Conference vicki::boats

    
      You are correct in that the oil will be able to drain from the
    filters when the motor(s) are stopped if you mount the filters so
    the openings are down. This is VERY bad for the bearings in your
    engines as they are plain bearings and need a constant supply of
    pressurized oil to remain happy. Some oil filters ARE equipped with
    anti-drainback valves, but these are not common and it's not really
    advertised when they are so equipped. You may also be able to find
    remote mounts that have anti-drainback valves - that would be your 
    best bet.
      Since you are going to use remote mounts, you can put them in
    very(hopefully) convenient locations that would make it easy to
    catch oil that may dribble out from a full oil filter when you're
    changing it.
      In any case DON'T LET THIS PROBLEM GO. You DEFINITELY will have
    problems after a while if you have the oil draining out of the 
    filters between uses.
    
    					Kenny 

    
    ADVICE? Sure...mount the filters in the most convenient place possible,
    but mount them so that the filter holds the oil during shut off.
    
    I've done it...and while I still have to lay on the motors to change
    the filters (install EZ-drains while you're at it)...laying on the
    motors is much better than crawling around them to hang upside down
    (bat-like) to wrestle with a filter wrench and a slippert filter.
    
    

    Thanks for the advice folks. I will be looking for a convenient
    place to mount the remotes after haulout this winter. I think I
    can find a place that is accessible enough to get a wrench into
    without having to perform unnatural acts. I will also take the advice
    on the EZ drains. They sound like a great idea.
    

    Where pray tell does one find such a wonderful invention as a remote
    oil filter mount?
    
    -db-
    (two 260 Mercs & don't like hanging upside down)

    What's an E-Z drain?
    
    Mike

    
    OK...OK.
    
    EZ drains are long tubes which are screwed into the oil plan and
    are cap sealed at the other end. Reach down, unscrew the top of
    the EZ drain (sometimes called 'speedy-drains') and drop the opened
    tube into a bucket and drain the oil. 
         
    Remote oil filter mounts are entire assemblies which have an input
    and output hose running to an assembly which holds an oil filter.
    The assembly is usually bolted wherever it's convenient and
    sufficiently strong to do so. The hoses are simply run from the
    location of the current oil filter assembly. 
    
    Both of these gizmos (labor saving devices!) are available from
    the REX Marine catalog - something every do-it-yourself boater should
    have and memorize. If you need the phone number for REX, 'reply'
    and I'll put it in the notes.
    
    Mitchell
    
    
    
    

    Please put it in.__mb

    
    REX MARINE is a warehouse distributor in Azusa, CA. 
               
    600 Ayon Avenue
    Azusa CA. 91702
    818/969-5987
    
    818/969-5169 (FAX)
    
    Catalog is $5.00 - and well worth it...they are knowledgeable and
    quite willing to share that knowledge. Prices are also pretty
    reasonable.
    
    A second source of parts is Glenwood Marine ... I'll enter that
    information tomorrow (assuming system is available).
    
    Mitchell
    

    
    Another source for remote filter assemblies and EZ-drains (as well
    as many other essential items is 
    
    Glenwood Marine
    1627 West El Segundo Blvd
    Gardena CA. 90249-0646
    
    213/757-3141
    
    

    question for .8.
    
    you mention that they are a warehouse distributor. do they specialize
    in engine parts etc. or are they an all around marine supplier.
    
    
    jim.
    

    
    These people tend to specialize in marine hardware - tabs, bell
    housings, starter motors, alternators, exhaust tips, filters and
    filter mounts, pumps, throttle assemblies, cabling. This is where
    some of the smaller boat builders go for parts and assemblies.
    
    If you're looking for cams/pistons, rocker arms, etc - nope that
    not their line. also, no cleaners, waxes, tops/canvas, 'ropes', etc.
    
    mitchell
                                                                 
    

    I'd like to know what Fram (or other such make) filter I should use for
    my 1987 Mercruiser 165 HP.  The local Mercruiser parts dealer wants $7
    for an official, never use anything but "Quicksilver" filter.
    
    thanks,
    
    tim   

    Tim, i don't know the Fram filter no. but i'm pretty all mercruier
    blocks are chevy's. Soooooooooooooooo, if you got a 165 hp,
    which sounds like a v6 to me, find out which c.i.d you got and
    go to your local auto store and ask them for a fram to fit
    ???????? chevy.
    
    p.s. you can get more than this from your local auto parts place,
         but be careful, cause there are some things auto parts places
         sell, that will give you a real thrill., i.e., non-marine
         parts, where you should only use marine rated parts.
    
    
    
    Jim.
    

    The 165 is an inline 4 (based on a Ford tractor block) built by Merc
    Cruiser. I believe the correct filter is a Purolator AP-25.

    The 1987 165 inline 4 is a GM aluminum block.  The correct filter is a Fram
    PH30.  The PH13 is the same filter in a longer profile.  The auto parts 
    store, (at least CAP) has a listing for Mercruiser.