| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
 | Date | Lines | 
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| 464.1 | Try Doug Russell's | AMFG00::JOYCE |  | Mon Aug 07 1989 06:52 | 6 | 
|  |     Call Doug Russell's Marine in Worcester Ma.,  508-791-4917. 
    They also carry OMC parts. They always have an ad in Offshore
    with prices for engines and outdrives, (new OMC outdrives from $1965.)
                        
    Good luck
    Steve
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| 464.2 | Another source | NRADM::WILSON | Southern NH, The Mass. Miracle | Wed Aug 09 1989 10:31 | 14 | 
|  | The following is a copy of an ad from the classfied ad section of 
Trailer Boats August '89 issue.  There were ads for two other
places claiming 40% and 50% off, but they never mentioned anything
about them being genuine factory parts.
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| 20% Discount on Genuine Johnson-Evinrude-OMC Parts, Props,   |
| Accesories!  Call us with part number.  Fast shipment. Visa/ | 
| Mastercard/AMEX/Discover                                     |
| Johnson's Marine                                             |
| Box 28                                                       |
| Longville, MN  56655                                         |
| phone: (218)363-2526                                         |
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| 464.3 | Comments on D. Russel Marine | BIZNIS::CADMUS |  | Thu Aug 17 1989 15:41 | 57 | 
|  |     
    
    I would avoid Doug Russel like the plague! I purchased a rebuilt upper
    gear housing assembly from him last year for $1500 for my 74 225 OMC
    I/O.
    A new one was $1600 and change- but- not one of 40 dealers I called in
    NE had one in stock and the factory was backordered with 3-6mo.
    delivery. His attitude was "I got it and there aren't any around" If
    you want it, you'll have to pay my price".
    
     Since I use the boat to commute to my summer iskland home- I was
    stuck- he knew it. 
    
     I giot a 90 day warranty. I put less than 20 hrs on this gearbox and
    when I put it in the water this spring- it ate itself.
    
     I took it apart, and found the nut ion the main drive shaft had come
    off and the whole thing was history. Called ol mr Russel- he could
    care less- 90 day warranty- wouldn't even look at it. There were lots
    of things that weren't broken that did not fit as they should. I am a
    fgairly competent mechanic and it was obvious that the "rebuilt" was
    done with a set of used and worn out parts.- like the drive gear that
    flopped around on the pinion- it was supposed to be a press fit.
    
     I checked with some dealers in the area who I am freindly with- 
    not too good a response.
    
     I ended up lucjking out thuis year - a freinfd of mine had a boat with
    a 1 year old NEW lower unit ( the whole leg)- he had a set of new
    manifolds, Fresh water cooling,trim tabs-and rebuilt block with a new
    carburetor. He was strapped for cash- got the whole rig plus a 19"
    Grady White runabout, 4 props without dings- delivered for $2000.
    
    
     THe going price for a used complete lower unit for the OMC I/O's
    ( not Cobra's) seems to be between $1500 and $2500.I guess your outdrive 
    is the COBRA outdrive based on it's
    age-finding a used one will be tough and I haven't found any dealers
    that discount on outdrives. I'm surprised OMC factory won't make some
    kind of adjustment- like selling to you at dealer cost or better yet,
    factory cost.
    
    BTW Doug Russel buys a lot of returned/reconditioned stuff from both
    OMC and Mercruiser and also buys out Bankrupt distributors. I was
    cautioned by  a freind who is a Force O/B dealer that even if it is
    new, it may be a reject from the factory that has been repaired. Not
    being an authorized dealer, you have to deal with this character for
    any adjustments, etc.
    
      I'll row before I do business with this guy again- Since it's over
    $600, I can't use small claims court and lawyer's fees  plus the time
    and aggravation would make a civil suitimnpractical. It's clear that a
    nasty letter from a lawyer is something this character could care less
    about. 
    
    PS anybody want a 19' Grady White runabout - set up for an OMC I/O real
    cheap????? 
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| 464.4 | Tell us more... | NRADM::WILSON | Southern NH, The Mass. Miracle | Thu Aug 17 1989 16:04 | 9 | 
|  | RE: Note 464.3  
>>  PS anybody want a 19' Grady White runabout - set up for an OMC I/O real
>>  cheap????? 
What is the condition?  Location?  How much $$$$ ?  Is there a trailer?
Rick
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| 464.5 | Slime. | DEMING::TADRY |  | Fri Aug 18 1989 08:34 | 4 | 
|  |     I'd never step foot in his dealership again. When USA Marine bought
    his dealership the guys at the parts desk used to love to hear people
    rag on Russell. He a good example of what a business man should
    NOT be like.
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| 464.6 | Where did $600.00 come from?? | ANT::MBREAULT |  | Mon Aug 21 1989 10:54 | 3 | 
|  |     Check the high end figure for small claims court again...$1500.00.
    
    _mb
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| 464.7 | Help on a part-finding mission needed! | BROKE::TAYLOR | I hate hot-pink *everything*!! | Mon Jul 09 1990 11:12 | 16 | 
|  |     A slightly-related-to-the-base-topic-question:
    
    Does anyone have any first-hand knowledge of a good replacement
    engine-compartment blower for a 19" I/O boat? My 3-yr. old blower has
    been screeching in its bushings, and is now intolerable to use. Pulling
    it apart, I discovered a miniature motor built from the shabbiest of
    materials, and wondered how it's lasted this long...
    
    How about it? Surely some of the world-class boat-mechanix in here have
    been in this situation before and have invested in quality parts in
    order to ensure that it doesn't happen in the too-near-future. I'd
    estimate the value of my old blower to be at around 6 US dollars, based
    on how it's built. The motor looks like something out of a Tyco
    slot-car set.!.
    
    Mike
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| 464.8 | Bliss Marine in Dedham | BIZNIS::CADMUS |  | Mon Jul 09 1990 11:49 | 9 | 
|  |     
    
    reply to .7
    
     Most blowers are "commodity" items- they come in 3"" and 4"", flange
    mount and in line mount. Bliss Marine in Dedham will have  them at
    prices lower than a dealer as well as Boat/US  price should be arouind
    $15-$20 for an "average " unit or up to $ 35 for a quality blower.
                                           
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| 464.9 | 3 years, I wish... | WEDOIT::JOYCE |  | Mon Jul 09 1990 12:46 | 5 | 
|  |     re: .7
    You got three years from your bilge blower? I have to replace them
    every year. I also put over 300 hours of run time on my boat every
    year. I would buy a cheap one, if it lasts too long, the salt will
    get it anyway.
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| 464.10 | Boeshield helpds some | BIZNIS::CADMUS |  | Mon Jul 09 1990 16:32 | 15 | 
|  |     
    
    re.8- I'm with you- those in line blowers suck all that mioist air from
    the bilge - I get about two-3 yrs out of a blower. I found that giving
    it a good dose of BOESHIELD lubricant puts a nice sticky coating on
    everythng and helps get a little longer life.
    
    I'd like to find a long lasting blower- MIne is mounted behind my heat
    excahnger ( I have FWC) and I have to remove that to get at the blower.
    That's good for about 3-4 hours , a bad disposition and lots of skinned
    knuckles.
    
    Dick
    
    
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