Conference wahoo::fishing

    
    Alright, so I like to gossip...........:^)
    
    Any of you seen the new "fish" stamps that just came out?? Five
    new stamps featuring the Muskellunge, Atlantic Cod, LARGEMOUTH BASS,
    Bluefin Tuna and Catfish have been issued by our wonderful postal
    dept. Sorry to all you trout and salmon guys, but you already had
    your day in the sun way back in '56 for the salmon and '71 for the
    trout. Of course those were 3 and 8 cent stamps. Boy, was it really
    ever that cheap?
    
    So now, the bass is going to help carry the mail.....:^)
    
    Tight lines, Ron :^) grinning all the way......
    
    ps. Both these last two notes were courtesy of Bassmaster Magazine.

    			A FISH STORY TO END ALL FISH STORIES
			------------------------------------

	This is the story of how the world record Bass was caught 
	back in 1932. I thought that some members of this conference  
	might like to know how it happened. I have copied this from 
	an article in Bassmaster Magazine without permission.

	To give an intro to the article, Bassmaster has done a picture
	layout of what is must have been like for George Perry back in
	30's using Jack Chancellor (the 1985 Bass Masters Champion)
	in the role of George. The pictures are quite neat and show the
	area the fish was caught in. I haven't copied the entire article,
	only the story part. There is more info on how to get there and
	what its like today.....if you're interested, mail me a note.


	 "The year: 1932. Times were tough in south Georgia. And George
	W. Perry, a 19 year old farm boy, had a job to do.
	 "He was going fishing. Not for fun, but for food. The Great De-
	pression held a death grip on the country, and down Georgia
	way, if you didn't grow it, trap it, or catch it.....very often 
	you went hungry,
	 "The season for bass had just opened (yes, Georgia had a bass
	season back in '32) and Perry knew where to go to catch a mess
	of "green trout," as largemouth bass were called back then. He
	headed for the Ocmulgee River, putting in at Lumber City.
	 "Seven fruitless miles of casting later, George W. Perry made
	what was to become a very big decision. he decided to try an
	oxbow off the river know locally as "Montgomery Lake." Montgomery
	Lake could hardly be called a lake at all. It was a cresent-
	shaped pond, a mere slough. Durning times of high water, you
	could reach it quite easily from the Ocmulgee. When the water
	was down, you had to drag your boat in or walk in on foot....
	and watch for the rattlesnakes every step of the way.
	 "Perry fished Montgomery Lake that day, and caught and landed
	America's dream fish: the world record bass. A 22-pound, 4-
	ounce giant of a bass. A bass so big that the standard it set 
	remains unmatched to this day. 
		((Perry was quoted as saying, "I noticed a small distubance
		 next to a log..")-- from a 1975 Field and Stream -- Ron))
	 "Perry did it not with an arsenal of electronic gear, a high
	speed bass boat or a tacklebox full of baits. He owned but one
	lure: a battered Creek Chub Wiggle-Fish in the perch-scale pat-
	tern. His "kit" rod and reel would be the equivalent of a cheap
	outfit purchased at a discount store today.
	 "Perhaps the fact that George Perry caught a world record bass
	- George Perry, a poor farm boy - makes this angling achievement
	all the more meaningful. For the largemouth bass is not the 
	sportfish of aristocrats or kings - let them have their black
	marlin and bluefins. The bass is an everyday fish, for every-
	day people. And, like that Georgia farm boy back in '32, the
	bass is tenacious and tough. It doesn't give up easily. It's
	a fighter."
					written by Don Wirth for
					Bassmasters Magazine May/June 1986

	
	Tight lines, Ron
    

    
    There are actually several ways to determine the age of a fish.
    The easiest is to count the circuli on a scale. Take a scale from
    the middle region of the side of the body. Let it dry. If you look
    at it against a light you will see a series of fine ridges deposited
    on the scale thoughout the year. But if you look real close you
    will see that these circuli are layed closer together at certain
    points on the scale. This is due to the slower growth rate in winter.
    All you need do is count these "bunched up" rings and you have the
    fishs' age. You might be surprised but what you find.
    
