Conference wahoo::fishing

	From rt 9 west take 148 south, about 3-5 mile down take a right 
and you should be at the noth end of the lake between Quaboag and South pond.

	From rt 20 take old boston post road about 3- 5 miles up take a left 
and your there.

	Don't know how thick the ice is there, there are alot of people there 
on weekends. The ice on a nearby pond out there is 4" to 8".

	JR
    
    

    
    
    	Walt, read about a large pike coming out of South a couple of
    	weeks ago.   They had performed a netting study and noted a couple
    	of pike over twenty and "several" over ten pounds.   I have caught
    	bass there in the summer.  I believe that there is a trout
    	population also.....Les can verify that.
    
    	Gitzit'
    	

    
    Thanks for the help, I'll let you know how things go this weekend.
    
                                           Walt

	The MA state record pike came from South Pond.  I met the guy
	who caught it at the Glenco Farms bait shop a couple of weeks 
	ago.  I've never seen a larger fish come from fresh water, judging
	from the picture posted there.   He said he couldn't wait for South
	to freeze up (which is certainly has since).   They've had cars
	on Quabog, adjacent to South, fwiw.
	
	Another thing about the pike study there is that they found the pike
	to be in schools rather when they are usually loners with one here 
	and one there.   Noone know why.   I thought I heard they brought up
	a couple over 30 lbs, ie, state records, but it could be exaggeration.
	I do know that someday I'd like to catch a pike, any size!
	
	South has lots of rainbows and browns as well as bass.

	Ken    	

    	Its to bad that South Pond is falling victim to the popularity
    of this file and just about everyone I run into that fish's that area.
    I have been fishing the pond for about 6 years. It hasn't been overly
    crowded until this year. It seem since the T&G did the story on the 
    pike population it has been determined to be place to go, more so
    than when the record pike was caught. I have never caught a pike there, 
    but some nice bass and trout. The fishing isn't fast and furious, but 
    reasonable. It saddened me to hear a individual from my building went up 
    there last weekend and caught "6 Nice Bass", that he and his partner kept 
    for dinner. It sucks to see a place you fish regularly go down the tubes 
    with crowds and the kill mentality. This pond is not big, and is sure
    to go down the tubes with the pressure its see's now.

    Time to find a new haunt
    Rich

re: my previous note:

>       Another thing about the pike study there is that they found the pike
>        to be in schools rather when they are usually loners with one here
>        and one there.   Noone know why.   I thought I heard they brought up

Actually this study took place at Quabog, not South Pond where I hear the
fishing has been terrible ;-)

re:                        <<< Note 6.34 by JUPITR::NEAL >>>

>    	Its to bad that South Pond is falling victim to the popularity
>    of this file and just about everyone I run into that fish's that area.
>    I have been fishing the pond for about 6 years. It hasn't been overly
>    crowded until this year. It seem since the T&G did the story on the 
>    pike population it has been determined to be place to go, more so

Also blame the Worcester T+G for mentioning South among a handful of other
places whenever trout stocking takes place in Worcester county.  And for the 
article about the state wanting to turn it into a Prized Trout pond (complete 
with aerators).

Ken

    I don't think trout stocking announcements are as much of a problem as
    the last article. Those announcements have been going on for years.
    I would see the same faces during the trout season. It didn't seem to
    matter. Now its South Pond this and South Pond that. Everyone has to go 
    to South Pond. I would be curios how far people travel to go to this 
    mythical utopia of a pond. 

    Rich

    
          The KIV travels from Woodchester. 

    
    	The Swivel travels from Baton Rouge, Indiana.
    

    
    
    
          The Keg travels from Natick for what reason I just don't know??
    
    

    
    
    	Ken....I am almost positive about this.  They did also do a netting
    	study on Quabog.  They found few pike and smaller sized pike.  But
        South was where the big ones were found.
    
    	And I don't know what the big deal is about people hearing about
    	South Pond.....with the large Pike pulled out of there the
    	information on South has been out and about for the past three
    	years.  I don't think that the article in the Worcester T&G has
        done anymore harm than the word of mouth.
    
    	Glenco Farms....the bait shop nearby...just call them...they will
    	tell it all  about South....they want the business.
    
    	Gitzit'
    

re:                        <<< Note 6.40 by JURAN::HAUER >>>
    
>    	Ken....I am almost positive about this.  They did also do a netting
>    	study on Quabog.  They found few pike and smaller sized pike.  But
>       South was where the big ones were found.

	Hi Gitzit, if you're referring to my note,.33, where I said:

>       Another thing about the pike study there is that they found the pike
>       to be in schools rather when they are usually loners with one here
>       and one there.   Noone know why.   I thought I heard they brought up

	I was referring to a study done at Quabog, not South...  a good
	friend of mine who is on the lakes committee for Quabog told me 
	about it.  I didn't hear any specifics about where "the big ones" 
	were (Quabog or South), just that there were some big ones out there.

