Conference vicki::boats

    I plan to be in the area over the 4 day weekend. I will be at the
    turning of the Constitution on July 4 at noon. We went last year
    and if you are in the area, it's worth seeing. I would suggest a
    slip. I am in Hingham (Hewitt's Cove) and it is a short run from
    there to anything in Boston Harbor (Islands, Constitution, etc.).
    The boat is 'LIBERTY', a 31' Blue Seas. Give me a call on 16 or
    call me at DTN: 297-3522.
    
    Fred
    

         I understand that there are slips available at Rowes Wharf.
    You can get them on Channel 16 or you may prefer to call them for
    a reservation that week end.  
    
         I am also at Hewit's Cove Marina (Slip F-17).  You might consider
    calling them for a slip over the July 4th week end.  They should
    have some available because many of their regulars go off for that
    week end.  Like Fred mentioned, it is only a short run into Boston
    from there and you would get an opportunity to see some of the islands
    on the south shore.  You can also purchase gas at Hewits Cove Marina
    or at Turn Harbor Marine.

    THE CONSITUTION MARINA WILL COST YOU $5.50 PER FOOT PLUS A $5.00
    DEPOSIT ON A KEY. IT'S LOCATED JUST BEFORE YOU ENTER THE CHARLES
    RIVER. A SHORT WALK TO BOSTON'S NORTH END, WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THE
    "T" ANYWHERE. IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY THERE, I'M ON DOCK "D". SAIL
    BOAT PASSE-PARTOUT.

re .3:

If $5.50 per foot per night is right, then piracy is alive and well in
Boston. 

    With the stiff breezes of June, many a boater was happy to pay this
    price. Supply and demand has put downtown slippage very expensive.
    But I agree, It's a rip off !

    $5.50 for a 23' boat works out at about $230. I can get a mooring
    all year for that in Narragansett Bay!!!!!!! Can't believe it.
    
    Even for a week, it's a rip-off.
    
    Ray

    I don't understand you people.Why is it a rip off?
    Isn't the same thing by  having our hamburger at McDonald's and
    they(the ones that can afford it)have it at the Ritz.Of course
    this is a dump example because I don't believe they go for plain
    burger.Seriously, it is getting frightening what is going to happen
    with the places we rarely can afford now.Maybe I buy heavier anchors
    and longer rodes.

There is a difference between a fair price for something and price
gouging. I believe that the rate at Constitution Marina is about $100
per foot for the summer. That's about $0.56 per foot per day for a 180
day season. If the slip renter is away, the marina rents his/her slip by
the day and gives none of the income to the long-term renter (or so I am
told by a friend with a slip at Constitution). I have been delighted to
see newspaper ads for vacant slips at Constitution Marina. The owners
(who are leasing publicly owned land) have apparently gotten too greedy.
By the way, the state refused to renew the marina's lease until the
owners agreed to make substantial improvements. It is this sort of price
gouging that makes me support public ownership of all waterfront
facilities (marinas, etc) with availability on a first come, first
served basis. (Oops, wrong Notesfile.) But look on this as an investment 
opportunity -- buy stock in companies making ground tackle and mooring 
equipment. Their profits are bound to go up!

    I'm sorry for leading you all down the error path. Last time I pulled
    into Consitution, with a 37 footer, I paid 55.50 which comes out
    to be $1.50 a foot not the $5.50. Simple memory error. So, the 23
    footer would be $34.50 a night plus the returnable deposit for the
    key. The slip has Water, Lights, Electric and ice for a buck a bag.
    This pricing is more in line with other Marinas.

    $1.50 per foot ain't that great but better than the previously
    quoted price. Oak Bluffs has gone to $2 per foot, and now i undestand
    that there is no use of grills at all. Friends of mine were 
    out there several weeks ago. They claim folks were leaving after
    they found out what the new rate was, can't say as i blame
    them, in my opinion its not at all a place i would like to
    visit. As for rates in general there all about 25-35% to high,
    the greed is on the run, but i believe there is going to be
    a short coming, as these prices rise, there are fewer
    people willing to pay for them, note i said willing, most 
    people prescribe the "good value for the money". i'm not
    saying that they are not entitled to a profit, but gouging
    cannot be allowed.
    
    jim.

