| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 179.1 | Anyone found copies yet? | LYMPH::INGRAHAM | Programmer Bob | Sat Jun 07 1986 15:23 | 3 | 
|  |     Has anyone been able to find copies of this report?  I've tried
    a few bookstores in southern NH, but no luck.
    
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| 179.2 | not available yet | ENGGSG::FLIS |  | Sat Jun 07 1986 23:15 | 6 | 
|  |     An informal copy has been delivered to Reagan.  A formal presentation
    will be made on Monday.   It won't be available until then and is
    over 15,000 pages in length.  I don't know if an edited version
    will be available.
    jim
    
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| 179.3 | Abridged version available | CYGNUS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza, ISWS Writing Services | Mon Jun 09 1986 08:43 | 13 | 
|  |     The Bantam volume I mentioned in 179.0 is obviously an abridged
    version of the full Commission report.  I've seen it at the Bookworm
    in Canton, MA and suspect it is at all the major bookstore chains
    or will be shortly.
    
    I would guess the GPO will publish the full report.  I'm not sure
    if it will be available out of any GPO facility except DC.
    
    By the way, the abridged version has a Hollywood title I can't quite
    remember.  Something like "Finding the Next Frontier," or the like.
     The National Commission on Space banner is at the bottom of the
    front cover.  I wish I'd had $14.95 on me when I was in the store,
    so I could be more definitive.
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| 179.4 | There are two reports going on here... | SKYLAB::FISHER | Burns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO1-1/D42 | Mon Jun 09 1986 13:00 | 7 | 
|  |     re .2:  Whooops...hang on.  It is the Challenger accident report
    that was given to Reagan on Friday, with a formal presentation on
    Monday.  I believe that the Challenger report is about 200 pages
    long.
    
    Burns
    
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| 179.5 | Yes, two very different commissions. | EUCLID::PAULHUS |  | Tue Jun 10 1986 10:37 | 9 | 
|  |     
    re. .4   Yup.  The "National Commission on Space" report is a long
    range, goal setting effort: should our next objective be going to
    Mars, a Space Station, a Lunar colony, or ... 
      The group investigating the mission 51L loss is know as the Rodgers
    Commission or the President's invistigation commission.  Two very
    different groups, objectives, reports.  AW&ST had some paintings/
    illustrations from the NCS report a couple of weeks ago - neat!
    			- Chris
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| 179.6 | Paine vs. Rogers | CYGNUS::ALLEGREZZA | George Allegrezza, ISWS Writing Services | Tue Jun 10 1986 10:44 | 24 | 
|  | Re: .4 --
Right.  The Commission I was referring to in the original note was the 
National Commission on Space, the Paine Commission, chartered by the 
President to plot out the US space effort for the next fifty years.  This 
was organized way before the Challenger explosion.  The Rogers Commission 
is the Challenger review group, and their report went to the President on 
Monday, 6/9.
The timing of the Paine Commission report is particularly unfortunate, as 
it comes on the heels of the Rogers Commission findings.  
Emphasis will now be placed on NASA's short-term problems; the 
long term goals of America in space may not get the attention the 
subject deserves.  We need to take advantage of the present hold in the 
program to determine where we are going in space (literally) and how we are 
going to get there.
By the way, on the subject of books, I enthusiastically recommend "The Heavens 
and the Earth: a Political History of the Space Age," by Walter McDougall, 
to anyone with even the remotest interest in space subjects.  The book won the 
1986 Pulitzer Prize in history.  His description of the early days of the 
space program and the events leading up to Sputnik is simply fascinating.
-George
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| 179.7 | Rogers report available | ALIEN::MCCARTHY |  | Fri Jun 13 1986 18:00 | 3 | 
|  |     re: Rogers commission report: The 51L report hit the streets this
    week and should be available at any of the Gov't printing office
    bookstores for $18.
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| 179.8 | Finally found me one | LYMPH::INGRAHAM | Programmer Bob | Fri Jun 13 1986 18:04 | 36 | 
|  |     The National Commission on Space issued its report, called "Pioneering
    the Space Frontier", which is available from Bantam Books for a
    rather hefty $14.95.  I finally found several at the bookstore in
    the Bedford (NH) mall, and I'm sure copies are becoming available
    in galaxies near you.  Reading from the back cover, "Created by
    Congress and appointed by President Ronald Reagan, the National
    Commission on Space was designated to formulate an aggressive civilian
    space agenda to carry America into the 21st Century.  "Pioneering
    the Space Frontier" is the result of their efforts and the complete
    text of their report to the President and Congress."
    
    For those who might be interested, the commission members include:
    	Luis Alvarez		Neil Armstrong
    	Paul Coleman		George Field
    	William Fitch		Charles Herzfeld
    	Jack Kerrebrock		Jeane Kirkpatrick
    	Gerard O'Neill		Thomas Paine
    	Bernard Schriever	Kathryn Sullivan
    	David Webb		Laurel Wilkening
    	Chuck Yeager
   
    
    This report, as noted in previous notes, should not be confused
    with the Rogers (sp?) report on flight 51L of Challenger.  Rather
    it attempts to set an agenda for the next 50 years or so for
    civilian manned space program for the United States.  My initial
    reactions (not having gotten all the way through yet) are that this
    is a good PR document with lots of neat pictures and well-stated
    goals.  It contains interesting background information into many
    areas, but it was written for the President and Congress, so it
    can't get very technical.  I'd love to see something with lots more
    meat on it, but it does pretty well for the job it has to do.
    
    Thanks to .0 for bringing this to our atention.
    
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