Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    
    
    	I just recieved info in the mail regarding this association.
    
    	Does anyone else have any information?  
    
    
    	Thanks
    		CP
    

    
    Since I started this note, I thought I should put something in.
    
    I am no longer a NAHC member. THe magazine was not that good and was
    severly slanted toward Western Big Game, very few small game/upland
    bird/duck/goose hunting.
    
    I also didn't like the fact that they constantly try and sell you 
    something or get you to join some type of club (book club etc).
    
    Also once my membership expired I got alot of mail asking me to
    rejoin, this went on for about 3 months after the expiration and
    even after a phone call to them the ask them to stop wasting there
    money on me. It got so that I dreaded seeing a NAHC envelope in
    the mail.
    
    --Bob
    

    
    	Thanks,(BTW This year I am getting American Hunter-I think that the 
    	change in magazine is what got me on the mailing list)

I recently joined NAHC.  Seems like a pretty good deal, to me.  Of 
course, I am a western hunter, so I like their magazine.  So far,
I think that they're ok.  However, only time will tell.

Jerry

    The club seems oriented more towards the hunter with money
    to travel to other states and use guided hunting services.
    Would that my budget allowed ;-( 
    
    Still undecided whether I will renew. 
    
    dana

    
    
    DITTO TO 703.2!!!!!!!!
        I didnt like the idea of getting these books shipped to me then
    having a bill of $17.95 in the box, when I didnt even request the book,
    and then if thats not good enough they sent me a belt buckle, and
    wanted something like $50.00 for it, it was a nice belt buckle but I
    wouldnt pay that much for a belt buckle.....
    
                                                    Just my opinion
                                                      Lee
    

    Yea, there was a discussion in the fishing notes file about the
    NA"Fishing"C.  I joined that because it looked like a good deal.  Then
    when I got into it it looked just like a big scam and a rip off.  After
    I was a member of the NAFC for about 3 months, I got mail asking me to
    join the NAHC.  That's when I realized it had nothing to do with clubs
    but big corporate scamming.
    
    I never rejoined (although I thought the NAFC had a slick logo).
    
    /brett

    
    
    
    	I have not mailed anything back,
    
    
    	They tell me that I will become a 'Field Tester'  of "free" 
    	equipment.
    
    
    	How many of you recived free equipment to test.
        
    
    	Are they a clearinghouse for manufactures, or an advocacy group?
    	(Either one is o.k. as long as it is identified)
    
    
    	The dues are cheap.
    
    	The promises are big.
    
    	My doubts are growing.
    
    
    
    	IF you are a SATISFIED customer-  Help me defend this place-It
    	looks - Too good to be true-
    
    
    
    		CP
    

    Oh yea.  In NAFC they had the deal about "field testing".  It said to
    write to an address and tell them you wanted to be a field tester.
    I sent them 3 letters telling them I wanted to field test equipment.
    
    I'm still waiting 3 years later for the first equipment to arrive for
    test.

    I joined the NAHC some years ago and also submitted my name as a field
    tester. They sent me some wool socks and liners that worked great and
    I still am using them. I sent them my report on the merchandise and
    they responded with asking me to continue as a field tester. I haven't
    seen anything since. I am getting fed up with the commercialism they
    seem to be exploiting. I am always getting something in the mail from
    them to buy. The last one was cancer insurance, from a hunting club,
    give me a break. They seem to be getting more oriented to the dollar
    than to the hunter. I'm getting sick of it.
    
    					garyc

      This is in response to my note from yesterday, (.6?) I went home
    yesterday, and low and behold there sits a NAHC cookbook in the
    mailbox, now I havent been a member since last DECEMBER, And they got
    the @##$ to put a nice little letter thanking me for ordering the book 
    and then when I unfolded the letter, a bill  for.......................
     you guessed it $17.95 , can you believe it? now I know I made a good
    choice to drop this club!!!!! I sent the thing back cert mail, I dont
    need them to be sending me a bill in 3 months saying I didnt pay for
    the book that I requested.
    
    
                                                If you join beware!!!!!!
                                                          Lee
    

>>      <<< Note 703.11 by USRCV1::GEIBELL "KING FISHING ON LAKE ONTARIO" >>>
>>                            -< greenback chaser's >-

>>      This is in response to my note from yesterday, (.6?) I went home
>>    yesterday, and low and behold there sits a NAHC cookbook in the
    
Isn't there a law on the books which states that if someone sends you
something through the mail, which you didn't request, that you can
keep it and don't have to pay for it?  Seems like there even used to
be public service spots on TV with this message.  

Does anyone have more reliable information?

Jerry

    I've had similar experiences with NAHC. They would send me cookbooks
    that I didn't ask for along with a bill for $17 or so. 
    
    As for their publication...I find it geared to western hunting
    and very little useful information for someone who hunts the
    northeast.
    
    I cancelled by subscription quickly!
    
    Ken

    You folks got off cheap...  I was a member 2 years ago, and they
    claimed I was sent their official "Rhodium and Gold Belt Buckle"
    which they wanted over $50.00 for.  In one of the NASTY GRAM's I got
    they said it was sent via UPS, and they still havn't received the
    payment for it yet.  Neither my wife or I had signed for anything,
    and too this day they are still trying to get the money from me!!
    
    How do you get these people to leave you alone?!  I have sent several
    letters to them, and it still continues.  They have the nerve to try
    and get me to renew my membership over and over and over...
    
