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Conference yukon::christian_v7

Title:	The CHRISTIAN Notesfile
Notice:	Jesus reigns! - Intros: note 4; Praise: note 165
Moderator:	ICTHUS::YUILLEON

Created:	Tue Feb 16 1993
Last Modified:	Fri May 02 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	962
Total number of notes:	42902

854.0. "church seeking" by FABSIX::T_TEAHAN () Sat Jan 20 1996 02:37

    Hi,
    
        Can you help me? I have been born again about 7 years now and i
    continue to look for a church/denomination that lines up, as close as
    possible, to what i believe.
         Im in a assemblies of God church now, 4 years, they rely on an
    outpouring of the holy spirit like the day of pentecost, they rely on
    feelings, even when they say they dont. They rely on experiences and
    when 1 doesnt take place, they can sometimes feel that the spirit needs
    to be stirred up, and seek revival, which is great, revival, even more.
                I believe that God poured out his spirit on the day of
    pentecost, such as they do, but i differ in the sense that when that
    happened and i received his spirit and was born again, that i got all
    of his spirit, not half and thus do not have to wait for another
    experience in that sense but pray, etc. and be empowered by the spirit
    that already dwells in me, as whole, to have  effect in
    ministry.
             I realize that God touches me by the spirit, my emotions and
    feelings, feelings and emotions and experiences are not bad, but
    waiting for God to move when i feel in my spirit that he is waiting for
    his people to be empowered and move, is another thing. Also i do
    question tongues. Also i would consider myself evangelical and at times
    charasmatic but again that charisma is based on experience and feelings
    that i do not always posess in a charasmatic way but conservative at
    times. Id say im border line fundamentalist/evangelical charasmatic, do
    believe some gifts of the spirit but dont know what ones are   
    counterfeit, from others. Its tough finding a church that lines up to
    what i maybe looking for, thats "no conflict"
    
                     thomas

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
854.1		JULIET::MORALES_NA	Sweet Spirit's Gentle Breeze	`Sat Jan 20 1996 13:34`	28
	Hi Thomas, It's Saturday and here I am at work waiting on co-worker to help train on her new PC. Good questions! And from a seeking heart, no less! Thomas, It has always been my impression that it is only through Pastoral confidence that you can ever be happy at a church. People in the church can fail you and cause discomfort, but you can usually get through those failures. But when a Pastor fails you, usually folks move on. It is my suggestion, dear Thomas, that you have a meeting with your current pastor and talk about your unsettledness and ask for his counsel, if you still believe this pastor is your pastor. If you cannot speak with this pastor, then it is my suggestion that you visit some churches and set up meetings with their pastor and discuss your spiritual needs in a church. No-one here can guide you to "a" church that will satisfy all your needs, until you've defined all your needs and then interviewed pastor's at church's you find desirable, but not convinced. Seek inside of you for what you need, the go out and find. Nancy
854.2		PAULKM::WEISS	For I am determined to know nothing, except...	`Mon Jan 22 1996 08:54`	4
	Where do you live? If you live near one of us, we may have recommendations of particular churches. Paul
854.3		CPCOD::JOHNSON	A rare blue and gold afternoon	`Mon Jan 22 1996 10:07`	5
	Paul asked the same question I was going to. Sometimes its not always a question of which denomination, but which congregation. Leslie
854.4	church seeking	FABSIX::T_TEAHAN		`Fri Jan 26 1996 20:59`	8
	hi , i live in Malden, Ma, Paul, Leslie. Nancy thanks for your input. I, now, have left my former church and now investigating other churches. I have felt that my fOrmer Pastor had only his view of doctrine and that it was the only view that counted. I love the man and know there is an anointing upon him and God is using him, where he is at with what he knows. thomas
854.5		CPCOD::JOHNSON	A rare blue and gold afternoon	`Mon Jan 29 1996 10:39`	4
	I am unfamiliar with the area right around Malden. I have just prayer for God's wisdom for you as you look for a new church home. Leslie
854.6		AUSSIE::CAMERON	And there shall come FORTH (Isaiah 11:1)	`Tue Jan 30 1996 05:49`	12
	(Message from my wife to Thomas...) Hello, Thomas. Just this afternoon, I asked James if he had heard from you recently, and he said you didn't have access to IRC at the moment... Was wondering how you were going. You would probably like our church, except that it's a little too far away : ) I like Nancy's suggestion - interviewing the pastors. I'm pretty sure Harry did that when he was church-searching, as well as attending each church for at least four weeks in a row, to get a decent feel for it. We'll pray that you find a new church family. Petria
854.7	church seeking	FABSIX::T_TEAHAN		`Wed Jan 31 1996 21:33`	1
	thanks, thomas