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Conference turris::womannotes-v1

Title:	ARCHIVE-- Topics of Interest to Women, Volume 1 --ARCHIVE
Notice:	V1 is closed. TURRIS::WOMANNOTES-V5 is open.
Moderator:	REGENT::BROOMHEAD

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 30 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	873
Total number of notes:	22329

674.0. "CHILDREN" by DIXIE1::HILLIARD (MS ENVIRONMENT) Tue Jan 26 1988 15:05

		    CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IT IS HAPPENING
			RIGHT NOW AS YOU READ THIS
			       YOU CAN HELP

You would think that people who risked careers, as doctors and lawyers, to 
protect children from being abused would be made men and women of the year. 
You might even think that ordinary mothers and fathers, and many single 
individuals, that risked being criminally charged and possible imprisonment, 
would be awarded good citizens awards for trying to protect children from 
repeated, documented abuse by abusers that the children identified. No, 
these people may be prosecuted by the same legal system that has so 
miserably failed the children; Crissy Foxworth, 5 1/2 years old, whose mother 
died in hiding, was turned over, despite all her mother's efforts,to the very 
person who she has repeatedly identified as her abuser, Tim Foxworth, her 
father.  Katy and Adam Newsom, whose mother spent 43 days in jail to protect 
her children from the person they identified as their abuser,Gene Newsom, 
their father, then turned over Katy, 3 1/2 years old, and Adam, 2 1/2 
years old,to their accused abuser.

We the citizens of the United States must take action that justice is not 
blind.  The children will pay with their innocence that can never be 
returned.  The abusers will take it as a go ahead for the abuse to continue 
and it will.  We must let our outrage be known throughout the nation.  The 
people who have tried to protect these children must now have our support 
for their risk and selfless actions.

How many of you have heard comments after a child has been beaten to death, 
by people interviewed, "I thought there might be a problem " or " Something 
just wasn't right". Those people aided in the death of that child because 
they failed to act.  Don't let that be you.

Stand up today and fight for the children who cannot fight for themselves.
Dorrie Singley is dead, but her daughter, Crissy Foxworth, is alive and needs 
your help.  Katy and Adam also need your help.

			   *****HOW TO FIGHT*****

				***JOIN***
MARC, Mothers Against Raping Children
		       ***CALL or SEND DONATIONS***
MARC          601-896-6453    601-864-0047
P.O. BOX 1165
GULFPORT, MS  39501

SANCTUARY
P.O. BOX 50476
NEW ORLEANS, LA.  70150-0476
		   ********WRITE YOUR DEMANDS TO********
YOUR   CONGRESSMEN
       GOVERNOR
       ATTORNEY GENERAL

IN MISSISSIPPI: 

RAY MABUS, GOVERNOR
P.O. BOX 956 
JACKSON, MS  39205

MIKE MOORE, ATTORNEY GENERAL
P.O. BOX 998
PASCAGOULA, MS  39567

GEORGE PHILLIPS            PH-601-490-4490
U.S. ATTORNEY FOR SOUTH MISS.
P.O. BOX 2091
JACKSON, MS  39205

		*************DEMAND************

*The allegations against Tim Foxworth and Gene Newsom be investigated.
*The children be placed in a safe place during investigation.
*The medical evidence be reviewed.
*The continued identification of the abuser by the children be seriously 
 considered.
*That all this be made public.
*That the evidence and allegations be heard by a judge who is not bias or 
 prejudice, and a jury.
*That charges of child molestation be filed against the accused sexual abusers 
 of Katy and Adam Newsom, also against the sexual abuser of Crissy Foxworth.
*That the persecution and possible prosecution of the individuals that tried 
 so desperately to protect the children be stopped immediately.
*That legislation be written and passed to protect children from this and 
 other crimes.

START FIGHTING TODAY,AND NEVER STOP AS LONG AS ONE CHILD NEEDS YOUR HELP.
IF YOU THINK A CHILD IS BEING ABUSED, DO SOMETHING.
THE PROBLEM WON'T GO AWAY.. AND THE CHILDREN CONTINUE TO PAY.




