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| 961.1 | | MIGHTY::DILSWORTH | | Fri Jan 27 1989 09:58 | 17 |
| Brett,
There are two type of aerators. One pumps in fresh water from the
outside and has an overflow and the other pumps air into the water.
Neither one draws enough current to be a consideration.
I have a pump for fresh water and DonMac has an aerator. Don doesn't
loose many fish, but he does add catch and release to keep them alive.
Before I bought an automatic timer, I had to remember to turn on the
livewell. I lost several fish during one tounament in hot weather. I
promptly went out and bought a timer after that and have only lost one
fish since.
One consideration you have may be salt water. Herring and DECWET sounds
like Seatle.
keith
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| 961.2 | | RAINBO::MACINTYRE | Fish are rising up like birds | Fri Jan 27 1989 12:09 | 17 |
| Keith, I've been having luck using the aerator without catch and
release also. After loosing a couple fish at a l o n g h o t
tournament while using catch and release formula and having to just
throw them away (because you can't eat them after they've been in
catch and release), I decided to try and stop using c&r.
Instead I've paid closer attention to the water temp in the livewell
and if it warms up I'll change the water. Granted, this does take
a few minutes of valuable tournament time, but it works. And if
a fish does die, it may be eaten rather than wasted.
So far that happened only once - and I'm pretty sure it was due to
the fact that the bass had swallowed the worm and the hook was set
down deep in his throat.
donmac - who's not as big on c&r formula as he used to be...
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| 961.3 | Please continue | DECWET::HELSEL | I'm the NRA | Fri Jan 27 1989 14:01 | 29 |
| re: .1
Correct. I am using herring to fish for Salmon in Puget Sound.
When I get the herring, they are live. I keep them on ice so
they look their best. Just prior to rigging them up, I cut them
so as to produce spin on a double hook called a "hook up". This
is called the "cut plug" method. Although i don't use live herring
in the water, they look better if they have expired more recently.
So now, if I used a live well that exchanged water, wouldn't I have
to cut through the hull (shiver)? This sound like the best way,
but more complicated.
re: .2
I assume you just have an air pump with a tube that aerates the
water. I suppose you could always scoop out some water and pour
in some fresh from time to time. Temperature is something I hadn't
considered. The water temp in the Sound is a constant 53 degrees.
What do you mean by catch and release with regard to a live well?
Is this actually some type of water conditioner or are you actually
catching and releasing your bait. Sorry, I'm a tad confused.
Brett.
P.S. We don't get ice and I limited with three nice blackmouth salmon
last Saturday. My partner also limited. Beautiful sunny day.
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| 961.4 | keep'n em alive | RAINBO::MACINTYRE | Fish are rising up like birds | Fri Jan 27 1989 14:16 | 13 |
| Catch and Release is powdered treatment that is added to livewells
in order to keep your catch (nto your bait) alive, so that they
may be released in good condition after the weigh-in. It is primarily
used by tournament bass fishermen.
It relaxes the bass, helps them replace their slime coat, helps
fight fungus, etc...
The aerator that I use is a pump that circulates the water. It's
sucked off the bottom and sprayed out a tube with about 10 holes
from the top of the livewell (in my case a large 55qt cooler).
Don Mac
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| 961.5 | Great info | DECWET::HELSEL | I'm the NRA | Fri Jan 27 1989 16:40 | 13 |
| Oh, I see. I'm not cath and release fishing. I'm more
into kill and fillet with regard to the type of fish we
hunt here.
One of the things we've discussed is whether we would catch more
fish if we lowered live herring down there. The live well would
be an essential component for this investigation. Not sure I want
to cut a hole in the hull so the aerator you describe might get
me by. Herring are allegedly sensitive to temperature, so I have
to think about this.
Brett.
