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| 206.2 | I do! | INTRPD::SHATARA |  | Sun Jun 28 1987 17:55 | 5 | 
|  |     I already have oil filled shocks......any other ideas.  Could I
    have too much oil in the shocks?
    
    /chris
    
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| 206.3 |  | HOMBRE::DAUGHERTY |  | Mon Jun 29 1987 09:53 | 15 | 
|  | 	Like alot of people, my son and I started with a Hornet.
	I've spent a little time on dirt but don't claim to
	know a great deal about offroading.
	There are some inherent problems with the Hornet that
	you may not be able to fix. The biggest problem is 
	unsprung weight. I don't believe there is any way to get
	around the fact that the rear suspension carries the trans-
	mission and motor. The best shocks made might help, but
	the car will never handle bumps like your RC10. You can
	easily put twice the money the car cost into upgrades and
	not be happy with the results. 
	Chris
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| 206.4 | NO AIR ALLOWED | SCRAWL::COMINS |  | Mon Jun 29 1987 12:55 | 9 | 
|  | 	Any shock should be completely filled with oil.  You can change
    the weight (viscocity) of the oil in the shock, but there should
    be NO air in the shock.
    
    Can you adjust the spring tension (coils over the shocks)?  I've
    found that less tension on the spring helps when the car bounces.
    
    Todd
    
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| 206.5 | Unsprung weight | CTHULU::YERAZUNIS | VAXstation Repo Man | Mon Jun 29 1987 16:15 | 12 | 
|  |     It's the unsprung weight that's killing you.  Because the inertia
    of the motor/trans is high, it continues moving up even when the
    bump is long past... 
    	
    No real way to fix it, except to buy a Frog... :-(
    	
    Going to VERY soft springs in the rear (just barely enough to keep
    the vehicle halfway up the shocks) might help a little. 
    	
    Note that the unsprung weight is asymmetrical, since the motor is
    offset to one side.  Lose, lose.
    
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| 206.6 | Live Axle | NORDIC::COLBURN |  | Mon Jun 29 1987 16:18 | 8 | 
|  |     It hops because you have a live axle for the rear suspension
    Both the Grasshopper and Hornet have a live axle so the whole back
    end squats when you hit a bump or dip.You should have bought a Frog
    which for my money is the best entry level kit on the market for
    under $100,and it has 4-wheel independent suspension.
    
    
    						Kevin
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| 206.7 |  | EARTH::SCANTLEN |  | Tue Jun 30 1987 12:07 | 8 | 
|  |     I believe the hornet's rear shocks allow the use of inserts in the
    shock assembly that effectively stiffen or soften the 'shock'. 
    These are used depending on the terrain at hand.  One solution might
    be to configure a spare set of shocks for the expected terrain,
    and substitute accordingly.
    
    			-Mike
    
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| 206.8 | inserts = pistons | SCRAWL::COMINS |  | Tue Jun 30 1987 16:21 | 9 | 
|  |     In my Kyosho shocks the 'inserts' referred to in .7 are called the
    shock piston.  Three pistons come with each shock.  The difference
    in the pistons is that they have varying numbers of notches in them
    that allow different amounts of oil to pass by.  This controls the
    rate the shocks can be compressed/decompressed.  I haven't experimented
    with them yet (I have been very happy with the current setup).
    
    Todd
    
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| 206.9 | for all the help. | INTRPD::SHATARA |  | Wed Jul 01 1987 21:48 | 14 | 
|  |     Thanks for all the help.  I have added weight to the rear axle and
    this help alot.  I am also adding wight to the mid section.  The
    car doesn't ip at the stest turn now.
    
    I will be experimenting with putting a spr on the tab which extends
    from the box toward the front of the car.  A new rockbuster wter,
    which this time is a hornet clone has this feature.  This should
    dampen the gearcase from hopping.
    
    
    Thanks for all the suggestions.
    
    /chris
    
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| 206.10 |  | 18550::TENET |  | Thu Jul 02 1987 13:51 | 4 | 
|  |     Why don't you buy the hop up kit that they sell for the rockbuster?
    I think it comes with a larger engine,new shocks and sway bars.
    
    						Tom
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| 206.11 | BUSTER HOP UP KIT? | INTRPD::SHATARA |  | Fri Jul 03 1987 09:06 | 5 | 
|  |     I haven't seen the hop up kit for the rockbuster.  Is it available
    locally?   The hop up kit for the hopper only includes the 540 engine.
    
    /chris
    
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| 206.12 | HOPPERS | JUMBLY::FREELOVER |  | Wed Jun 19 1991 05:15 | 3 | 
|  |     
    FREELOVE
    
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