| Title: | The Hunting Notesfile | 
| Notice: | Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270 | 
| Moderator: | SALEM::PAPPALARDO | 
| Created: | Wed Sep 02 1987 | 
| Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 | 
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 | 
| Number of topics: | 1561 | 
| Total number of notes: | 17784 | 
    I'm somewhat disappointed that I have to be the author
    of this note.
    
    Has anyone read the article in the sept issue of outdoor
    life on a bill before our federal goverment that will out law
    the use of any live birds for the purpose of gun dog
    training?
    
    It is in the back of the magizine and is a little difficult to
    find but it well worth reading if you train dogs.
    
    Now the author says this is aimed at the wasted animal lives
    that are used to train pit bulls to kill and the large
    number of rabbits that are killed so that grey hounds
    will chase that mechanical rabbit. etc. etc.
    
    What means to us....
    
    No birds, rabbits or coons will be used in training at all.
    I suggest we all read it and start writing our congress man
    before they pass this and it's too late.
    
    This article has been out at least two weeks and I am really
    disappointed no one has seen it yet or if you have even more
    dissappointed you haven't alerted us.
    
    I am also dissappointed that outdoor life didn't give the article
    a better, more expose place in the magizine. Why it isn't even
    listed in the table of contents. Its near the back . LOOK FOR IT
    
    Bear                         
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines | 
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| 32.1 | Oh no... | JUSTIS::STORM | Tue Sep 22 1987 11:25 | 6 | |
|     Oh no.........  
    
    I'm also suprised that such a bill hasn't received much press in
    any of the sporting magazines.  I receive "Field and Stream" and
    "GUN DOG", and haven't seen any mention of it in either.
    
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| 32.2 | false alarm?? Maybe. | CUERVO::GATH | Fri Nov 06 1987 14:14 | 39 | |
|     I am surprise that there isn't more traffic on this note..
    
    Can I assume no body cares???
    
    Are we going to put our heads in the sand.
    
    well I have read something recently which shed some new light
    on this and we can all go back to putting our heads in the sand.
    
    This is coppied from Springer on Line with out permission
    a magizine for springer entusiast
    
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    " 	Im sure many of you read the article in OUTDOOR LIFE entiled
    "Ban ON DOG TRAINING?" and perhaps some of you also saw Ken Maden's
    (New president of AKC) letter to AKC field club deligates, alerting
    them to the danger of proposed new legistation to live bird training
    and field trials. If so you can now relax as On THE LINE last minute
    check , before going to press, with Ken Marden tells us that a careful
    reading of the entire bill shows it specically excudes bird hunting
    dogs and will only effect dog racing and dog training involving
    the use of live animals as visual lures for "coursing" or animal
    fighting ventures. AKC also checked the office of Rep. Robert K.
    Dornan (R-CA) who introduced the bill and were told it definately
    would not affect our sport."
    
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    I guess you were all right. That you all knew it was a mistake or
    that someone else like akc would get it changed.
    
    Well I for one was concerned.. Did you know that the country of
    New Zealand has this very same law and they use a mechanical
    launching device to launch dead birds to simulate a flush?
    
    It makes for a verry poor trial.
    
    
    
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| 32.3 | LIONEL::SAISI | Could you be more specific? | Mon Nov 09 1987 10:34 | 1 | |
| Did the birds that they use in New Zealand die of natural causes...? | |||||
| 32.4 | VELVET::GATH | Mon Nov 09 1987 13:38 | 2 | ||
|     No I beleived they were killed for the event but I will make an
    effort to recheck this answer for acturacy.
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