Conference wahoo::fishing

    I have used dead bait on occasion, but never had any luck with it.
    supposibly the lake trout lave the dead bait and of course pike. What
    I understand is that a lot of the HUGE pike eat a lot of dead bait.
    
    Rich

   
   	I had read articles concerning using dead bait for PIKE and
    this past weekend tried it for the first time through the ice. 
    No luck, but there was nothing on the live bait either.  Will
    continue to try it, especially just after ice out.  
    
    I also saw in these articles about "wobbling" the dead bait across
    the bottom....have you tried that and did you have any success????
    
    Gitzit' 
    

                       >deadly method for the big un`s<    

  Deadbaiting is probably the most popular way in the UK of catching good size
  (5lb plus) Pike, it has taken over in the last few years from livebaiting due
  mainly to the restrictions imposed on moving fish from water to water in an
  effort to cut down on spreading disease, also of course you don`t have to 
  waste valuable Pike fishing time trying to catch livebait. It is definitely a
  well proven method which can produce very good fish, last month for example I 
  had a 16lb and a 11 1/4lb fish in 3 hours of fishing, however if you practice
  catch and return as we almost all do over here, it is important to time the 
  strike so that the Pike has`nt actually swallowed the bait, otherwise of 
  course it is impossible to get the hooks out, in which case it is better to
  cut the wire and release the fish with them still in place, it is believed 
  that the digestive juices will dissolve the hooks in time !!! . Ideally the
  the fish should be allowed to pick up the bait and move off with it it is 
  then holding the fish sideways in its jaws but strike then and there is a 
  good chance that the hooks (two large trebles) will miss, so wait, after a 
  short run it will stop and turn the bait ready for it to be swallowed and 
  now is the time to strike, just give it about 10 seconds after it has 
  stopped. This theory of course does not work every time as on some occasions 
  the Pike will pick up the bait and swallow it before moving and other times 
  it will keep holding it sideways for a while after stopping, but then 
  nothings simple in fishing.
       When ever I deadbait I use two rods one cast out deep and the other very
  close in near weed,reeds or an overhanging tree, it can sometimes be a long 
  wait, but worth it so don`t give up to quickly, and don`t forget to leave
  the reel pick open otherwise you could easily lose the rod. 
       I have`nt tried wobbling deadbaits for some time as most of the lakes I 
  fish now are fairly shallow average about 6ft and in comparison to the lakes
  I have seen in the New England area small usually around 1 to 2 acres so  
  the bottom has usually a lot of snags on it.

                Good Luck.

                      Colin

    
    
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           Hey,Rich,Deadbait,Livebait whats the difference??? Ewe don't
           catch anything but perch anyway!!!!! 
    
    
                                           Ewe Know Who!!
    
                                               The Keg

    Dead bait works well for Lake Trout and Rainbows in the winter in
    Ontario. The trick is to find a current to give them some "Life".
    We use frozen smelt with a couple of small marshmellows stuffed
    down their throats. Then rig them with a "Minnow Rig" and float
    them about 6" off the bottom. Good spots are the mouth of the Genesee
    River, Sandy Creek and Oak Orchard Creek.
    
    I used to get a lot of small Salmon that way in Cayuga Lake (Landlocked
    Salmon) off Meyers Point. (Ithaca, NY)