confound your adversaries.
				-- Sir Henry Wotton (1568-1639)

This is not to say that any of the above are relevant to anything.

Martin.

				

    
    
    	Martin,
    
    	What great cookies! Best I've had since I swore off chocolate?!
    
    						kim *8^}