| Title: | SAILING |
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| Moderator: | UNIFIX::BERENS |
| Created: | Wed Jul 01 1992 |
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WANTED: LIVE-ABOARD CRUISER
We are looking for a live-aboard for two adults and a child. It need
not be in Bristol condition but must be sound. It would have a nearly
full keel -- some forefoot cut away -- and be strong enough to go
offshore. Wood and FRP are preferred, but we might consider steel.
We have definite limits to our budget, so Swans and Hans Christians and
others of that ilk are way out of our range.
If wood:
LOA: 35 - 42 feet
LWL: 26 or more feet
Beam: 10 - 11 feet
Draft: 5 - 5'8" (might consider sightly more)
Rig: Masthead cutter if on the 35-foot side, masthead yawl if on the
42-foot side. If yawl, it must balance under jib and mizzen; double
headsails would be preferred
If Fiberglas
LOA: 32 - 38 feet
LWL: 26 or more feet
Beam: 10 - 11 feet
Draft: 5 - 5'8"
Rig: Masthead cutter, possibly masthead yawl
Regardless of hull material:
Max Mainsail area: 400 sq feet
Displacement: moderate to heavy
Performance: Should at least move in light airs (7 - 10 knots) with
working sails; or at worst with genoa; Reasonable windward ability
(capable of 90 - 100 degree tacks)
Balanced and able to be steered by a windvane
Diesel engine 25 - 25 hp
Minimum 18 inch side-decks
No bowsprit or short bowsprit
Lead keel
Tankage for 80 or more gallons of water (ideally)
Tiller steering preferred
1 quarter berth, 1 double berth
1 head with shower
wire rigging
self-draining cockpit
Icing on the cake: self-tailing winches, windvane, propane cooking
stove with oven, chart table
Unacceptable: Centerboarder, gaff or fractional rigs, fin keels, light
displacement
Contact: Brian Kologe DTN 264-0940; after 6 pm or weekends
508-388-2640 or MRKTNG::KOLOGE
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1620.1 | Cost | SAGE::KOLOGE | Wed Nov 07 1990 10:16 | 4 | |
I should add that we are trying to keep the cost of the boat below
$40K.
Brian
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| 1620.2 | Performance for 34' Cruisers | MEMORY::LAZGIN | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:16 | 10 | |
Your performance expections sound unrealistic !
Has anyone seen a 34 ft. offshore cuiser go 7 to 10 KNOTS in Light
Wind... (with only 400 sq ft of sail) ??? !!!
Last winter I was on a Swan 50, designed to the IOR rules, and we
'cruised' at 7 knots in moderate air.
Frank
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| 1620.3 | Better be ready to surf/plane!!!!! | ROYALT::FGZ | Fred Genoese-Zerbi Vox Populi Suprema Lex | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:50 | 3 |
Hull speed for a 34' is only ~7.8 Kn.!!!!! | |||||
| 1620.4 | correction | SAGE::KOLOGE | Thu Nov 08 1990 13:58 | 6 | |
Sorry for my lack of clarity. Not move at 7 to 10 knots in light airs,
but overcome inertia in 7 to 10 knots of wind -- so it at least moves
at a few knots in light airs. I'm may be a dreamer, but even I have
limits...
B.
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| 1620.5 | Why? | AKOV11::DJOHNSTON | Thu Nov 08 1990 16:56 | 8 | |
I understood what you meant. The limiting factor is your insistence on
a full keel. By doing so, you are eliminating a whole range of
production boats that meet everything else, including price, you are
looking for. A good example is the C&C 40. Great volume of room
below, plenty of speed, well built and available for your price range
in many markets. Why this full keel thing. This IS the 20th century.
Dave
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