| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 861.1 | PLUGGED VENT? | MR4DEC::DCADMUS |  | Tue Jun 18 1991 11:02 | 12 | 
|  |     
    You have either a plugged gas line between the tank and the primer bulb
    or a plugged vent. Are you using a built-in tank or a carry-on tank?-
    ,ake sure the vent screw is open on the carry on tank or in the case of
    the OM+C tanks that the vent valve opens when you hook up the fule
    connector. Ifr it is an on board tank, check the screen in the vent
    fitting. Lots of these vent fittings are made of white metal and the 
    metal corrodes to the poiut where it plugs up the screen.
    
    YOu definitely have a problem on the suction side of the primer bulb.
    
    
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| 861.2 | Check the fuel cap | MCIS2::MACKEY |  | Tue Jun 18 1991 11:03 | 1 | 
|  |     Make sure the cap on the fuel can is venting correctly.  
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| 861.3 | Are you using last year's gas? | MSCSSE::FRENCH | Bill French ZKO3-3/X8 381-1859 | Tue Jun 18 1991 11:43 | 8 | 
|  |     I had a similar problem - the motor would run fine for a while and then
    stall (when under full power). I found lots of little balls of gum in
    the gas. Apparently they were clogging the strainer. It was old fuel
    from the previous season. Once I rinsed the tank out and used fresh gas
    with stabilizer, the problem never happened again. I don't know
    if my primer bulb was collapsed or not.
    
    Bill
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| 861.4 | Sounds like a new tank would fix this!! | DENVER::HEDRICK | SOUTH CENTRAL REGION SUPPORT | Wed Jun 19 1991 11:09 | 8 | 
|  |     OK,
    
    Sounds like good info.  I plan to buy another 12 gallon carry-on tank
    today and this should eleviate my problem if it is on the bulb side.
    
    Thanks for the inputs, I will let you know.
    
    Glenn
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| 861.5 | Send me your old one... | GOLF::WILSON | This area closed for renovation | Wed Jun 19 1991 11:23 | 8 | 
|  |     
    RE: .4
    
    You made of money?  8*)    The problem could be as simple as opening
    a vent, replacing a defective cap, or cleaning the fuel pickup tube
    and/or filter in the tank.   I don't think I'd buy a new tank just yet.
    
    Rick
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| 861.6 | Sometimes node-names can be mis-leading!! | DENVER::HEDRICK | SOUTH CENTRAL REGION SUPPORT | Wed Jun 19 1991 15:03 | 12 | 
|  |     Rick,
    
    Didn't you know!! All TEXAN's own oil wells!!  No, seriously I need
    another gas tank anyway.  All I have for now is a 6 gallon tank, and
    that goes dry to quick.  After cleaning/checking trouble areas, I will
    still need another tank.  This way I can have 12 gallons.
    
    I will try all ideas tonight.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Glenn 
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| 861.7 | Probably in the gas tank filter | DENVER::HEDRICK | SOUTH CENTRAL REGION SUPPORT | Fri Jun 21 1991 12:50 | 14 | 
|  |     Here's what I did.  I took the gas line and checked it. It seemed to be
    OK.  I took the black part off of the tank, which holds the float and
    the tube/filter.  I tried blowing through the filter to see it come out
    of the top and couldn't do.  I found there are two little nipples that
    have to be recessed to get flow through this tube/filter.  I pushed
    them in and still tried blowing through the filter and couldn't get it
    to go through.  I banged/beat it around a little and still no luck.  So
    I came to the conclusion that my problem is in this part.  My new gas
    tank I ordered should be in Monday or Tuesday.  
    
    
    Thanks for the help, I will have more later.
    
    Glenn
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| 861.8 | New tank fixed the problem!!! | SNOWY::HEDRICK | South Central Regional Support Engineer for now! | Thu Jun 27 1991 12:43 | 8 | 
|  |     Well,
    
    I received my new tank.  Filled-up and mixed oil.  Ran thirty minutes
    with no problems.  Guess I'll trash the old gas and try to do some
    cleaning on the old tank, and use it as back-up.  Many thanks for all
    the help!!
    
    Glenn
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| 861.9 | REPLACE THE "INNARDS!" | MR4DEC::DCADMUS |  | Thu Jun 27 1991 12:56 | 7 | 
|  |     
    If you have the "typical" factory OMC tank, tou can replace the fuel
    pickup/conncetor assembly- there are 4 srews that bolt it to the tank-
    LOTS cheaper than a new tank.
    
    Dick
    
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| 861.10 | same problem | FSOA::DBROSNIHAN |  | Wed Jul 17 1991 13:57 | 13 | 
|  |     I have the same motor and was just having the same problem, I did the
    following and it fixed the problem,
    
    	1. I changed the fitting on the inboard tank
    
    	2. cleaned the vent for the inboard tank
    
    	3. replaced the fuel line from the fitting on the engine case to
    	   to the fuel pump.
    
    	4. pulled the filter off before the pump (where the thumb screw is
           and it says filter), that had some gel type substance on it
    	   which I beleieve was old gas. No more problems.  
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| 861.11 | Revivable small outboard? | SPARKL::JOHNHC |  | Wed Mar 16 1994 09:20 | 24 | 
|  |     Last fall I took a gallon of gas with me on an upstream voyage for my
    3hp Evinrude. When the outboard ran out of gas, I filled it from the
    gallon can. This was how I always did it. 
    
    Well, unbeknownst to me, one of my summer visitors had taken one of
    mixed-fuel containers and filled it with straight gas for the
    lawnmower. (This was undoubtedly my fault for not making it clear that
    the 5-gallon container in the shed was for the lawnmower.)
    
    Anyway, the outboard froze within seconds of restart.
    
    It's been stored inside all winter.
    
    Now my questions:
    
    Does anybody have any sense of whether the motor is recoverable?
    
    If yes, can somebody give me a hint or two on what I might do?
    
    Yes, if I can't do anything myself, I'll give Rick Wilson a call.
    
    Thanks.
    
    John H-C
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| 861.12 | A little costly.... | KAHALA::SUTER | Never too Hot! | Wed Mar 16 1994 11:19 | 12 | 
|  |     
    John,
    
    	Sounds like a full rebuild to me. Get the piston(s) out of
    it, Cylinder bore, New rings, crank bearings, machine the crank
    maybe, new piston(s) maybe.... The moderately mechanically inclined
    should be able to fix it up or as you've already hinted give the
    motor to Rick and toss him some bucks...
    
    	I bet you won't make this mistake again, huh?
    
    Rick
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| 861.13 |  | UNIFIX::BERENS | Alan Berens | Wed Mar 16 1994 11:38 | 8 | 
|  | re .11 and .12:
Aw, gee, don't be so pessimistic. The fix might be as simple as 
replacing the piston and gently sanding any aluminum residue off the 
cylinder wall. Back in my two-stroke motorcycle racing days I seized 
many a piston without damaging the crank or bearings. 
Alan
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| 861.14 | HERE'S WHAT I'D DO FIRST | MR3MI1::BORZUMATO |  | Wed Mar 16 1994 13:55 | 17 | 
|  | Set the motor down on its front, remove the spark plug and leave it
out. put some penetrating oil in, and leave it sit for awhile.
check each day add more if needed.
couple days later, try pulling the rope and see if its free.
if not give to rick wilson.
if it stopped that soon after starting i doubt you've done that much
damage.
JIm
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