Conference vmszoo::rc

  OK, I'll admit it!  The references in this file to the 'Virgin Kadet' refer
to my Kadet Sr.  It took a while for me to build it, and then more time to get
the nerve to fly it.  Hence the christening.

  The building IS a lot of work, but it is a lot of fun also.  Make sure you
re-enforce the cabin area REAL WELL.  I used the rubber band method and had
the front of the cabin pull off during a loop.  The fuselage went in from
about 100 feet without the wing.  It took the wing about another 30 seconds
to hit ground.  The fuselage was vaporized from the firewall back to the 
trailing edge of the wing.  BUT, since it is all sticks, I just bought a bunch
of 1/4" sticks and rebuilt the fuselage in about 1 week.  This time I eliminated
the windows and sheeted the area for strength.  It may not look quite as nice,
but it is strong!

  The Sr. is a great flying plane.  It does go a bit sllooowwww, but that is
what makes flying it so relaxing.  I have an OS .40FP in mine.  That gives
it good performance (for a Kadet Sr.) but no power to fight a stiff head wind.
I also built mine as a tail dragger.

  If I was to build another I would: Make it a 2 piece wing for easy of
storage and transport.  Build the wing with ailerons (removing most of 
the dihedral).  Make the tail section removable for the above reasons.


  Enjoy!


                  Jim (space Kadet Senior)

    Hi Scott,
    
         I agree with (.1 reply) in that I also would reduce the dihedral
    by about 1/2 what the plans show. The plane will still be very stable
    and a bit more responsive to the control inputs. Stay with recommended
    control surface travels. The OS40-4C will be plenty of power. I
    recently built and test flew a Kadet MKII for a friend and he has an
    OS25 2 cycle in his. I first thought that power would be marginal but
    that it would fly it. I was very surprised to find that not only was
    plenty of power available but that once in the air, the plane could 
    easily be flown at 1/2 to 2/3 throttle. The airfoil of the Kadet's wing
    provides a great deal of lift. With the plane properly balanced and 
    trimmed, you can stay up for a suprising amount of glider time with the
    engine dead. I think you'll be very pleased with the Kadet. I've never
    owned one myself, but I've built 1 and flown 2. 
    
    Bernie

    Hello, hello,
    
    Sorry gentlemen but I have to disagree with using a 40 four stroke.  I
    personally don't think this is near enough power.  I've run a 40 2
    stroke, a OS.46 2 stroke and a .61 K&B.  For my high altitude flying
    above 7200' the .46 OS worked great.  The .61 wouldn't pull it any
    faster but it would pull verticle like a helicopter.  I totally agree
    with reinforcing the cabin area.  I've seen too many bite it because of
    this problem.
    
    Just my opinion.
    
    John C.

      I'm the guy Bernie built the MarkII for.He did an
    excellent job and the engine has more than enough power for
    loops and whatever else a novice like myself will try.For landings
    a slight breeze allows to float down with a rollout of maybe 30ft.
    on grass.As Bernie said,he test-flew it for me,then I got approx.
    15 good loooooong flights before what I think was a radio hit brought
    me down from about 100 ft.The wing is fine but Bernie's rebuilding
    the fuselage for me,so I'll be in the air again soon!
    
    Kevin

    I'm getting to start the wing on the Senior, but I need some advice on
    an idea I've had.  I'm building this thing to enter in my club's annual
    building and finishing contest at the end of the month.  The Senior
    will be covered in transparent red Monokote to show off the "sticks". 
    Compared to the fuselage the wing will look kinda clunky with those big
    sheet balsa ribs - my idea is to drill lightening holes in the ribs
    1/2" to 3/4" with a hole saw.  My question is how much can I get away
    with and not compromise the integrity of the wing?  Does anybody have
    any experiences they can share?
    
