Conference wahoo::fishing

re: < Note 658.0 by SHARE::MPETERSON >  -< Loran Numbers >-
>    Does anyone know the Loran numbers for off the coast of Plymouth
>    Ma.... TKs.. Mike

Mike,
I will look them up for you when I get home today if you wish. 
Where exactly off of Plymouth are you looking for. Do you plan 
on going into the harbor? Do you have a chart of Cape Cod Bay?
norm

    All the current charts show the loran lines for the area covered
    by the chart.  You can interpolate resonably well but don't bet
    your boat on those readings, they are only as accurate as your
    attempt to read the chart.
    
    Make sure you know which repeaters your unit will read for the area
    you are boating in.

    Another point on the LOPs on charts! Every LORAN user should know
    that the LOPs printed on most charts were determined by calculation
    not by "real" field data. Although NOA is revising the LOPs there
    are still many times when the chart and or your LORAN LOPs will
    not agree with the live station signals.
    
    If very close positioning info is required to keep you off the rocks
    or other nastyness then use know and repeatable TDs. Don't depend
    on the charts!
    
    In some areas it can be helpful to "fix" your position with coastal
    land marks and then compare with the LORAN LOPs. DO NOT use buoys
    and such unless you positive about their position.
    
    Jerry
    

Any body want to use this space for exchange of real numbers?

Like 14000.0, 44031.0 good cod fishing .

anybody got some favorite numbers at the 'dump'?
norm

    GOOD ADVICE .3, THESE UNITS CAN BE DEADLY ACCURATE IF YOU SAVE THE
    LOCATIONS AS YOU GO OVER THEM.  MOST UNITS MAKE IT VERY EASY TO
    SAVE THE POINTS REAL TIME, YOU CAN READ THEM OUT LATER TO MAKE A
    LOG.  THE LOG SHOULD BE MADE IN CASE YOUR SYSTEM LOSES MEMORY.
    
    IF YOU FEED BACK IN THE SAME POINTS THE UNIT SHOULD BE REPEATABLE
    TO THE LIMITS OF ITT ACCURACY.
    

    Re .4>>
    It sure is hard to believe that six(6) days pass along and no one
    will post any numbers! I guess they must be secret. Maybe some of
    those fishermen(whoops-fisherpersons-sorry JEANNE) don't know the
    spots after all.( Just notes talk) ? 
     

    I think the problem here is that not to many of us fish the same
    area's. I have some numbers for the North Shore (inshore) but except
    for Joe I don't know anyone else these might be useful to. When
    I start running out to Jeffries and Stellewagon and find some
    productive spots I will post those since there are a couple of people
    that fish those areas.
    
    Bruce

    BRUCE,
    You hit it right on the head and that is why we should use this file.
    Because someday anyone one of us may just want to go somewhere new
    and the numbers could really make the difference between wasting
    several hours of running or getting a hook-up.
    I really thought some of those guys a little south of us that talk
    about Jersey and Long Island ,Rhode Island etc may have something
    positive to offer but maybe they really don't go fishing just talk 
    about it. Just think if the numbers are here all we have to do is
    plug them in and like magic the distance and time to arrival for
    a given speed is automatic. 
    norm
    

    Before we judge people on their use or non-use of this loran number
    note, I think we should consider:
    
    -	Some people may not have a loran or chose to use it for finding
    	that special piece of bottom. (not me, I have numbers for everything)
                                                             
    -   Some people have a problem remembering the little things in
    	life. (I have a hard time remembering the numbers long enough
    	to write them down, but also trying to bring these #'s in to
    	work at	6:00 AM.)
    
    - 	It could be that many people have real hot spots that thay don't
    	want to share with anyone else. (I will confess to this one,
    	I do have one spot that I won't share, it is the only place
    	that I can catch any large cod, large= over 50 lbs. )
    
    	
    So I'll start entering numbers for ledges of the NH/Mass coast,
    but the easy way is to fish on top or and the side of any high 
    spot that comes up out of deep water. Just look at the chart,
    when you see a depth number printed in a flat area, it is some
    type of peak.
    
    Steve 

    I have to agree with steve about finding cod on the sides of hills.
    Most of the spots that I have I found myself using a chart and my
    paper machine. I will be starting this same process this spring
    as I expore the offshore ledges. Once you find a spot you then get
    the numbers. I do not have any problem sharing hot spots with other
    fisherman because I do not think rod and reel fisherman can really
    impact an area of fishing. However I would die before giving up
    numbers to a gill netter!
    
    Bruce

  re:10
    	You brought up a good point about putting hot spots in a public
    notes file. You never know if one of the people reading this file
    has a friend or relative that is a gill netter.
    
    	Just a suggestion but if you really want to share this type
    of information it is probably best to use this file to co-ordinate
    a meeting and exchange info over a couple'a brewski's.

    RAYJ
    
    P.S. Almost every avid fisher-person has a honey-hole or two that they
    like keep to themselves. I see nothing wrong with that. If you put
    in the time and paid your dues then you should reap the benifits.
    However, since an objective of this file is the exchange of fishing
    information, maybe a honey-hole exchange might be the way to go 
    (outside of a public file of course).

    Last weekend was my first experience with LORAN for fishing and
    I couldn't believe how much it helped! I fished with a buddy on
    Ontario for Salmon. He punched in his favorite honey-hole and off
    we went (at 52 mph). A little while later the unit started beeping
    at me indicating .2 miles to our spot. We slowed to 2 mph and started
    rigging lines. for 45 minutes, we couldn't get all the lines down
    due to "Fish on". Honest!! I'd set one downrigger and it would release
    befor I could get the next one set. This went on for 45 minutes
    and 6 Salmon!
    I'm hooked. Where can I get a good buy on a small (size) LORAN?
    
    Don

    Hi Folks, I thought I'd try and revive this note again. I realize that
    you may have some hot spots you'd like to keep to yourselves. I
    recently put a loran on my boat, and have just started my log book.
    I'd be willing to trade a few numbers I've collected over the last
    month out on Scarlets ledge for some td's on the SW corner at
    Stellwagon. If you'd like to do a few trades you can send me mail
    on CADSYS::BROPHY.
    
    Mike