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| 961.6 | Shiners an live wells | DPDMAI::BEAZLEY | | Fri Jan 27 1989 18:08 | 31 |
| De bes live wells dat I've seen ar made in de boat, wit holes in
de bottom. Dey move de water frum de outside thru de well. Course
dose are wooden(cypress) boats. Chew don hab to change de water
yousef, tho.
Wit shiners, minnows, hearing, or whateber: put dem in a
polyuterine(plastic) bag wit some oxygen, lak dey hab at de hospitol.
Dey las a long time and stey healthy.
DE live well look lak dis
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Coonass
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| 961.7 | If it's just bait.... | VICKI::DODIER | | Mon Jan 30 1989 12:37 | 8 |
| If your just keeping bait you can get a bait bucket that you
throw over the side. It has holes in the top half big enough to let
the water flow through without letting the fish out. When you move
you just lift the bucket out of the water. It has a spring loaded
door to get the bait out through but keep them in there. They cost
about $8-$10.
RAYJ
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| 961.8 | More info on bait buckets | VICKI::DODIER | | Mon Jan 30 1989 12:50 | 9 |
| On page 298 of the 1988 full Bass-Pro catalog they have 3 listed:
Flow-troll $8.94 - Plano 800 troll $8.99 - Bass Shuttle $9.97
I have the Flow-troll which I bought years ago for Killies (3"
minnows used for fluke fishing). It's simple, durable, inexpensive,
doesn't use batteries, plastic (won't rust), and it works.
RAYJ
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| 961.9 | Force Flow? | PACKER::GIBSON | | Fri Mar 24 1989 16:16 | 22 |
| I'm getting into this live bait thing also. I just bought a Rule
general purpose pump but don't want to keep it constantly running
for bait. It would run down the batteries.
Has anyone tried setting up a forced flow system that rams water
into a piece of PVC pipe up into the live well?
If so how does it work? I know the priciple of it but wonder how
much it reduces the boat speed and/or increses gas consumption by
dragging the pipe in the water?
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| 961.10 | No idea's ever wasted ! | HPSTEK::CYGAN | | Wed Feb 28 1990 09:56 | 26 |
| Seems like you'll run into all kindsa stuff like air-locks, varied
rates of flow dependent on status of boat at time 'x', etc. etc.
How ya gonna design an overflow outlet big/small enough to handle
a variety of inlet pressures/flow rates?
I suggest that if your idea were plausable, EVERYBODY'd be doing it,
and somebody would be making a FORTUNE on it already.
By the way.....those fancy live-well timers are nothing more than
one of the widshield wiper timers you can buy (on sales) for about
$9 at many department stores. Just fancied up a bit.
Seems like if you set the time-on interval to a wide time off, the
battery use will be negligble.
** FUNNY to note how few boats out there have battery condition
meters on them.....seems like a good idea to me!
Couldn't help but notice that the 8" of snow we just got has slowed
down them there night-crawlers that were starting to come out of the
ground already, here in MASS.....sure makes em EZ to CATCH....but how
do ya thaw em out???????
'catch-as-catch-can'
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| 961.11 | Mag-Air Bubbler | CSSE::SANDER | | Wed Mar 07 1990 12:40 | 20 |
| I've been meaning to put this note in here for some time.
My wife fishes for bass with minnows. Especially during the summer many
would go belly up, but some would die at other time too. I tried some of
the ideas in this file and they helped. But last spring I bought a
Mag-Air Aerator from BPS. I think the price was 29.99. I also went for
the "million bubble hose" and the adapter package for AC or DC. Last
year I could count one one hand the number of minnows that died without
seeing a bass.
The unit is slick. You can adjust the level of aeration you want depending
for example if the minnows are in a large or small bucket. The unit can
be used with batteries or AC. It will also charge the NiCads while the
unit is plugged into the wall and supplying air to the minnows. Or can
use regular batteries. It had an adapter cord to run off the battery or
the cigerette lighter in the car.
I am happy with the investment. Just thought I would pass it on.
Ed
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