    Just figured I'd put in my 2 cents worth, because this is a very
    sore subject with me!!

>>                       <<< Note 703.14 by AIMHI::BROWN >>>
>>                           -< PLEASE MAKE THEM STOP >-

Has anyone tried lodging an official complaint with the local
postmaster.  Seems like this ought to at least be worth a shot.

I'll have to say, though, you guys have got me worried.  I joined
NAHC about 6 months ago.  So far, the only problem I had was when
I recieved a letter asking for me to send in my subscription money,
even though I already had.  I just chalked it up to "crossing in
the mail" and forgot about it.  They haven't really bothered me since,
other than the insurance thing.  But then again, the NRA tries to
sell you insurance, too.

Jerry

    
    re .14:
    
    > How do you get these people to leave you alone?!
    
    I have a method that works great.  I cross out my address and write on
    the envelope "Deceased.  Return to Sender".  Then I toss it in a US
    mail box (other than my own....don't want to scare my mailman or
    interrupt my service!).  I've gotten rid of the worst of them!  We're
    talking Columbia House is one of the notches in my belt (years ago).
    
    As for books, I do a similar thing.  I rip off the shipping order (the
    envelope on the front) and open the box, put the envelope inside and
    write "return to sender" all over the box in big letters.  Then I toss
    it into the big blue mail box.   If the US Postal Service can find your 
    address, it will come back to you.  So be sure you hide the address
    where only the original shipper will find it when they get it back.
    
    Please no flames about my abuse of the postal service.  Did you hear
    the price of stamps is going up again next month?  Sure, no doubt
    because of me.
    
    /brett  

    I cancelled my membership from NAHC last year. I also got sick and
    tired of receiving books that did not do me any good. It's too bad. I
    thought that it might be a good club to join. Like always I find things
    out the hard way. Why stop now? The only 2 clubs I have found to be
    worth belonging to are the NRA and GONH.
    							bret

    re: .12
    
    Jerry,
    
    There sure is a law....  and I used it to my advantage about 5 years
    ago.  You are also correct about there being some public service
    messages on the tube about it.  That was when mail fraud was a big
    business bilking the public of bo-cou bucks.
    
    I recieved a nice three book set of encylopedias along with a $100�
    bill.  Kept the books and sent back the bill registered mail, return
    reciept requested, stating I didn't order the set, but thank you very 
    much....  Never heard a word from them.
    
    I talked to the clerk at the post office and he said if I got another
    bill from them to bring the bill and the reciept of the registered 
    letter to the attention of the Postmaster.
    
    Greg

    Boy, Here it is December 1, and my subscription expired in June,
    INTENTIONALLY!
    
    These people Suck!  They keep sending me books.  I have finally gotten
    to the point of writing on the damn box, "return to sender, no longer
    at this address".
    
    They keep sending me bogus mail stating that this is my last chance to
    renew.  When do they get the hint.
    
    I'll tell you what I am going to do, next box I get from them, it's
    their loss.  I will keep it, and not pay the bill.  I will deny ever
    receiving the box.  Anything that comes via u.s.mail regular delivery, 
    they cannot prove I received it.
    
    DO NOT JOIN THIS SCHLOCK OUTFIT!  They are nothing more than a scam
    club in my opinion.
    
    Also, I get sick and tired of magazine companies asking me to renew
    when my subscription is two months into a year.
    
    
    bob
    

    re .19   I let my subscription run out on American Photo over 2 years
    ago and the still send me the damn magazine. They keep asking me to
    renew when my subscription runs out but I never reply and still keep
    sending it to me. Too bad for them. I will not go to the trouble any
    more of trying to tell them NOT to send it to me. I have already told
    them a couple of times. Besides it kind of works well in the bottom of
    the cat box anyways when I'm done looking at it.
    							Bret
    
    
    P.S. By the way it took about a year for North American Hunting Club to
    realize I didn't want to be a member of their organization.

I was a member of the NAHC for a year.  I, too, wasn't particularly
impressed with them.  For instance, they make a big deal about members
field testing equipment and such, but they don't tell you how to
sign up as a candidate for field testing.  I still don't know how
you do it.

As for the books, they sent me one, also.  It was a pretty good book, too.
When they sent the bill, I chucked it.  They billed me 2 or 3 more times,
and I ignored it each time.  They finally quit pestering me, and I
haven't heard from them in a long time.

Jerry

P.S.  By law, if someone sends you something that you didn't request,
you are not legally obligated to pay for it or to return it.  In other
words, it's a gift.

    I was wondering if anyone had any experience with a magazine/club
    called 'North American Hunting Club". I recieved an application for
    membership in the mail. It states that you get to try out equipment for
    evaluatin and then keep it. It also comes with a magazine, but it does
    not say how many issues a yr. It offers discounts on equipment too for
    its members.  It ounds like a glorified sales pitch to me. Anyone ever
    join it? It cost $12/yr.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Steve

    Steve,
     See note 703. Looks like others have had bad experiences.
    
    Bob

    
    They're still at it.  I got an offer to join their little club in the
    mail this week.  Looks good on he surface.  Thank God for notes.
    Thanks to the entries here their offer (and a lot of grief I don't
    need) goes into the round-file.

    Rathole alert:
    One of the worst bunches I ever had to get to leave me alone, and
    one of the worst for junk mail was American Express. You'd'a thought 
    the American economy was going to collapse because I canceled my card.
    
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