    Most people don't realize that fish actually live longer in the
    north than in the south. A largemouth bass in the north will live
    14-16 years while in the south it will only live 9-12 years.
    Walleye in the north live 15-17 years and in the south only 10-12.
    Nothern Pike and Muskies have about the same life span as Walleyes.
    Crappie live about 4-7 years, Blue gills 5-8 and White bass about
    3-8 years. Of course conditions contribute greatly to how long.
    
    There's a formula for figuring out the condition of the fish you
    catch. Multiply the weight in pounds by 10,000 and divide by the
    length in inches cubed. i.e. if a fish is 10 inches long you get
    1000, if its 3 inches long you get 27. For fish like Walleye and
    Bass a factor of less than 4.5 denotes poor condition, above 5.5
    very good condition. For compressed fish such as Crappie a factor
    below 7 would be poor and above 8, very good.

    Hope someone finds this interesting and useful.
    
    Tight lines, Ron    

    Dese foonchock Texyans!! Chure chou kin ketch 16-18 pund bass chere
    if chou wanna 1)buy a pond an fill it wit Floride bass, feed dem
    an wate for 8 yeers, or 2)go out in Lake Roy Hobbard in Januery
    an freez yore tutu off fishin 40 feets down!! Dey always lak to
    be de bigges and best tho..
    

    
Ref: .2, I do beleive old George also had the distinct pleasure of EATING
    the largest bass ever caught in America..........to bad, woulda
    made a nice mount.....
    
                                                     Tight lines 
    
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	Re: Many Entries in this file...........

	An earlier attempt was made regarding the use of all uppercase
	notes, but it wasn't too direct; so I'll take the responsibility
	to ask all of you to *please* use lower case characters both in your
	titles and the body of your text (observing the usual rules of
	captialization).  Reading more than just a few words in all
	uppercase is hard on the eyes and is a convention typically
	reserved to let others know you're SHOUTING (usually done in
	"flame mode" to let others know they can skip on to the next
	unseen entry if they don't want to read your "flame"). 
	
	I think you'll attract more replies if you try this.
	
	Thanks, Tight lines, Ron

    Ron,
    
     I sent in my form to sign up for B.A.S.S. about two months ago
    and still have not recived anything from them, I was wondering did
    you get your free hat? I don't know if it got lost in the mail or
    if they just didn't like my application 8*), I have not checked
    to see if the money order has been cashed or not but I will soon.
    Ron could you please list their address here so I can send them
    a letter and ask what the deal is thank you.
    
     BTW. I guess some people have not read note 101.6 because I have
    read about 10 notes today that are all in uppercase letters, I had to
    get out my sun glasses after the second one. I'll tell you those
    guys are lucky they don't write in the sports note file they would
    change their ways real fast just from peer presure they are real
    tough about shouting in there. well I hope i get my B.A.S.S. membership
    soon, please post the address once more.
    
    
                                Thank you much and tight lines,
    
                                     Jack Hunter

    Jack, it took me quite awhile to get my first issue (and free stuff)
   too, maybe not 2 months, but close...		don mac

    1985 proved to be another record year for Massachusetts.  Three
    state records were broken as follows:
    
    Landlocked Salmon   Richard Gagne    10 lb. 8 oz.   29 inches
    
    Bullhead            Roger Aziz, Jr.   3 lb. 8 oz.   17.5 inches
    
    Tiger Muskie        Tom Conners      18 lb. 12 oz.  38.5 inches
    
    They're out there now if only I could catch them! :-(
    
    Steve   

    Jack,
    
    No, I didn't get anything yet and I too was wondering a little.
    It does take some time, but this is just a little long, even for
    them. (maybe they're just overwhelmed)?
    
    Here's the address:	
    			Bass Anglers Sportsman Society
    			P.O. Box 17116
    			Montgomery, Alabama 36141
    
    I also have noticed that there is still some shouting going on here. I
    guess that some of the notes are just being skipped over or not
    read fully. It is hard on the eyes and I regret that I mostly just
    skip over those that are in CAPS (therefore missing something).
    It will take some time I suppose for it to sink in. Maybe we should
    start being more forthright, like they are in the Sports Note.
    
