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| 861.1 |  | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed Feb 07 1996 12:15 | 1 | 
|  |     Yes. :-)
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| 861.2 |  | CPCOD::JOHNSON | A rare blue and gold afternoon | Wed Feb 07 1996 12:52 | 5 | 
|  | God forbade the Israelites to cosume blood & the explanation
given is because "the life is in the blood".  That's in Deuteronomy and/or
Leviticus somewhere.
Leslie
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| 861.3 |  | ICTHUS::YUILLE | He must increase - I must decrease | Wed Feb 07 1996 13:13 | 29 | 
|  | �    Has anyone ever read of a reason or speculation as to why blood is used
�    for atonement?  I guessing it has something to do with its importance
�    to life-giving energy and not being able to live without it.
   "For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you 
    to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes 
    atonement for one's life"
							Leviticus 17:11
Amplifying the command of Genesis 9:4, the significance of blood is such
that 'shedding the blood' of someone denotes killing them, although
bleeding doesn't necessarily mean death. Each individual life belongs to
God (hence His requirement for an accounting of any life taken, in Gensis
9:5).  The payment in blood for our eternal life denotes in type, life for
life.  It is the holy token of life, defined as God's particular gift
separating life from non-life (in this sense plants are not 'living', and
are not considered as such Biblically), and the characteristic of each one 
of us is carried in his blood.  The only acceptable sacrifice was pure, 
untainted blood, as only the LORD Jesus had to offer.
There are so many pictures in the blood sacrifice that it's difficult to 
know where the picture ends, and the reality begins.  That's how good God 
is to us, in showing the glory of salvation in our very design.
But I guess you meant something further than this...
								Andrew
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| 861.4 | more... | DPPSYS::FYFE | I have much more to tell you... | Wed Feb 07 1996 13:14 | 14 | 
|  |     
    
    Yes it is in Leviticus 3 & 17 I think. It also says;
    
    	"Since the life of a living body is in it's blood, I have
    	 made you put it on the altar, so that atonement may thereby 
    	 be made for your own lives, because it is the blood, as the
    	 seat of life, that makes atonement"
    
    Which has it's fulfilment in Christ, the perfect sacrifice, John 6.
    
    Peace,
    
    	Tom
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| 861.5 | fyi | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Wed Feb 07 1996 13:58 | 7 | 
|  |     "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have assigned it to
    you for making expiation for your lives upon the altar; it is the
    blood, as life, that effects expiation."
    
    Leviticus 17:11 (Tanakh - JPS translation based on Masoretic manuscripts)
    
    Mike
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| 861.6 |  | JULIET::MORALES_NA | Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze | Wed Feb 07 1996 14:46 | 1 | 
|  |     Why did you ask if you already knew, Mike? :-)
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| 861.7 | how's this? | OUTSRC::HEISER | watchman on the wall | Wed Feb 07 1996 15:31 | 2 | 
|  |     I didn't have a scriptural reference and wanted one and was too lazy to
    look it up. ;-)
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| 861.8 | Symbol => Reality | YIELD::BARBIERI |  | Wed Feb 07 1996 16:05 | 11 | 
|  |       So far as expiation is concerned, is Christ's literal blood
      part of the expiation or is it purely a symbol where that which
      it is symbolic of is the expiation?
    
      My conviction: Christ's literal blood is not expiation.  The
      revelation of His self-sacrificing love, the love expressed on
      the cross is all of the expiation.
    
      Now, how is revelation expiation?
    
    							Tony
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| 861.9 |  | HPCGRP::DIEWALD |  | Wed Feb 07 1996 16:26 | 1 | 
|  |     I know I asked this before but, what is expiation again?
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| 861.10 |  | DWSPR::WOODWARDC | ...but words can break my heart | Wed Feb 07 1996 18:32 | 3 | 
|  |     expiate, adj. to make amends: atone
    
    New Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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| 861.11 | How??? | YIELD::BARBIERI |  | Thu Feb 08 1996 07:43 | 12 | 
|  |       Thanks Harry!
    
      To use an equivalent word:
    
      The sum total of what the blood is metaphorical of is
      *REVELATION*.   (See John 6:53,63).
    
      How does revelation atone?
    
    						Tony
    
      
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| 861.12 | You must not eat the blood for the life is in the blood | CPCOD::JOHNSON | A rare blue and gold afternoon | Thu Feb 08 1996 10:56 | 32 | 
|  | RE: my own note, 861.2
>God forbade the Israelites to cosume blood & the explanation
>given is because "the life is in the blood".  That's in Deuteronomy and/or
>Leviticus somewhere.
The passage I was thinking of is Deuteronomy 12:23-27. The quote below is
from the REB. The NIV which I looked it up in is slightly different, but
essentially the same. My Niv doesn't fit in my briefcase too well.
(Preceeding these verses is stuff about how animals for food can be
slaughtered in their towns & settlements if the place the Lord chooses is 
far for them to travel easily on a regular basis. For the animals slaughtered 
thusly, the first paragraph below applies. The second paragraph applies 
to sacrifices and offerings)
    "But you must strictly refrain from partaking of the blood, 
     because the blood is the life; you must not eat the life 
     with the flesh. If you abstain from it, all will be well 
     with you and your children after you; for you will be doing
     what is right in the eyes of the Lord.
     But such holy-gifts as you may have and gifts you have vowed
     you must bring to the place the Lord will choose. You must 
     present your whole-offerings, both the flesh and the blood, on
     the alter of the Lord your God; but of your shared-offerings you 
     are to eat the flesh, while the blood is to be poured on the
     alter of the Lord your God."
     Deuterononmy 12:23-27
Leslie
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