    This last weekend my friend was in Boston Harbor and he
    paid $ 2.00 per foot. The mooring was beyond Rowe's Wharf
    ...took a little narrow street right before a 7-11 store
    (not your usual 7-11 store, much nicer looking). The Wharf
    I believe was called COMMERCIAL Wharf.
    
    That's a fact...next week rates could be higher. 
    
    ps. $ 8.00 to park a car overnight.
    
    Lloyd

    
    I guess it's like they say....
    
       You got a boat....
    
           You must got $$$
    
       You gotta pay.
    
    

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AIMHI::SJOHNSON                                      12 lines  25-JUN-1992 13:19
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    We're planning on doing the 4th of July fireworks by boat this year. 
    We were wondering if there is any place that we can moar our boat in
    the ocean that would be safe & legal in the Boston area.  We have a 25'
    BAJA speed boat.  My husband seems to think we can just moar anywhere
    in the ocean.  I'm thinking we should avoid the water on the 4th of
    July altogether.
    
    Any suggestions???
    Thanks in advance,
    Sonia
    
    If this is already posted someone - pls direct me.

    
    Sonia,
    
    If you actually want to see the fireworks on the 4th
    then you do not want to be in the Harbor,  you need
    to be down the river past the lock.  At least from
    my experience which has been two harbor cruises on large
    cruise ships (ie: 250+ people).  You can see some
    of the fireworks but they are a good distance away and
    many are blocked by the Boston skyline.
    
    I do not know what it takes to get farther down the river
    but that tends to be a real zoo as well.  From the people
    I know who have taken their boats there for the 4th about
    half thought it was a big mistake and half had a good time.
    I personnly would be far to worried about people bumping
    into my boat and constantly being at the controls to hold 
    position and avoid other crazy drunks to enjoy myself.
    
    Maybe others have more first hand experience about the
    river, but the harbor is not the best place to see the
    fireworks.  It is still a good time in the Harbor as
    long as you set your expectations about seeing the show
    properly.
    
    Mike

    Yearly I take my boat to the fireworks in the megagapolis of
    Boothbay Harbor Maine, which in terms of crowd must be 100 times
    smaller than Boston and even then I'm never sure that I had a
    good time (my guests are, so if you don't mind playing captain...).
    
    Too many boats, in the dark, all letting out ground tackle in close
    proximity to one another.  No so bad on arrival since it's still
    light out, but afterward everyone hauls anchor together and takes off.
    
    Night boating has enough challenges without dealing with crowds.
    
    But still I do it... I think maybe this year I'll think about 
    trying to hang around a while until after it's over to let things clear
    a bit.   That might help.
    
    

    I understand during the parade of great ships the coast guard and the
    Harbor Master will only allow pre reg. boast anchor along the parade
    route.Check the Boston Coast Guard cmd.He the phone book.

Just a scribble from us in the Nations Capitol.

The 4th is allways a BIG party here on the Potomac River on the 4th P.M.  One 
can catch the fireworks on the Washington Monument grounds from the comfort of
one's boat.  A good time....

Once its all over, picture 1000 runabouts, yachts, offshore racing types, etc. 
going downriver @ once @ varying velocities... Is your insurance payed up???

Year before last there was a ~12' sail boat, no lights, except a flashlight, 
tacking across the channel as the mass exodus went down the channel!!!!!!!!!!!! 
It was cool though, he had the right of way!!!!!!!

Actually, a lot of the more sensable skippers hang around for an hour or 2 and 
then cruise home @ a reasonable clip.

    The US Coast Guard publishes a weekly "Local Notice to Mariners," to which
    anyone can subscribe for free.  Issues 24 and 25 have all of the info
    needed to plan a trip on the 4th, or to see the tall ships.  This
    includes:  events, schedules, traffic restrictions, designated
    anchorages, & more.
    
