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          Hi,
           You asked for Info. on the Browning pump. Well I bought one
          this year and Love it. I being left handed enjoy mostly the
          bottom eject and safety on the top. It makes it alot easier.
          You mention the Remington looking like it was sanblasted but
          the Browning is not like that at all. I know it doesn't matter
          that much but the Browning is an excellent looking gun. I
          found it to have a very smooth action also. I hope this little
          bit helps. Oh, one more thing when I was out shopping around
          for a gun I liked the Browning the most but found it to be
          more expensive.

    
    
    
          Hi,
            My brother inlaw and sister both have browning pumps.hers
    is new last year his is new this year.he got his because of the
    steel req.,his old side by side just wouldn't make it with steel.
    anyway back to the browning,they are both jamming this year!!!We
    thought it was the store bought steel loads,but come to find out
    our AA reloads are sticking also.It's almost like the inside
    tolerances of the chamber are on the low end????The low brass aren't
    jamming as much as the steel,but are every now and then?
    
     He was thinking about sending them both back in to have checked?
    I was wondering if I could get the SPEC. from Browning to give it
    a quick here at work?? Since I do work in VERDOR MEASUREMENT AND
    ANALYSIS,and I own a few brownings myself,I beleive we as GUN owners
    can call the BROWNING organization a VENDOR.I wonder if against
    company policy to bring a barrel into work after hours,as long as
    you go through the proper security desk sign in procedures???
    
     Has anyone else out there experienced this jamming problem????
    
                                               WE BE JAMMING!!!!!!!
    
                                                      Kevin

            I also own a 12 ga Browning BPS which I bought about  7 years
         ago up in Waterville Maine.   The place was one of those sort-of
         liquidation outfits which  was  well-known  in the area, ah yes,
         the name returns to me, "Mardens".  Anyway,  I  paid $302.00 for
         it with a 30" FC barrel and have  since  bought an upland barrel
         for it (26" mod).  Both barrels come vent-ribbed,  standard.   I
         really like it.  I have owned a Mossberg and  like  that  also -
         cheap but functional.

            Brian

    Walt,
    
    I was luck enough to get a Remington 870 Express for Christmas this
    past year.  I've fired it quite a bit and find it to be very accurate.
    My father-in-law has a regular 870 and I really can't tell any
    difference in shooting the two firearms.  Since the gun is new,
    I really can't offer any advise as to how well it will wear.  I
    personally think it will do alright.  I like  the parkerized finish
    (better for turkey hunting) and the non-gloss wooden stock.  It's
    not what you would call a pretty gun, but it is very nice in my
    opinion.
    
    Regards,		Keith R>

    I have the same gun! Like you stated not the best looking gun you'll
    find, but real practical for hunting. I dont believe there are any
    differences between the internals or metals used on any of the 870's.
    Also, along with the low glare finish, the 3" chamber is great for
    that added punch for turkey!
    
    For the price, it's a pretty tough to beat, all around shotgun!

    I own a Browning BPS (bought it in 1981). I've put probable close
    to 20,000 rounds through it (conservatively) and never had a lick
    of trouble from it. It is the "old" model with a magazine selector
    and a 28" vent rib choked modified. I've found that the Browning
    modified barrels pattern a tight 'full' when you use larger (6 and
    4) shot. I think that the alloy on the remington express may let
    you down after a few years... I guess we'll see...
    
    
    Lowell
    

    
    well i finally broke down and bought thr Rem. 870 Express. I found
    it for $225 and figured it was a pretty good deal. I got it with
    a 28" accusteel barrel, a full choke tube and a modified choke tube.
    Went out shooting the other day and fell in love with the gun. It
    fits perfectly and th action is nice and smooth. The only problem
    is that I am used to aq semi-auto and i keep forgetting to pump
    it after each shot. I also found out that because the gun is chambered
    for a 3" shell the reciever is made of steel and not an alloy. I
    was told however not to shoot steel shot through ths full choke
    because the steel shot will not deform like lead will, so when the
    shot reaches the end of the barrel and enters the full choke something
    will have to give and a damaged barrel may occur.
    
    Thanks for all the advice.
    
                           Walt
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    Walt,
    
    One reason for not putting steel shot through your full choke
    is that you may never get the choke tube back out.  I found
    this out by experience!  Since then, no matter what size tube
    I'm using, I make it a habit to loosen and re-tighten the tube
    after every, say, 12 to 25 rounds.  
    
    Good luck with your new gun.
    
    Dave

    I know that I'm about four years behind the last reply, but I just 
    found this note.
    
    I have an 870 express and can tell you quite confidently that it is
    is mechanically identical to the wingmaster.  "Recievers are "milled
    from solid billets of ordinance grade steel."  No alloy in 'em.  I 
    wrote the company and thats how they reponded.  Differences are
    "cosmetic only."  
    
    Even after four years I'll bet all of you express owners are still 
    shooting them.
    
    BTW, I have a Browning BPS also, but in 10 ga.  Great for steel shot
    but a load to carry.  Anybody want to make me an offer?
    
    Scott.