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Lower Merrimack Valley Trout Unlimited President is Jim Norton, 9 Sirod Rd,
Windham, NH 03087. Sorry, I don't have his phone # - call information.

- Dave
	

    Is it possible that none of the folks who frequent this file belong to
    a Trout Unlimited chapter?
    
    These guys not only fish, they also help the state(s) monitor fish
    populations in "scientific" studies. I'm surprised nobody responded to
    the request in .0 of this note.
    
    These guys aren't "trout only." I can tell you that they also have some
    great buys on lures and flies at some of their meetings.....
    
    John H-C

    
    	John,  try the Flyfishing notesfile...  Trout unlimited is
    an elitist organization geared more toward flyfisherpersons.

    I went to a fishing convention this weekend, and there was a trout
    unlimited booth there.  Since I am a trout fisherman, I showed interest
    in them until they said that their organization was mainly geared
    towards flyfishing.
    
    I am not a flyfisherman, I fish by lures and sometimes bait.  I really
    did not appreciate a fishing organization frowning on someone who
    fishes for the same kind of fish, just using different methods.  They
    might do alot for trout fishing, but so do my fees for my trout fishing
    license.  I am not anti trout unlimited by any means, I just didn't
    appreciate  being looked DOWN on for fishing with lures and not flies.
    
    Bob
    
    Btw, what is the node for "flyfishing".  I might gain interest in it.
    

 DNEAST::FLYFISH

    Flyfishing used to be on MTBLUE. I've been a TU guy in the past, and I
    think it's a fine organization. They do a lot of lobbying on nature
    conservancy and against dams (Where dams don't make sense). They also
    do a lot of habitat reconstruction (Stream clean-up and rebuilding).
    They have an excellent magazine, too, and for the money it's a hard
    organization to beat.
    
     Re: elitists - yeah, unfortunately they have a few elitist dorks, but
    I just figgger "Different strokes..." and ignore 'em. The goals of TU
    are in the right place (Like "Catch and release"), so I try to view it
    on a larger scale. If someone wants to only fish size 24 trico's on 7x
    tippets - fine. Just don't boo me for not choosing the same modus
    operandi. I'd recommend you join for a year and give it a try. You'll
    learn some good things about trout and where/how they live that will
    help you whether you fly fish, spin fish or drown worms.
    
    --The Skoal Bandit

    
     I'm not sure if this is the right spot for this subject matter but
     check this out. I don't concider myself a big time trout fisherman,
     but I do a fair amount in the spring. I've cought my share of trout
     over the years but I've never seen this. Yesterday after work I went
     to do a little "bassin" at Whitehall Res. in Hopkington Ma. After
     about an Hour of fishing I hook into a 14" brook trout (3" plastic
     craw). No big deal..but heres the kicker!! It was loaded with fresh
     water snails in its stomach!!  I am totally baffled. 
    
                                           Help me out on this one.
                                                        K'
     P.S. H-C I need you on this one.
                     thanks,, 

    The snails must have resembled Purina Trout Chow...
    
    -donmac

    
     Good one Mac!! I'm serious are snails part of there daily
     food chain. ?  I don't think so. 
     
                                                    k'
    

    In a recent issue of Fly Fisherman Magazine, Gary Borger listed his
    eight most used flies.  One is a snail imitation.  Snail are most 
    certainly a "normal" natural feed for trout.
    
    Greg

    
    This reminds of a story I heard/read somewhere a long time ago about
    two guys who went fishing and one of them caught a nice trout and
    slit it's belly open to see what it had been eating. The belly was
    full of grubs or so the guy claimed till he went up stream and found
    a dead cow half in the water and covered with maggots.
    
                                                      Walt

    A hungry fish will eat *anything,* including cigarette butts. Many of
    the places that are stocked for put-and-take fishing don't have enough
    food for the fish in the ecoweb, and many are just too uninhabitable
    for the fish. (Yesterday on a 25-minute dive in White Pond, I counted a
    dozen intact trout corpses, dead of starvation, anoxia, poisoning, or
    something else.)
    
    I'm not surprized to read that you found a trout full of snails, but
    now I find myself wondering whether a trout can digest the snail, shell
    and all.
    
    Just out of curiosity, how big were the snails? Were they the
    conispiral or planispiral kind?
    
    John H-C
    
    P.S. I've never seen a fish take a "normal" adult snail, though I have
    seen foraging red breast sunfish pick tiny snails off vegetation.
    Crayfish are big on consuming snails. FWIW, crayfish shells are mostly
    chitin, where as snail and mussel shells are mostly calcium. (Using the
    word "mostly" pretty loosely here.)

    re.11
    
    Thanks for sharing that with us Walt.  Great lunch time reading.  Geez
    I don't seem to finishing all of my rice...
    
    -donmac

    
         Wow !!
    
            H-C Do you really know your snails ?? Jonh your amazing!!
         I can't belive you know the different types of snails. Can
         you pick fly poop out of peper??  Boy I really wish I could
         tell ya which type thay were but I'd be shooting from the 
         hip. If you'ld like I could put a couple in a zip-lock and
         send them in a inter-departmental envolope. As far as the
         size gos there very small, and would'nt be a problem passing
         threw the vent of the fish.
                                                   Thanks H-C
                                                        K'
           

    Ooops! Sorry about "planispiral" and "conispiral." Were they all the
    same *kind* of snail?
    
    (Yeah, I pay quite a bit of attention to snails on surveys. Type and
    location of snails is one of the top five things I ask divers to look
    for on freshwater surveys.)