Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    I saw the ad last night... looks like it ought to be a real bargain!
    Be interesting to see what they have to say.  Probably learn that i'm a
    blood thirsty killer no doubt.
     
    Fra
    

    It'll probably be another "Guns of Autumn" trash documentary.  And of
    course being the media and presenting ALL THE FACTS, It'll ENLIGHTEN
    some DIE HARD ANTI too persue some BOGUS Course of action to prevent
    protest..or just plain BITCH about hunting and the related activities.
    
    Sorry about the CAPS--But it just rags me to no end; why don't they
    do their shoots with people who aren't slob hunters...BUT NOOOOOOOOOO!
    They gotta find some idiotic butcher who doesn't give a damn...And
    present the sport of hunting at its FINIEST!
    
    Sorry, Just one COLD BLOODIED, MERCILESS KILLERS opinion..
    
    
    Jeff

    
    
    	The show seemed to be a national airing of a neighbor hood
    	squabble.  They talked about hunting deer with dogs in a county 
    	down south.  The accent was heavy, the "reports" of drinking were
    	plentiful.  From the people that were shown on the T.V., I felt
    little sypathy for any of them-either side.  
    
    		Most of the show was the squabble between neighbors.  
    
    		ABC looks like they will broadcast ANYTHING that is anti
    hunting/gun.  
    
    		Coming up-a one hour special on how a gun owner in
    	West Bumblast is a threat to the entire nation, because he hunted
    squirrels once.  See actual footage of him using his Assault Weapon
    caliber(.22) semi-automatic rifle, equiped with the same kind of
    powerful telescopic sights used by snipers and drug assasins, carelessly 
    shooting into the air with lethal projectiles that can kill over a mile 
    away! Do people NEED to shoot this animal-that is endangered in many
    parts of this country?  How can you even eat a squirrel?  
    
    		CP
    
    	No smiley!

    Re. -3
    
    		I tend to agree, as it seemed to be a localized
    squabble between hunters and homeowners/landowners. Didn't really
    care for the seqment on the landowner with the ATV who loaded
    up the assault shotgun and other weaponry and went in search
    of dogs.
    
    		It seems that T.V reporting has stopped to yet another
    low in trying to fill broadcast time.
                                                    
    		It would be nice to see T.V try to do a seqment on
    the actual good points of animal harvesting. Although, at the
    end, the male reporter ( forgot his name ) did disagree with
    the female reporter who seemed to be appaled with hunting
    overall. He did put in a few good points on it's behalf.
    
    		Red_who'll_stick_to_some_of_the_cable_Outdoor_shows

    
    Yeah, One good point the reporter stated was:::::::::::
    
    "Geez, I went along with 10 or so hunters and dogs for five straight
    days, and you know what....those deer are not as defencless as i
    thought, they did not take a deer the whole week.
    
    And thats with dogs !   Wonder what he would of thougt stump-sitting
    for hours here in the Nor'East.
    
    Probably would of packed up and went back to New York City.
    
    Rick....
    

    Just make sure that you don't judge all Southern hunters by what you
    saw on 20/20.  While it is true that using dogs is probably more common
    here in the South than it is in the North, a great many people (myself
    included) have never hunted with dogs and don't want to hunt with dogs.
    To me still hunting will always be the best, using dogs tends to weigh
    the odds too much in favor of the hunter.
    
    Those people that were interviewed were Mississippi rednecks IF they
    drink while hunting, IF they fire from the road, IF they are unsure of
    their targets and backdrops, but there are rednecks in all 50 states
    and these people are NOT hunters.
    
    Keith R>

    How many people think the guy that shot the decoy deer from the cab of
    his truck is deaf?
    
    /brett

    
    RE:7
    
    Blind is more like it !
    
    Rick

    Noooooo;  Pigs like that are STUPID...The people shown are the exact
    reasons why there is such an anti hunting uprise..(tooting my horn) I'm
    a certified Senior Hunter Education Instructor in Colorado;  and
    throughout the years I have lost more private property(for hunting)
    because of people who ABUSE the their privilages.  And What I saw on
    the boob tube really turned a gut muscle.  They actually called that
    hunting---What a BOGUS joke...!  We as responsible hunters, must abide 
    by all rules and regulations, or before we know it, there will be no
    more hunting.  I just wish CBS or whom ever would film me, I spent 7
    days Elk hunting, working my butt off only to bring home TRACK SOUP!
    No Dogs, No ROADHUNTING, just alot of walking and tracking--to no
    avail. I better get off of my bandstand, there are some many things I 
    would like to say, but as a responsible hunter you've probably heard
    of bitched about the same things..
    