I am taking this opertunity to ask for each of your help in this.  If you 
will write a letter or copy this and pass it out at your office.  It will 
only stop if we all do something.  Thank you.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
674.1	How about a form letter to insert as a reply?	PARITY::SMITH	Penny Smith, TWO/B5, 247-2203	`Tue Jan 26 1988 16:37`	11
	re .0 You might consider creating a form letter and posting it in here, more to encourage folks to do the mailing! (greater chance at having bigger success than if left to each person's own creation/procrastination, etc. efforts) I personally would feel better about using a form letter (or modifying a form letter) than I would about starting my own from scratch on this issue. Penny
674.2	Perhaps this belongs in Parents...	SSDEVO::YOUNGER	Calm down, it's only 1's and 0's	`Thu Jan 28 1988 10:26`	24
	I've been meaning to bring this up here. There is a topic being discussed on Usenet about laws involving treatment of children. Is anyone aware that Indiana has a law against HUGGING anyone between the ages of 12 & 16? That means that if you take your child to a sporting event, and he/she does well, you can't hug the child to say "Good job. I'm proud of you." without those in authority (teachers, administrators) legally having to report you to the child abuse authorities? We are not talking about anything remotely sexual here - just ordinary parental loving of children. California has a similar law. Apparently someone has been charged with hugging his 3 year old stepchild. The judge ruled that that was not rape (since when is hugging anyone rape?). There are those trying to get the judge thrown off the bench for her decision in this case. I am as much for laws protecting children from abuse as anyone - especially as a former abused child. But these type of laws are taking it 5 steps too far. Elizabeth
674.3	10! steps too far!	VINO::EVANS		`Thu Jan 28 1988 12:08`	9
	An EXCELLENT book: _TOUCHING_ by Ashley Montagu Good background on our"no-touch" society and some of the ramifications thereof... --DE
674.4	Hugging Child	CSC32::JOHNS	Yes, I am still pregnant :-)	`Thu Jan 28 1988 16:49`	7
	Hmmm... Elizabeth, are you sure that the person on trial was clothed at the time of hugging the 3-year-old stepchild? Seems like there must be something more to this. Carol
674.5	Nudist <> bad parent	SSDEVO::YOUNGER	Calm down, it's only 1's and 0's	`Fri Jan 29 1988 09:23`	12
	Re .4 No. The family are nudists. Still, there is no claim by anyone (including the child) that the child has been molested. The point here is that he is not being charged with child molesting. He is being charged with hugging her. This type of law could be used against any unpopular group, be that nudist, gay, black, or Methodist, to take their children away. Elizabeth
674.6		BEES::PARE	What a long, strange trip its been	`Fri Jan 29 1988 17:03`	5
	Are you aware of the legal definition of Assault and Battery? Assault means that you made someone "afraid" that you would hurt them and Battery means that you "touched someone without their permission". That is how the laws have always read and it doesn't just apply to children either.
674.7	Not the same before child is able to decide	SSDEVO::YOUNGER	Calm down, it's only 1's and 0's	`Fri Jan 29 1988 19:10`	17
	Re .6 Does that mean that I need to get permission from a newborn baby in order to change his/her diaper? Do I need to get permission from a 2 year-old to put a coat on them before taking them out in 0 degree weather? Can a doctor be taken to court for giving an unwanted (by the child) vaccination shot? I somehow don't think the laws quite apply the same to young children, although it would probably be criminal to do anything to a child without the parent's permission (unless clearly necissary to the child's survival). Elizabeth
674.8	sometimes it does no good	YODA::BARANSKI	Im here for an argument, not Abuse!	`Sat Jan 30 1988 00:50`	20