    For those that still like to use caps, please stop and have the
    common courtesy to follow the rules of good noting. Thankyou.
    
    Tight lines, Ron
    

    This is not to give any info, but to request some.
    
    My fishing buddies and I want to go to Tully Lake in Royalston this
    coming weekend and would like anyone who is familar with the lake
    to give us some info on what to expect.
    
    I have the map and the location and can get there, but don't know
    if the ramp is suitable for my boat or if the fishing in this lake
    is worth the trip. My info states that it is a softwater lake and
    that is not the best water in the world for good fish productivity.
    It looks good with several small islands and coves to get to with
    stumps and such to work.
    
    Any help would be appreciated. Tight lines, Ron
    

    
    Well now, here's the report on Tully Lake and how we made out this
    Sat. First things first. This has to be the best Crappie lake I've
    come across yet. Great size to them and very plentiful. Unfortunitly
    we didn't see all that many bass. We caught one little 12" female
    and that was it. We saw quite a few on the stumps (that this lake
    is loaded with) but all were smallish and none of them seemed hungry.
    Water temp was in the low sixties and they were not spawning yet.
    The info I got indicated that there are some big ones here, but you
    can't prove that by our results. The Crappie were on the beds in
    small holes around the stumps. Plenty of coves and such to fish
    here. 
    
    We only fished two coves and one shore-line on the north end
    and then we went up the river and "explored" the area. We managed
    to make it all the way up to Long Pond, but not without some real slick
    paddle work. Lots of rocks (big ones) in the river channel before
    it widens out. Then you can run the entire stretch. I want to add
    that we spent quite a bit of time in Long Pond just leaning back
    and enjoying the scenery. It is really up in the hills and away
    from everything. No nothing, except for a couple of canoeists.
    I have the feeling that this area is really underfished and anyone
    with a small boat can get in here very easy and not be bothered
    by skiiers or hot rodders. If you want a nice pleasant day and some
    decent fishing for smaller type fish, I would highly recommend going
    here. The bigger ones are there I think, and it will just take a
    while to learn the lake and locate them.
    
    For larger boats, be slightly cautious. The boat ramp by the dam
    is gravel and while we had no problem lauching, we had some fun
    recovering the boat. Spinning tires and throwing a lot of pebbles
    back at the boat before we finally got it out. Just a tad worry-some.
    A four-wheel drive would make things a lot easier.
    
    Bottom line is we will go back. There is a lot of this lake and
    river that we didn't get to and would like to try out.
    
    Tight lines, Ron
    
 

    With all the discussion on the "tournement" going on, there hasn't
    been to much said on the "fishing" part of this file, except for
    a couple of lines on salt water fishing and a nice sounding lake
    in Maine.
    
    So, I thought that I'd throw something in here of general interest.
    I just received my latest addition of Bassmasters and it had a few
    interesting articles in it. One of them on summer fishing I'll crib
    later and put in the Bass Note, but of general nature here are some
    things that you might find of interest.
    
    A 10 lb 8 oz Smallmouth was caught at Dale Hallow Resv. by a guy
    who didn't even realize that it could have been a world record if
    he had only had it weighed on a "certified scale" when he caught
    it. The world record is 11-5, and was caught at the same place.
    It was finally registered at the above weight for a 8 lb line record
    but, I don't think they will allow it as it wasn't "certified".
    As it stands, it's the third largest smallmouth ever caught. (some
    people have all the luck)
    