    Jeff

    
    
    
    	Now, let me get this straight,
    
    
    
    	If I spend weeks planning, saving, scouting, and collecting
    equipment before a hunt, ABC will investigate the "Fairness in hunting"
    
    	If I wander out into a feild and take game, I am a "Dangerous
    random hunter"
    
    	If I don't shave for a week I am a "Typical deer hunter"
    
    
    	Face it, without some very good ideas, and someone REAL popular to
    push them, ALL firearms activities will continue to attacked in the
    media.
    
    
    	CP
    

    	Just to get things straight, the term redneck doesn't deserve
    to be used in the context of a few back. The term refers to people who 
    work outdoors in the sun, hence red necks. These people are a large
    group. They are farmers, ranchers, cowboys,oil workers, and many
    others.
    	Like all generalizations, they don't hold up. I know a lot of
    cowboys and ranchers that are highly intelligent and true
    conservationists. Most have a  good education, and many have college
    degrees. They work at they're jobs because they love it. They don't
    deserve the bad connotations that are implied here. I'm a part time
    red neck and am proud of it. If I ever leave DEC, and have a choice,
    I'll be a full time redneck. The vast majority of the rednecks that
    I know are fine people.
    	Please avoid these tags. There are so-called hunters that do the
    things described here, but I'd bet that they don't all fall into the
    redneck catagory, and many probably don't. In any case,they aren't 
    representative of all or even a majority of the rednecks.
    
    	George

    All right, George!
    
    I heard that.
    
    ;-)
    
    /brett
    
    p.s. I think that criticizing the hunters that disobey laws, and display
    a general lack of disrepect,  in this file is preaching to the choir.
    
    Also, I try not to criticize another man's technique.  Some people feel
    that hunting birds with dogs is un-sportsmanlike.  Others don't like
    hunters that bait bears.
    
    There's two issues at stake here:
    
    1) Respect for other people (other hunters and non-hunters)
    
    2) Hunting methods.
    
    
    
    
    

    George,
    
    The term redneck was not meant to demean or belittle those people who
    work the land for their living.  I have nothing but respect for those
    people who choose to make their living outdoors.  
    
    Since the segment was focused on southern hunters, I chose to use the
    most common meaning of redneck.  While I don't know all the meanings of
    the word "redneck" across the country, I do know that here in Alabama
    the term is not particulary complimentary, therefore my use of the
    word.  
    
    These people were not hunters.  I don't think anyone here will argue
    with me on that point.
    
    Sorry if you were offended.
    
    Keith R>

    Oh yea, comin from a Florida Native living in Alabama, I don't think
    the term redneck is being used as a demeaning term.  Comin from a
    Yankee, them's fightin words :-) :-) :-)
    
    /brett

    Keith, I wasn't offended, just wanted to point out that the term
    has developed a bad connotation, but that it applied equally well to
    many people that I'm sure you didn't have in mind in you entry.
    	I guess that I'm a little touchy also, because I've heard many of
    my friends sort of lumped into a great faceless mass that many people 
    classify as ignorant bumpkins, if you will,  and they clearly don't
    fit the description. Generalizations, as we hunters should know, are
    seldom fair; note the media developed concept of HUNTER.
    
    	George
    

	Seen a program on the boob tube about rednecks... Seems the originals
	were coal miners in West Virgina who thought they were being screwed 
	by the company owned by some fat cats in England.  They went on
	strike and lost.... mainly cause the company threw them out of their 
	houses which of course the company owned.  So they formed their own 
	army and proceeded to go to war with the company.  Since they didn't 
	have any uniforms (to tell the good guys from the bad guys) they agreed
	to wear red bandannas or hanker-chiefs around their neck.  Hence the
	term  "rednecks".  Federal troops were called in and this sort of 
	dampened their fighting spirits...at least for the time being.

	The_south_will_rise_again_Rebel_Ed.