|  |    I can tell you about my Digital teaching experiences outside the U.S., 
   although I don't know that they're very representative. I've taught 
   many 2-week VMS System Seminars in Reading, Munich, Valbonne, Nieuwegein 
   (Netherlands), and Tokyo, and several 1-week VMS announcement and/or update
   courses in Reading and Geneva, over the past 9 years. The System Seminars 
   have two instructors, and usually I taught with a man. The other courses 
   I taught alone. All these were employee courses.
   
   I don't remember very much prejudice against me as a woman. There
   was *some*, but it was pretty limited and mostly disappeared when
   students decided I knew what I was talking about.
   Your story about the woman and man team-teaching in Munich was
   familiar. Similar things have happened to me. However, in this case,
   other cultural differences *might* account for some of the difference 
   in treatment. For example, my (somewhat prejudiced) impression is that 
   many Germans are more formal in their manners and appearance than most 
   Americans and would perhaps be more impressed by a more formal instructor. 
   
   It seems to me that my European classes were generally less open
   than US ones, and that it took them longer to loosen up and feel
   comfortable asking questions and reacting to things. Some of that
   may have been cultural. It seemed also like some of it was time for
   students to get used to my accent, language use, facial expressions, and    
   also what I expected from them in the way of feedback. Also, my
   experience was that more junior (continental, not English) Digits tended
   to be less comfortable with classes taught in English than their senior 
   colleagues. I used my hands and arms a lot to try to get across.
   
   The 2 Japanese classes I taught were even less open. Traditionally,
   I was told, in Japan students did not ask questions and believed that 
   it was their fault if they didn't understand something. Also, the 
   language barrier was higher. It took considerably longer to get the
   class reacting. (My 1st class in Tokyo, ~1980, I was the only woman.
   The 2nd, ~1982, the other teacher was a woman, and there were 2
   female software specialists in the class, one of whom told me
   proudly about a female unit SWS manager in the Tokyo office.)
   I haven't ever tried anything other than ignoring prejudice and
   trying to reach the people who wanted to listen. Knowing your
   subject well and having a captive audience is a real good
   combination against that kind of prejudice, and I've been lucky
   enough so far not to have encountered any under other circumstances.
                                                                    
   If I were faced with your team-teaching example, I'd try to set some
   boundaries with the other teacher - maybe questions for certain 
   areas or subjects go to 1 person, and others to the 2nd. Or, if
   no subject division were possible, maybe the 2 could alternate answering 
   questions to spread the work. 
   
   reg
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|  |     I taught the VAX LISP course in Munich this Fall.  I had a good
    time doing it.  It is hard to say how the students would have treated
    me had I been a man, because I've never been one.  But it seems
    pretty clear that the treatment I received would have been different
    had I been a man.  The difference in gender seems to be more important
    in how people treat me at first than in how they treat me after knowing
    me for a longer time.  I was there for 2 weeks, and I think generated
    the respect of those who could understand what I was saying.  I'm an
    engineer, not a teacher, so my presentation was not silky smooth.
    The students were mostly male (one female), and none American.
    
    Beryl
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|  | 
    I suspect  the  problem  with the team teaching experience in Munich 
    (or elsewhere in Europe) may have had very simple origins.    At the 
    beginning  of a course it is usual to have introductions, and it may 
    be, that however  inadvertantly  the  male  partner  may  have  been 
    introduced  in  such  a manner as to appear to be the senior partner 
    (it could have been something as simple as job title, or  length  of 
    service, I have seen both cause problems).
    
    Once  that  scenario  is  in  place  it is correct etiquette for the 
    students to address problems/questions to the  senior  player.   The 
    only  way  to  avoid the problem is to rehearse the introduction and 
    make sure that it has nothing to indicate seniority.
    
    In passing I remember  one  situation  in  which  something  similar 
    happened   where  one  instructor  stood  at  the  dais  during  the 
    introductions and the other sat at a desk in the  front  row,  after 
    that  most  of  the  attendees  assumed  that  the  one who had been 
    standing was senior.
    
    We learn these attitudes very early, as early as the first  time  in 
    school that a trainee teacher is introduced to the classroom.  Since 
    the trainee/trainer situation is usually the only one we  see  until 
    beyond university the cultural message is very strng (and not at all 
    sex related, as precisely the same major/minor role allocation  will 
    happen  with  two  men  or  two  women  team teaching if your aren't 
    careful) 
    
    /. Ian .\ (ex-teacher albeit male)
    
    PS during my teaching practice my mentor was an  experienced  female 
    teacxher, and I experienced this shut out in reverse -- very bad for 
    the macho image, don't you know :-)
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|  |     One anecdote and a suggestion about the team session:
    
    I was working for a different company when a (female) colleague
    and I came to London to teach a course.  My colleague and I were
    both about 25 at the time, and the 'students' (9 or 10) of them
    were all in the 45-60 age range.  We were setting up the room and
    we saw a box on the table.  When we asked what was in the box, one
    of the men responded, "it's a box of rubbers".  We asked what their
    intentions were in using these, and were quickly advised that the
    British word "rubber" refers to "pencil erasers".
    
    As for the team-teaching comment ... the most important move you
    can make when people insist on asking the male member of the team
    all the questions, is to enlist his support.  He should re-direct
    their questions to you.  After doing this two or three times, they'll
    catch on.
    
    
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