>    	years.  I don't think that the article in the Worcester T&G has
>        done anymore harm than the word of mouth.

	Maybe not.  I live about 10 mins from this area, and have been fishing
	South for 4 years now (all for spring + fall trout).  I don't read 
	the T+G anymore because it's too damn conservative and they have 
	terrible Bruins coverage! ;-)
    
>    	Glenco Farms....the bait shop nearby...just call them...they will
>    	tell it all  about South....they want the business.
	
	I'll say!

	Ken

    Hey Gitzit, You are right about the study.  I honestly believe you
    are wrong about the T&G article. You cant get near the place now.  
    No problems before. It seems those types of articles attract the MEAT
    fishermen, that the only beef I have. Hell if I really want to get out
    there I just get there earlier.  As for Glenco Farms, Great People.
    good prices. I think she likes me :-). On another note, I hope this state 
    adopts a closed season for bass during the spawn. It will put an end to 
    easy meat hunting and tournaments that displace the bass during the spawn.

    
    Rich
    
    

    
    	Yikes....Hey Neal...don't do a drive by my house and shoot the
    	front window out...:-)  If there are more people 'cause of the
    	article...then there probably are....I haven't been to the 'boag
    	or South this year.   And about the Lady at Glenco...now DON'T 
    	be giving that SECRET away too.....she's worth the trip there....
    	and she has mentioned your name when I told her that I worked at
    	Digital.  Careful though...her husband is kinda protective, wouldn't
    	you be too!
    
    	Gitzit'
    
    

    
      Rich, Ray,
     
            Sorry I can't agree totally. "A closed season during the spawn"
    
     You've got to be kidden !!  Do you know how long a spawn actually is?
     I belive its "29 days"  from start to finish. Now depending on
     smallmouths & largemouths (these guys spawn at different water temps)
     can easlly spawn "weeks a part". Or how about the spawn @ places like
     Quabbin, compared to some of the 12' to 20' lakes. There are too many
     variables to control, a closed season during a spawn would be
     ludicrous.  Sorry guys, I can't agree. Taking a bass off its bed will
     most likely have no ill effects, there back on them in minutes. I feel
     the half mile (or how ever long) ride in the live well/cooler is a
     different story.                                                                         
                                                         kiv
    

    Kiv, I think we are in agreement. Catch and release, None in Possesion.
    I heard the state is looking into this, following NH's lead. Anyone
    have the facts?
    
    Rich

re:                        <<< Note 6.44 by JURAN::HAUER >>>

>	..............   And about the Lady at Glenco...now DON'T 
>    	be giving that SECRET away too.....she's worth the trip there....


	;-)  Hah!   When she was filling out the form for my 
	1991 fishin' license, she said "now gimme your phone # in 
	case I want a date"!    I was ready to drop fishin' right
	then and there ;-)  The guys I was with were doubled over ;-)

	Ken

    
    	Just what is the NH law?
    
    	Gitzit'   [you know...enquiring mind kinda thing]
    
    

    4/1  - 6/30  Artificial lures only
    
    4/1  - 5/14  2 fish
    5/15 - 6/15	 catch and immediate release *
    6/16 - 6/30  2 fish
     
    7/1  - 3/31	 5 fish - except only 2 fish through the ice
    
    * - NH F&G does issue a number of tournament permits for certain
        bodies of water.  Clubs may apply for permits.  There is a a
        $25 tournament permit fee.  The permit allows tournament 
        participants to hold 2 fish in a livewell until they are
        weighed and released.
    
    -donmac

    Don Mac, 
    		So what happens if during the 5-15 - 6-15 catch and
    immediate release season, you have one of those permits to keep
    two fish in your livewell during a tournament, and the fish 
    die. Would you be in deep doo doo? 

    Rich

    BTW. Any bets as to when the title of this note will change again?:-) 

    	While I was at the Fishin Expo at the Worcester Centrum, I was
    gazing at the World record replicas.  Along came this guy in a suit who
    looked to me as one of those once-a-summer fishermen, if you know what
    I mean.  Anyways, he says to me, "I bet there's one bigger than that in
    South Pond," as he pointer at the Muskie!  I said to my father, "Boy is
    there a lot of commotion about South Pond!"  Seems as everyone has
    heard of this place!  So I think you little secret fishing hole is
    pretty famous.  Everyone seems to think that this will produce the next
    record fish.
    
    	Swivel
    

    Swivel,
    	Where have you been? I think thats it. EVERONE THINKS
    ITS THE PLACE TO GO. Its no secret, never has been, Just over
    publisized! Any way, thats not my secret place. I'll never tell
    where that is!:-)
    
    Rich