    More later, Tight lines, Ron

    		Re: 101.9
    
    	It was mentioned that a record bullhead and tiger muskie was
    caught in Mass. in 1985. Did you happen to know where ? The tiger
    muskie in particular interests me as Kenoza Lake in Haverhill was
    stocked with them a few years back. They had a water problem supposedly
    due to to many fish. They stocked the tiger muskies to eat all the
    other fish and also supposedly tiger muskies don't breed land-locked.
    If so, these fish would be huge as there is an almost unlimited
    supply of yellow perch, sunfish, largemouths, pikeral, and I think
    pike also. Unfortunatly it is illegal to fish, camp, hunt, or boat
    at Kenoza as it is one of Haverhills water supply's. I used to fish
    it anyway as a kid and got caught a couple of times and got your
    basic slap on the wrist. The game warden I guess figured as kids
    we could be causing much more trouble than fishing someplace we
    weren't supposed to. As far as the bullhead, we also used to catch
    either these, or catfish, (not sure of difference), that size and
    larger down the Merrimack River. I wouldn't eat anything out of
    there but the fishing was excellent. Used to catch stripers,
    smallmouths, carp, and catfish(?). My biggest fish ever from the
    Merrimack was a 42 1/2 in. carp, (didn't weigh it). Might of had
    some kind of record but back then we never even thought about stuff
    like that. Well enough said......happy fishing.......RAYJ

    That's what I love about this state so much.......stock a lake with
    game fish that nobody can fish in.......makes perfect sense, if
    you're a bird watcher.......
    
    Oh, the tigermuskie is a "crossbreed" and therefore can't reproduce.
    Has nothing that I know of to do with being land-locked. Like a
    mule. No pun intended.
    
    As a complete aside to this subject, my girlfriend, who is a writer
    by profression, gave me the word for all this "fun" I'm having as 
    HALIEUTICS.....which is defined as, "the art or practice of fishing."
    So, I'm sure that all of you feel much better now knowing that.
    :^) I wonder what that makes me? A halieultic-tic? or haieultic-er?
        
    Tight lines, Ron

    re:14 
    
    I've been trying to dig up where I got that info because I know
    they had the locations with them also.   There is another note in
    this conference on tiger muskies which mentions some places.  I
    do know that the previous record caught in 1984 came out of Cook
    Pond, but I do not know where that pond is!  As mentioned, the tiger
    is a cross between a male northern pike and a female muskellunge.
    The true muskie can be spotted, barred, or just silvery on the sides.
    The tiger has definate wavy tiger stripes along the sides making
    it a more desirable fish for some to have mounted.
    
    You might have had something there in the form of a record.  The
    carp record caught in 1983 from the Connecticut River was 31 lbs
    8 oz.(no length given).  As far as the bullheads go, larger ones
    have been reported and rejected from the awards program due to lack
    of documentation and identification.  It seems that there can be
    a close resemblance to white catfish which is a larger fish.  It
    is mandatory to have very clear, close-up photographs of the fish
    to submit to the program.  To be sure, throw the fish in a freezer
    also.
                                                      
    Steve
         

    Just came across this article that my lady sent me. Thought I'd throw
    it in here for your amusement(??).
    
