Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    
    I mostly deer hunt in NH and MA. Once I tried putting a little Dr.Q's
    doe in heat sent on a scrape I had found. Well, the buck dug it all
    up. I don't know if it excited him or pissed him off. I have never
    tried it since. But here is a couple true stories.....
    
    
     One sure way to attract bucks is to slam the car door just before
    entering the woods. Then while walking as loudly as you can find a
    stone wall sit down and smoke a butt. Well thats better then a harem
    to a buck. He'll come wandering over to find out the brand your smoking
    (probably BUCKS). All you got to do is line up and shoot. The rest is
    just feasting. Thats how Gene did it.
    
    Then there is ,is the 30-06 too much for deer, Joe. He gets out there
    in front of everybody and has himself a little sit to reenergize. Then
    some nice fat young buck has to have a look see at this funny looking
    overgrown chipmunk (Musta been the chile he ate the night before). Well,
    that Joe being the ruminate bovine hater he is up and shot that poor
    fat buck with his pumpkin ball throwing 58 cal Stalker(nice one shot
    kill I might add). Its even been rumored that that deer commited
    suicide. The thing that bothers me most is that was supposed to be my
    deer.    8^)
    
    SJN

    
    Make a pass at one of the does in the harem?

    Hey Leonard,
    
    Did I read about you in that note about a Sick world we live in, a
    few back.  Welcome to '91 notes.  Did you know the Buckarama is next
    weekend?
    
    Getting to the main objective, I was talking with someone that told
    me something that sounds good, theoretically.
    
    He had recently killed a doe.  He put the urine sack in a jar.  He
    also cut out the tarsal glands. When it came time to the next hunt,
    he poured the urine in a pan, and soaked the bottom of his boots in
    the urine for scent cover.  then he tied the tarsal glands to his
    boot, soaking them in urine also.  I never heard the results though.
    
    bob
    

    tarsal gland from a doe???
    
    

    RE.4
    
     I was wondering about that also.
    
    Jeff

    I had a strange/hard to believe experience 2 years ago. A friend and I
    were hunting Mass. Muzzleloader season. We were working together making
    mini drives for one another. We continued this from first light til
    about 11:00 a.m.
    
    About that time it was my turn to drive for him. He decides to take a
    stand/seat on a stone wall overlooking a hardwood opening slightly
    below him.
    
    I started on my trek, and approx � hour later, i have come just about
    full circle back to his spot. There's a pingrove fairly thick about 50
    yds. ahead of me, in the general direction that i'm working back to.
    Just about then i can hear walking, and see branches inside this grove
    moving. I froze and readied myself thinking that something may soon
    appear from that area. Several minutes go by, the walking noise fades
    and nothing else happens. I decided to approach the spot slowly, and at
    the ready when BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I IMMEDIATELY called out to my partner, and he answers right back"I got
    one". I got to him fairly quickly, and he described what had just
    happened. Well, this pine grove was below and to his left about 75yrds.
    He heard a noise in that direction, and soon after a nice doe emerged
    into the open. He raised the gun and fired, and the doe leaped forward
    once, and dropped. No sooner did the smoke clear, when a beautiful
    large racked buck come hightailing out of the same cover, and run right
    past him as he stood there with his smoke pole still smokin!
    
    While he gutted the doe I followed tracks for a short way to get the
    general direction of where the buck went. When I returned the chore was
    completed, so we decided to tag and drag the doe to the truck. Then we
    would come back and see if we could find the buck.
    
    I should've mentioned earlier that there was approx. � inch of new snow
    that particular morning.
    
    Anyway, when we started back up the path where we had dragged the doe
    out, there were fresh deer tracks on top of where we had just dragged
    the doe! At frist we figured that it was a coincidence as we dragged
    that doe down an over grown logging road that does have deer trails
    criss crossing it in stretches. We then continued to follow the drag  
    mark over to where he had dropped the doe, and the tracks had
    originated from the pines, where she had come before he'd shot her.
    
    We could only summize that another deer, maybe that buck had come back 
    after being seperated from that doe possibly in heat? 
    
    We didn't have any other sightings for the rest of the day.
    
    Barry 

    RE: .4-5
    
          Both bucks AND does have a tarsal gland on the inside of
    their hind legs.  Is that the question...??  You guys know that 
    already though don't you.....   ;^)
    
              

 Oh man, and do they stink!

    They do, but why would you want to use the one from the doe?  it's the
    bucks tarsal gland which "according" to everything you read and hear 
    about that is the attractant...
    
    no biggie, just wondering... 
    
    Fra
    

    but like i said in .0, i never heard the results.  Can't locate the guy
    now to find out.
    
    anyway, back to our scheduled program
    bob