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| 643.1 |  | GIAMEM::J_AMBERSON |  | Fri Apr 20 1990 12:52 | 8 | 
|  |     Interesting on the deer.  Means that I'll have took book a mulie hunt 
    pretty quick!  Did you guys do your bear hunt yet?  
      I just spent lunch time spray painting a new 870 pump that I won.
    Figure it will make a good turkey gun.  Picked up an "extra full" choke
    for it.  Have to pattern it this afternoon.  What;'s everyone else up
    too?
    
    Jeff
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| 643.2 | Great Gun ! | PCCAD1::RICHARDJ | Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection | Fri Apr 20 1990 13:23 | 4 | 
|  |     Jeff, is that the 870 magnum ? I have that gun and love it.
    
    
    Jim
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| 643.3 | Am I now an official "Arteest"? | GIAMEM::J_AMBERSON |  | Fri Apr 20 1990 13:39 | 6 | 
|  |     Yep, I haven't fired it yet.  Just took out cans of green, brown, drab
    and black paint and started spraying.  Came out pretty good, almost
    lost the gun in the backyard!  Must have been all that practice in the
    subways.  
    
    Jeff
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| 643.4 |  | WJOUSM::PAPPALARDO |  | Fri Apr 20 1990 13:50 | 13 | 
|  |     
    Jeff,
    
    The bear hunt is my brother Guy, He'll be going in a few weeks. I must
    stay behind due to the Prom season and my limousine business being
    really booked.
    
    Hey, know any buyers for a 3.5inch 12ga Ulti-Mag New in box. note 3282
    in firearms file.
    
    So what do you think of mule-deer declining ?
    
    RICK
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| 643.5 |  | GIAMEM::J_AMBERSON |  | Fri Apr 20 1990 13:58 | 6 | 
|  |       Thats interesting about the mule deer.  I didn't realise that the 
    whitetail and mule deer were genetically capable of inter breeding.
    What are the offspring like?  If this guys theorys prove out, it
    could do a number on some of the outfitters out west.
    
    Jeff
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| 643.6 | Don't mean to imply one is smarter than the other | CHRLIE::HUSTON |  | Fri Apr 20 1990 16:45 | 8 | 
|  |     
    I would be interested to see the outcome of the cross breed, could it
    be a deer the size of a mulie, but with the cunning and habits (and
    habitat) of a whitetail, or it could go the other way, and give you 
    a smaller mulie that  acts like a mulie.
    
    --Bob
    
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| 643.7 |  | WJOUSM::PAPPALARDO |  | Mon Apr 23 1990 14:13 | 13 | 
|  |     
    Bob,
    
    Lenord Lee Rue recently published a Hardcover on this subject, the
    title of the book is " The New Deer", I have yet to get the book but
    plan to. I think it would be very interesting.
    
    I have the info at home, I'll try to remember to bring it in and post
    the address.
    
    Rick
    
    
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| 643.8 |  | GIAMEM::J_AMBERSON |  | Tue Apr 24 1990 13:01 | 3 | 
|  |     I got my turkey permit this PM.
    
    Jeff
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| 643.9 | WhiteMules or MuleTails? | CSSE::STEBBINS |  | Wed Apr 25 1990 10:59 | 25 | 
|  |     Friend of mine from high school is a range biologist for the BLM out in
    the Tongue River  area of Montana. She has seen several Mulie/Whitetail
    crosses brought in to check stations. The warden had freaked out on
    some guy cause he was checking  in a deer on a mulie permit that look
    mostly like a Whitetail. At any rate she has seen a few of them over
    the last 3 years and the combinations don't seem to have a pattern yet.
    These animals are more brown in color than a mulie which are usually
    greyish. Some have bifurcated antlers some with whitetail style racks
    with bifurcated tines. The ears are usually mulie, and the head shape
    favors a whitetail. The black tip on the tail (mulie) is usually still
    there. Since she is the only Gov't biologist in the area, she gets
    called in from time to time to settle disputes between MF&G officers
    and hunters. They have an official research project now to keep track
    of what is going on in this area. So I'll throw in a note from time to
    time and let you know how it is going. These critters have also been
    taken by hunters in Texas, New Mexico, Wyoming, and Colorado. So I
    agree that in the areas ov overlap of range that there will be a
    distinct new breed. It may be centuryies before the last Mulie is gone
    and there will be pure whitetails in areas where the population is far
    removed from the overlap areas. Also there is the Blacktail version of
    the Mule deer in California that is not seroiusly threatened by the
    Westward march of the Whitetail and in fact might never meet up with
    anything but a hybrid, and we get yet another permutation. What you get
    in 2 milennia or so are dear that are a lot like some Americans. Heinz
    57. Any how -gotta go--   MIke 
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| 643.10 | good question | CSC32::WATERS | The Agony of Delete | Wed Apr 25 1990 17:32 | 5 | 
|  |     .9 I read an artical on this along time ago.  It said that the
    whitetail is more agressive than the muledeer and is taking over
    muledeer habitat.  I assume that the mulie doe go with it.
    
    mark
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| 643.11 |  | SALEM::PAPPALARDO |  | Fri Apr 27 1990 10:12 | 11 | 
|  |     
    When Rick & I were attending the seminar given by L.L. he said the
    main reason for the "Cross Breeding" was due to the determination
    of the whitetail and the expantion of their range. A Muley buck
    will only chase a doe until he gets tired, but the Whitetail buck
    will continue after the doe until he catches her (most of the time).
    
    
                                                               Guy
    
    
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| 643.12 |  | SALEM::PELLETIER |  | Mon May 14 1990 13:20 | 5 | 
|  |      Hey Guy,
      That Whitetail sounds like somebody we right here in the plant
    :-).
    
     Gilles.
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| 643.13 |  | SALEM::PAPPALARDO |  | Tue May 15 1990 16:43 | 7 | 
|  |     re.12
    
          Gilles,
    
                  His initials wouldn't be "R.C."?
    
    
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