    Tight lines, Ron
    
    
Associated Press Fri 08-AUG-1986 08:13                              Fishermen

   MOD LIVING TTS 8-10
HEAD: Fishermen Are Study Subject of Sociologist
   ---
                           By ROBERT GREENE
                        Associated Press Writer
   ALLIANCE, Ohio (AP) - As an avid angler, sociology professor
Jeffery Hahn could write a book on what makes bass and musky tick.
   But Hahn, who runs the sociology department at Mount Union
College, has held true to his discipline by studying what goes on at
the human end of the fishing line.
   More specifically, he is taking a close look at bass anglers,
especially the competitive ones who are the Type A's of sport
fishing. The bass anglers are also part of one of the
fastest-growing types of fishing in the last 15 years.
   Hahn's choice of subject says something about changes in fishing.
Just as people in all kinds of endeavors, anglers are specializing.
   That point came up in a meeting this spring with the handful of
sociologists who study anglers, said Hahn, 34, in a recent interview.
   ``One thing that really dominated our conversation was that
people do not identify themselves simply as fishermen any more,'' he
said. ``They're bass fishermen. They're salmon fishermen.
   ``We're all pretty much convinced that wasn't the case 30 years
ago. People fished, and they fished primarily for meat. And other
than species that they just wouldn't eat, anything would do for the
stringer and on the table.''
   Without passing judgment on the results, Hahn says his recent
study shows that the fanatical bass fisherman may be squeezing his
family, or at least his wife, out of any fishing action, even when
she fishes.
   ``It appears that what these guys are doing is enjoying
occasional trips with their children but trying to avoid trips with
their wife,'' he said. Children were taken along on 10.2 percent of
the fishing trips in the study period, while spouses went along only
6.5 percent of the time.
   Hahn is intrigued by the results, part of a projected larger
study on angler satisfaction, because a number of magazines devoted
to the sport stress the need to teach it to children and promote
fishing schools and camps. He suggested in his study that publishers
might realize that male devotees have been negligent.
   ``Interestingly, these sources have little to say regarding
fishing with one's spouse,'' Hahn noted in his study.
   Hahn learned to fish by going on trips with his family, and he
speaks fondly of those outings and how they brought everyone
together. But he also knows he's become specialized, while his
brother and father are still ``meat fishermen.''
   The study leaves room for some technical and physical
explanations of what appears to be a case of rampant chauvinism, or
at least for exceptions to the rule when you look at all the
specialties.
   ``In a bass boat that's really designed for two people, you kind
of have to be a participant in order to be in the boat,'' Hahn said.
   As bass anglers know, their kind of fishing requires constant
casting, accounting for wind shifts, manipulation of a
foot-controlled electric motor, and breakneck-speed trips from one
end of the lake to the other, depending on where the fishing might
heat up. Since the specialists can't seem to get out of the
competitive mode of thinking even during leisurely outings, the
compulsive behavior tends to dominate the family trip, Hahn said.
   On the other hand, Hahn says some research indicates that
competitive salmon anglers who fish on the Great Lakes or the oceans
can bring the family along, because the boats are large enough for
the non-fishing family members to read or play games.
   Hahn says maybe a detailed study of competitive walleye anglers,
who fish both inland waters and the Great Lakes, could help solve
the riddle.
   There were too few women in the sample for any meaningful
conclusions to be drawn about them, he said. Hahn surveyed members
of the Research Angler Team, a group of anglers formed by Alabama
fishing guru Tom Mann.
    

    The article has some good points.  But there are some things I disagree
    with.  I've been fishing for a long time for bass and other fish
    and have always done fine in my little puddle jumper boat with
    the one lunger outboard.  I may have done better in a specialized
    boat like a Ranger, but looking back I've done OK.  When they're
    not biting, they're not biting.  When they are, they don't know
    what boat's up there.  As for screaming from one end of the lake
    to the other for spot that may have heated up, well I can't do that,
    but if I need that speed because of the distance, then I've
    found that type of lake isn't the best place to look for bass. 
    I like to troll for salmon, where my small, low speed boat is perfect.
    When they're not biting, then I can run up to the weeds, pull the
    motor up and paddle through them to the "right spot".  The article
    seems to be talking more about big stakes tourney fishing rather
    than us weekenders.  
    
    Wives:  Well I'm not married so I can't say why they aren't taken
    along.  But I've dated a number of women over the years and I've only met
    one that ever WANTED to go fishing.  I've always asked them to come
    but, they don't like worms, touching fish, the spines, the smelt
    bait, the early hours, blood, etc etc.  Whereas kids will pick up anything,
    living or dead.  I think that's why the kids go and the women don't.
    
    I'd love to find someone that will fish all day with me, put on
    their own bait, take off their own catch and run the motor once
    in a while, but they are few and far between.
    
    my .02
    
    --Chris
                                                   

    Cathy comes out with me once and awhile, if it's a real nice day.
    She's only "gone fishing" with me a couple times, the rest of the 
    time she's just out for the sun (and the thrill of watching me
    land all them HAWGS!)            
                             
    But, I guess NOW I have to `fess up... Out of the two times she's
    fished this year... She skunked me once...!
                          
    Don Mac               
                          
    Ok, Joe... go ahead...  
    

    You must be a glutton for punishment, Don....
    
    I guess Cathy doesn't get thrilled too often seeing as you rarely
    catch "hawgs"!
    
