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    Jim Blum asked me to put a short synopsis in here regarding the test of
    the Graupner New Match from the last Aufwind edition.
    
    Well, it's gonna be short since I don't remember too many details off
    hand.
    
    The New Match is designed as a 7-8 cell hotliner, making hot electric
    flying affordable. It is available in Germany around DM 200 (roughly
    $ 125). It is controlled by aileron (flaperon if you want), elevator,
    motor control and (optional) rudder. It has a wingspan of 1.5 m (59"). 
    
    The fuselage is the well known Graupner plastic (like ABS) fuse, the
    same material as used on the Elektro-UHU and the Chili (and others that
    use the same fuselages). In this case, it is an amazingly small one and
    exactly the same as used on the Biene (6-cell softliner) and Solar-UHU
    (first commercially available solar glider to be buffered with 6 cell
    NiCd).
    
    The fuse was the biggest point of criticism in the review. It has a
    nice layout, but the wall thickness is more than on the other Graupner
    fuses and it seems more elastic. Seems they did both to reduce the
    brittleness in winter (see another note on this issue), but it made the
    fuse come out heavy (160 g/5.6 oz). I guess a similar fiberglass fuse
    could be made to 80 g, a composite with Kevlar or carbon probably for
    50 g. The author suggested this in the report, and since Graupner
    already responded to the customer requests by offering a fiberglass
    fuselage for the Chili, it might come true some day. A guy in a local
    club here is already doing fiberglass fuses for the New Match as well, 
    but that is another DM 80...
    
    The wings are fairly small, too, thin airfoil (don't remember, RG15 of
    HQ something), foam sheeted with balsa. Ailerons extend over nearly the
    full span and need a wing micro servo. (Be aware that you need 3 or
    even 4 micro servos - in case you want to control the rudder, too).
    You can use the ailerons as flaperons if your radio allows you to do so. 
    
    The kit doesn't need much work since all parts are prepared very well.
    The wings in the testkit had slightly different thicknesses, Graupner
    was made aware of the bug and it is fixed in more recent kits. It did
    not hurt the flying of the testplane either.
    
    The plane was first tested with an Astro 05 FAI and was pretty
    impressive. Not quite F3E, but - especially if you use the flaps option
    - enormous speed range. He also tested the Graupner Speed 700 - to test
    Graupners claim to have a cheap hotliner. It was still nice, but you
    don't want to try it if you ran a cobalt motor before. He also tested
    the Ultra 900 which was also very impressive.
    
    The wings itself are not too stiff, so he claims you can see them flex,
    but they don't flutter.
    
    A nice thing is that - with the way Graupner built several models
    around the same fuse - you can built up a Biene or Solar UHU wing and
    use the same fuse for a very different purpose. Or get a new fuse,
    build it as a glider, and you have a hot slope soarer, the BAT (news
    item of 1993, see .0 of this notes string).
    
    This is about all I remember, please ask specific questions, and I'll
    look up the report again.
    
    Best regards,
                   Hartmut

    Hartmut,
    
           Thanks for the report.  I am getting quite frustrated seeing
    interesting articles in AUFWIND but not really being able to make 
    much sense of the text.  Kind of like a little kid looking at pictures
    in a book!
    
    Did the article mention the possibilty of squeezing more than 7 cells
    into the fuselage?  Was the final flying weight given.  Are separate
    servos for each wing recommended?
    
    The new Hobby Lobby catalog is billing this ship as the one that will
    convert glo fliers to electric.
    
         
                                                         Thanks,
    
                                                         Jim

    Jim,
    
    I'll have to look up the final flying weight.
    
    I know positively that people fly it on 8  (probably 1000 mAh) cells. I
    don't think you get any more in. Or more than 7 sub-C size
    (1200/1400/1800 whatever they are now).
    
    The is no other way than putting the aileron servos into the wings.
    There is no room in the small fuse, the battery goes between the wings.
    Also, you need micro servos in the fuse as well. The author even had to
    replace his 4 mm gold connectors for the batteries because of space
    restrictions. I had the fuse in my hands recently, I'd say it's more a
    WACO than a Elektro-UHU. A lot better access through the canopy than
    the WACO has, though.
    