    Call for info at: 	(617) 223-8338 M-F 0730 to 1600
    			(617) 223-8558 evenings & weekends

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CUBICB::BARKER                                       10 lines   7-JUL-1992 07:43
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    	I am looking for public loading ramp and car/ trailer
    	park North of Bostom to put in next week to go look
    	at the Tall Ships . I assume this weekend will be crazy.
    
    	I know of a couple ramps up in Gloucester but that is a haul
    	to Boston if there is any significant seas. 
    	
    
    			Thanks Charlie

    
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    	In Winthrop there is a public, free launch area, I believe off of
    	Route 1A. My neighbor uses it all the time; I have never personally
    	used it. But I would assume that it will be very busy next week.
    
    	John

    
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SALEM::NORCROSS_W                                     3 lines   7-JUL-1992 09:29
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    I thought that they were going to restrict access to the harbor during
    the Tall Ships visit?
    Wayne

    
    	re .28
    
    	I don't think that they are restricting all access to the harbor.
    	They *are* controlling the areas that general boating can use 
    	during the shows. The local tv news stations and the Globe have
    	had lot's of information about this lately.
    
    	John

    I was just looking at CG pamphlet on "Guide for Safe Boating  Sail
    Boston 92".  For the inner harbor there will be NO vessals moving from
    9 am to 5 pm except for enforment and the tall ships.  The inner harbor
    is from Castle Island inward.  Also  the locks are closed on 
    7/11  from 6:45-7:30 am and 9 am to 5 pm.
    7/16   from 7:45-9:30 and 10:00 to 4:00 pm.
    
    There is a map in last sunday's globe on wher you can anchor.
    
    Ken C
    

    Just wondering if anyone has put their boat in the harbor area for
    viewing & knows what the rules are of the harbor.  My husband is
    planning on putting our boat in tomorrow morning somewhere in Lynn &
    driving in as far as he can to view the Tall Ships.  Are time limits
    being applied for the exiting parade planned for tomorrow?  Can you get
    anywhere near the boats?  Is it worth the hassle of trailering from NH,
    lauching & fighting the other boats for viewing?  Is Lynn a good place
    to put in?  etc, etc....
    
    Thanks in advance,
    Sonia

re:.31
Sonia,
	I was anchored out on Specticle Island Green Can 3A and saw them
	come in 10-July....AWESOME.  Afterwards we were allowed to enter
	the Harbour to view them at anchorage.  It was "CROWDED" but
	well worth the "nervous" excitment it caused.  I had to go in because
	I launced in Watertown on the Charles River and went through the
	Charlesgate locks which are near the berth for the Constitution.

	I have a map from the CG that identifies the anchorage positions
	the following info may be of some help as to restrictions in Harbour.
	Just enter the harbour from Deer Island and look for all the boats
	at anchor.  Pick one with boats same size as yours and you should
	be fine.  The CG have put plactic bottles (prestone etc) with numbers
	to mark the boundaries.  Watch out for lobster pot markers in areas.
Hope this helps
dick

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PARITY::RZASA                                        18 lines  27-MAY-1992 09:31
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   !!correction!!  date of the Grand Parade of Sail is July 11th (Sat.)
    FYI  In anticipation of the movement of hundreds of classic sailing
    vessels and thousands of spectator craft through Boston Harbor,designated
    spectator areas will be established. Spectator areas will be available
    on a first come first served basis.Spectator vessels must remain in
    designated spectator areas during the parade of sale. In addition,the
    whole of Boston Harbor will be maintained as a minimum wake zone one
    half hour before, during and immediately after the parade of sail.
      With the exception of parade participants and enforcement vessels, no
    vessel movement will be allowed within Boston Harbor during the tall
    ship parade between 9:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. on July 11th and during the
    tall ship departure between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. on July 16th.
       Emergency channel 16 must remain clear.
       Channel 9 is designated as the new hailing frequency in the northeast
       United States.
       Once the events begin,you will not be able to move your vessel in
    the Harbor!
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Good Luck
dick