    (humm....I seem to recall you did get a small 6lber this year
    though...oh  well....accidents do happen!)
    
    -HoleShot-
    
    

    That's the other end of the spectrum Joe and Don. Chris makes the
    point though, women "usually" dont' want to go fishing with the
    boys (kids) etc. I was married to an exception once, and it was
    fun. But my experience since is, they really don't want to.
    
    The article, by the way Chris, was talking about "class A" type
    fisherpersons. These are the REAL diehards, and not like most of
    us. I'm really close myself, but fall into the class B type. For-
    give me, but you sound more like a class B or class C type, and
    that means you wouldn't come close to the people in the article.
    
    For what it's worth, Tight lines, Ron

    Re:-1
    
    No forgiveness needed Ron.  I sure ain't a "class A"!  The motors on
    some of those rigs would SINK my boat!  :^)   The point I was also
    trying to make on the article was that they didn't get the whole
    story:  women who don't go along because they don't want to!  I
    do see a fair amount of women out on the water fishing along with
    the boys, but they are the exception rather than the rule.  I don't
    want to lump all women in the same category, and I'm sure there are
    lots that aren't even asked.  I think part of it too might be that
    they decline because they've never been taught and don't want to
    be embarassed by the first botched attempts at casting (which we've
    all had) or worms that go flying off the hook when that pole is
    flicked, so they decline.  I wish more would come along, it's a
    nice peaceful way to spend time together.
    
    --Chris                                          

    I saw this in the back of this weeks TV guide.
    
    If you wish to be happy for one hour, get intoxicated.
    If you wish to happy for three days, get married.
    If you wish to be happy for eight days, kill your pig and eat it.
    If you wish to be happy forever, learn to fish.
    
                                      - Ancient Chinese proverb
    
    Of course the story that follows tells otherwise.  You can now watch
    fishing on television.
    
    Mike_L

    
    
    
    
                                   wow

      I don't know if this is the right place for this note or not,
    but here goes......
    
      I like the new note 555 (directory assistance), BUT how do you go
    about skipping over those notes, and not miss other notes entered
    around that time??? Can you "set seen" on just one topic??? There
    must be an easier way that hitting "next unseen" or "next reply"
    139 times. Topic 555 has 139 (I think??) topics in it, and when I
    exit from notes, I see that I have 142 notes unseen/not read. How
    do I see the other 3 notes???
    
      Please forgive this relatively new noter for this probably very
    simple question, but I couldn't find a solution in HELP.
    
    -Ron-
    
    
    Now I gotta hit "next unseen" 139 times to read the replies to this
    topic. :-(

    HIT THE NEXT NEW NOTE KEY, ITS THE KEY ON THE KEY PAD RIGHT ABOVE
    THE ENTER KEY, " , "  THIS WILL BY PASS ALL THE REPLIES IN THAT
    NOTE AND MOVE YOU TO THE NEXT NEW REPLY IN ANOTHER NOTE.
    
    
    LES
    MR. BASS

    Les,
    
      Thanks. my first thought when I read your reply was that i had
    already tried that. But what i did was to get to around note 555.10,
    skip directly to 555.136 (last in that topic reply), and then hit
    the "next unseen" key (which is the same key you listed as being
    "next new note"). When I hit it, it took me directly to 555.11.
    Then I tried hitting that key from 555.11, and it worked like you
    said. Oh well, you learn something new every day!!!
    
    -Ron-
    

    Any Walden Pond fishermen out there?  I've got a couple questions.
    Is it iced out yet, and is it MDC controled?  Any horsepower
    restrictions?
    
    Thanks
    Gone fishin

re .28
Walden Pond has a boat ramp but does not allow gas (or other internal combustion
engines). 
It is heavily stocked with trout and I have seen some of the "sportmen" 
throwing gravel into the water to emulate the fish food hitting the surface
that the fish are accustomed to from the hatchery.

    i was at the bait shop yesterday and they had a picture of a 4 Lb brown
    taken from Walden on Sunday.
    