    Best regards,
                   Hartmut

    Jim,
    
    I have the article with me now. A few corrections to be made:
    
    the all up weight of the test plane (with ASTRO 05 FAI, 7 cells
    Panasonic Red Amp plus, 8*5 folding prop from aeronaut) was 1230 g
    (43.4 oz). He talks about 250 Watt, so he must have a current of nearly
    30 A on 8.4 V.
    
    He tried the Speed 600 8.4 V too, and states that if you don't desire
    to go vertical, you'll have fun,too. I guess you are spoiled if you
    have tried a cobalt first:-)
    
    He also tried a Webra 15/7 (6 windings/2 rings/9.5*5 prop/28 A) and an
    Ultra 900 (8*5 prop/24 A). Both are roughly 70 g heavier than the Astro
    setup. They do allow currents up to 50 A (on different props) and
    nearly vertical performance.
    
    He claims that he was not yet able to rip it apart in the air
    (although he tried to), and he also claims that 10 1000mAh cells would
    fit. But he didn't have the desire to try. I'm sure there are ways to
    rip it apart :-)
    
    The only real point of criticism is the fuselage. He wonders whether
    Graupner will come out with a fiberglass on maybe next winter:-)
    
    Willi - a buddy here - has a New Match kit for sale. But I won't buy
    it, I just bought his Multiplex mc 3030 computer radio (and sold my
    Kormoran). I'm broke (again), but finally have a top of the line 
    computer radio.
    
    Best regards,
                   Hartmut

    Hartmut,
    
           Thanks for the additional New Match info.  I have heard many
    good things about the Multiplex 3030, though it is very rare in this
    country.  I believe it sells for close to $2000 from Beemer R/C in
    Arizona.  It is supposed to be the ultimate in R/C transmitters.
    Any special future planes planned?
    
                                               
                                                          Regards,
    
                                                          Jim

    Almost the ultimate in radios....
    
    E.

    Yes, the mc3030 is a very nice radio, and here in Germany it competes
    directly against the mc-20. From what I know - and I played some with
    Eric's radio and closely studied his instructions - the Graupner/JR 
    mc-20 can do slightly more (I know I'll miss that second stop watch 
    for electric motor run time), but is a lot harder to program. Did you 
    ever notice how long Eric has his now and how often he used it? 
    
    I bought the mc3030 because I could afford it (used, and I traded my
    Kormoran in), because I'll stay within the system I've been using for 19
    years (servo connectors are still the same and I trust them more than
    the tiny JR ones), I can also use my 15 year old radio as the buddy box
    for selective (!) training, and I like the cleanliness and comparably
    low weight of the radio - as opposed to the mc-20. Also, there are
    service centers distributed all over the country. Last - but not least
    - the Multiplex radios are designed and manufactured in Germany.
    
    If I had bought new, I might still have bought the mc-20 since it sells
    for about the same money and has the second stop watch :-)
    
    I may enter some features of the mc3030 as I find time - maybe even 
    compared to the Graupner/JR mc-20 if you are interested. Let's keep 
    this notesstring a Graupner news note...
    
    Best regards,
                   Hartmut

    
    Reply to Note 1491.2                       
    
    
    >>> The new Hobby Lobby catalog is billing this ship as the one that will
    >>> convert glo fliers to electric.
    
    
         
                N  E  V  E  R    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                           
    
       :-)                                             

    
    
>                     -< Now you have started something.. >-

I knew that:-)

>    Is it a replacement.
 
Yes, it will replace the Profi-Ultrasoft ROM mc-20XD that you have - at least
that's what I think you have.
   
>    Do you have to send in your old module.
 
No.
   
>    Does it affect the language module?
 
I guess you can answer this better than I. I assume that you changed this very
module when you went from German to English, right? Then, yes, it will affect
the language (again). As I understand it, there is only the German version in
the catalog. Not sure whether it's really out there yet. Sometimes, things come
out before the news catalog is there, most of the time however, it takes them
well into summer until they start to deliver. I'd assume they'll provide their
sponsored contestants first. Although they might be using it already.

Catalog doesn't say anything about other languages. You may want to check your
British sources for an English version of the the PROFI-ULTRASOFT-ROM mc-20XD.

Regards,
         Hartmut