                --|--             Happy (con)Trails!
                 (O)             
          _______/ \_______       Scott Cox
    

    Following the tricks detailed in notes 2.2 and 2.4, the command
    
    	Notes> $  sea rc11.a kadet
    
    found 16 notes with the word, Kadet, in the title.  I added the
    keyword, PLANE_SIG_KADETS, to this topic and a couple of those 
    other notes.  Locate them now with    Notes> SHO K/F *kadet*
    
    p.s.  The command, Notes> DIR/ALL/TITLE=kadet, would have yielded
    exactly the same list of notes plus any added since the last update
    to RC11.A.    But it would have taken a few minutes, not seconds.

I built a Mk II for my first powered plane. My observation is that it's much
faster than the Senior, so harder to learn on. But I'd already been flying
gliders for 2 years, so it was fine for me.

It's a very rugged airplane. The nose section is virtually indestructable. I've
had one good crash (shot down) that essentially broke the fuse in half and I
repaired it easily in 2 nights or so. The strength of the wing amazes me. That
same crash did nothing but pull the ailerons out a bit, I just glued them
back in. Then there was the very windy day when a gust caught the wing 
(not attached to the fuse) and flung it into my flight box, leading edge first.
The lite-ply cradle on the flight box broke in half, yet I couldn't even find
a dent on the wing!

My goal this summer is to fly it off water using the Gee Bee floats that Kevin
Ladd loaned me. But I'm worried that the OS 40 won't have enough poop.

Dave

    The Kadet Senior is finished!  I did it in black opaque and transparent
    red Monokote in a scheme similar to the original by Claude McCullough
    at Sig.  The lightening holes in the wing ribs show beautifully.  I'll
    test fly it this weekend if the weather changes - reports for Saturday
    are for rain through Tuesday 8^(
    
    We had our annual Goddard R/C building and finishing contest last
    Wednesday - the Kadet got second place overall!  I lost out to a Byron
    Ryan ST that was a real work of art!
    
                --|--             Happy (con)Trails!
                 (O)             
          _______/ \_______       Scott Cox
    

>    We had our annual Goddard R/C building and finishing contest last
>    Wednesday - the Kadet got second place overall!  I lost out to a Byron
>    Ryan ST that was a real work of art!

Congratulations Scott.  It sounds beautiful and should be a ball to fly.
I don't know if you have been in the winners circle before but to win
a prize for a finish is no small accomplishment and you can be justifiably
proud.  Sounds like you should send a picture of this to Eric for the
DECRCM album.

Those Kadet Seniors are so beautiful when covered with transparent covering
and it sounds like yours is the best of the best.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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After nearly two years of flying a Kadet Senior (not for the whole time,
only on some weekends when the weather was fine) I want to talk a bit
about my experience with it.
The Kadet Senior/Seniorita is nice beginner's model for somebody who likes
building. Because I like building very much and that there isn't any
similar huge and light (for the size!) construction set anywhere in europe
(excluded people who happen to work at Digital or who have friends who
work there) I had a lot of fun with it. After the third take-off Bernd
Kn�rle "talked" me (or more the Kadet Senior) down on earth. That means
he stood behind me and told me what to do, because that were my first
flights. But everything worked great and in spite of Monday-Tuesday...
landings nothing got broken. The Kadet is really slowly although I used
a Enya 46 4C with a Graupner Nylon 11/7" prop and had a lot of thrust at
full throttle. A friend wrote on the back side of a photo with my Kadet
during a landing on it: "Bernhard's Kadet which touches the ground after
some kilometers" but it was only about 1 � meters high.
You can also make loopings like cracy, but you have to use full elevator.
We also made inverted flights and sort of rolls only with the rudder.
When it is windy the Kadet takes off after about 3 meters and climbs very
well. For a pattern flyer it wouldn't be enough but for a beginner that's 
the top of power, really! A whole year long I only used half throttle.
Now that I am an advanced Kadet pilot I use my smaller Noname which can be
rugged more. The next time I want to put a .60 twin 4 Cycle engine and
ailerons/flaps in the Kadet (I saw such a green covered Kadet in a DECRCM 
Video).

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 Viele Gr��e
(Holm und Rippenbruch)

Bernhard