    Les

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    ships with the Hook Honer sharpener? I was cleaning out my tackle box
    after christmas and notice that the battery was dead so I was going to
    check how long to it takes to charge it back up. Well I can't seem to
    find my copy (I think it's in my boat) so if someone could send me a 
    copy I would appreciate it very much.
    
    Thanks!
    
    Bass-O-Matic
    
    Send to: Martial Vachon DDD/W10

re: .31  

I also have the Lansky sharpening kit, although I picked it up for $25.  
I agree that it is one of the best knife sharpening kits I've ever used and
I would strongly recommend it to anyone who hates dull knives.  It puts a 
perfect edge on almost any knife...to the point where you CAN shave with it.

-HSJ-

    I've got one.  They're great.  I got the set with stones.  Then I
    bought a diamond "stone" in "fine".  I grind them down with the coarse
    stones and then switch to diamond for the finishing edge.  Wow!
    
    /brett
    

 Where does one obtain such a device?

Re: .35

> Where does one obtain such a device?



    Call and ask them to send you their brochure and order info.


                         LANSKY  SHARPENERS
             Post Office Box 800, Buffalo, New York 14221
                           (716) 634-6333

                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



    They ship UPS.


Re: .33

	Lansky sells several 'systems' - a three stone system for ~ $25.00
                                         a  five stone system for ~ $40.00
                                         a     DIAMOND system for ~ $90.00

        They also sell individual stones so you can 'mix and match' as per
    .34


    I've got the five stonner.

	Gander Mountain has the three stone kit for 24.99 and the 
	4 diamond stone kit for 49.99.

	BPS has a similar kit by GATCO with three stones for 24.88.

    Isn't Gander Mountain a catalog house...assuming this is the case
    whose (what manufacturer) stones are they.?
    
    /MArk

    The Bandit and I had a question. Say the legend bought one of these.
    Does the kit come with enough direction so a mechanical nincomepoop
    figure out how to sharpen a knife? Or is ANOTHER skill required.
    Could the Bandit and I accomplish a sharp edge then?

                     <<< Note 101.37 by CSC32::G_ROBERTS >>>
                       -< BPS and Gander Mtn have them >-

	Gander Mountain has the three stone Lansky kit for 24.99 
	catalog number 857 K 0600
	and the 4 diamond stone Lnasky kit for 49.99 catalog number 857 K 0603
	in the 1990 fall/winter catalog 1-800-558-9410

	BPS has a similar kit by GATCO with three stones for 24.88
	catalog number T629-100  1-800-227-7776

	The above prices might have changed as of first of year.

    
    I just happened to be in the market for a good sharpenning kit
    when you guys brought this up.
    
    Anyway, I called the company yesterday afternoon, spoke to a
    Dick Hendricks, who is the customer relations man and as he
    says - "an avid fisherman who hates dull knives" - , and he
    said that they are currently negotiating with B.P.S. to have
    thier product in the new catalog.  Also he is sending me all
    of the literature on thier products.  Stated that the best
    price will be from B.P.S.  Only about $4.00 on the small kit,
    so if your not in a hurry - ,,,   
    
    I'm going to wait for the catalog, so long as it doesn't
    come out in june.
    
    In the meantime, if any of you (ahem) gentlemen, ladies also,
    would like copies of whatever info that I get, drop a note
    thru vaxmail.
    
    I saw  bunch of kids playing hockey at the old trout hatchery
    ponds in Sutton, Ma. yesterday afternoon enroute home. Things 
    are looking up!!  And with reference to the note on where ice
    forms first, these kids were set up on the south side where
    there's plenty of shade from the tall trees.
    
    Fred

    As far as ease of operation goes...yes, anybody can obtain a good edge
    using this system. I saw a similiar unit at K-Mart. I paid around $19
    for it. It is a 3 stone system, all mounted on one handle. Not sure of 
    the brand name but I have used both and the end results are identical.
    The only difference between the two is that the Lansky has more 
    comfortable handles on each individual stone. Other than that the 2
    systems are the same.
    
    
                                                  Jeff