	RE: .0 "That the persecution and possible prosecution of the individuals that tried so desperately to protect the children be stopped immediately." If the other steps to safeguard the children were/are available, it is not necessary for a parent to "kidnap" the children. I would not support parents hiding children from their spouses under any circumstances. RE: .2 I feel that is rediculous... (no hugging allowed) RE: .6 That is correct about "Assault & Battery", yet sometimes, for a wide variety of reasons it is difficult to get anything to result from a complaint of assault and battery. Jim.
674.9	CORECT ADDRESS FOR MARC	ODIXIE::HILLIARD	MS ENVIRONMENT	`Mon Feb 01 1988 09:29`	15
	THE NEW ADDRESS FOR MARC IS MARC P. O. BOX 3282 GULFPORT, MS 39505 TELP. 601 831 4533 THIS IS REAL AND IS HAPPING RIGHT NOW. IF WE ALL SAY HOW TERIBLE IT IS AND DO NOT ACT IT WILL GO ON. DON'T EXPECT SOME ONE ELSE TO CARRY OUT YOUR PART IT HAS TO BE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. MARC IS UNDER A GREAT DEAL OF PRESOUR FROM THE LAW IN MISSISSIPPI DO TO THERE IGNORANCE. WE MUST COME OUT IN SUPPORT AND FORM OUR OWN GROUPS AND HELP MISSISSIPPI GROUP WITH THESE TWO ON GOING CASES.
674.10	A difficult balance	CHEFS::MANSFIELD		`Tue Feb 02 1988 06:31`	19
	It's not always that simple to know what to do in the case of suspected child abuse. There has been quite a fuss recently about two Paediatricians who had used contraversial technniques to diagnose sexual abuse in chhildren. I cant remember the number of kids that had been taken from their parents into care, but it was considerably more than usual for an area. Many of them were later returned to their parents. Can you imagine what it must be like to be wrongfully accused of molesting your child ? It must be awful. In one case I remember hearing that the mother woyuld not let the father near the children as she believed him guilty. What if he wasn;t ? Yes I think it is important to regard this subject seriously, but this seemed to be a real witch hunt. The matter was brought to light by the press and has been reviewde (no conclusions drawn yet ) and the two paediatricians involved moved on to other duties. Saraha.
674.11	Law to save or not save a child	DIXIE1::HILLIARD	MS ENVIRONMENT	`Thu Feb 04 1988 09:48`	31
	Yes we must be carefull that laws are not passed to prevint parents from being loving parents. But do to a fear of to much law we can not stand by in casses that are real and hapening today and say lets not do anything. Instead the people of the United States need to take responsability for the creation of laws and pertisapate in the formation of laws to insure the proper type of law be introduced and passed. This isn't what might happen to a child this is what is happening to a child. I am not a parent, my father is a wonderfull man and I know what happens if some one is faulsly accused of a crime such as this, but what happens to the child when it is true and the legal system fails her or him and the are placed in the custody of the verry person that is abuseing them. In reality only 2% of the people accused are not guilty, so are some of you saying inorder to save the hardship or emberasment of that two percent lets not stop the 98% who are guilty. I am the worlds worst speller and hope you will all over look my spelling and read what is wrighten with the inten of the wrighting and not the gramer or spelling. If any of you have an opertunity to write a letter or call please do. The people in charge of the fate of these children are electted aficials and your opinons do influence there disisions. Let your officals know that you will not stand for child sexaul abuse in your comunity. If you see a child that you think there is a problem risk a little embaresment and find out what is going on. It may save a childs life or save that child a great deal of pain and suffering. I am a Product Support Eng. for the Southern Area and cover nine states I am on the road all week and home on the weekends. It is often hard for me to read this note or any other. I will keep in touch though and let you know the out come of these two cases.
674.12	3/25/88	ODIXIE::HILLIARD	MS ENVIRONMENT	`Thu Mar 24 1988 16:17`	4
	The legal system in Ms. is still trying to prosecute those indaviduals tha tried to help. The children are with the people they have acused of abusing them. If you can write a letter please do. This problem will not go away.