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| 3916.1 |  | TOOK::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Mon Mar 21 1994 12:17 | 8 | 
|  | Well, fennel certainly has an anise-like flavor, but I'm not sure I've ever
seen an anise plant. I don't know about the relationship to the the plant
that produces star anise, either, but judging from the appearance of the
star anise (pod/seed/???) I wouldn't expect that plant to be similar to
fennel.
-Jack
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| 3916.2 |  | ASABET::TRUMPOLT | Liz Trumpolt - 223-7195, MSO2-2/F3 | Mon Mar 21 1994 14:13 | 5 | 
|  |     Yes, Anise and fennel are basicly the same things.  They are both a
    root plant type veggie and when cooked.  They both have a anise flavor
    and can be substituted for one another.
    
    
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| 3916.3 |  | TOOK::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Mon Mar 21 1994 18:38 | 9 | 
|  | re: .2
>    Yes, Anise and fennel are basicly the same things.  They are both a
>    root plant type veggie
The only fennel I'm familiar with is more like celery than any root. Are
we talking about the same things here?
-Jack
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| 3916.4 | Use the leaves! | SNOC02::MASCALL | Art Imitates Life. Again. | Mon Mar 21 1994 18:49 | 14 | 
|  | My Italian almost-mother-in-law uses a handful of the feathery leaves 
in certain dishes (minestrone for example). The leaves look a little 
like dill. You don't need a lot to impart a lovely delicate aniseedy 
seasoning to the dish.
re: -.1 - yes, it looks a lot like a celery, too.
You can eat the 'bulb' raw: just wash it, slice it roughly, pour a 
little olive oil and vinegar over it and crack black pepper on top. 
Fantastic as something to nibble on while you're making Italian food!
~Sheridan~
:^)
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| 3916.5 | P.S. | SNOC02::MASCALL | Art Imitates Life. Again. | Mon Mar 21 1994 18:50 | 8 | 
|  | It grows wild by the sides of the roads in Sydney, no idea why. They 
say wild fennel is stronger in flavour than the ones you get in shops.
In Italian it's 'finocchio'.
~Sheridan~
:^)
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| 3916.6 | Bon Appetit discusses fennel | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Mon Mar 21 1994 21:16 | 7 | 
|  |     There are two types of fennel.  Florence fennel, also known as
    sweet fennel (or by its Italian name finocchio), is grown mainly
    for the swollen "bulb" that forms at the base of the plant.  The other
    type is known as herb, or common, fennel.  It produces lovely
    anise-flavored seeds, but no bulb to speak of.
    
    			[From Bon Appetit, April 1994, p136]
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| 3916.7 |  | PERLE::glantz | Mike, Paris Research Lab, 776-2836 | Tue Mar 22 1994 05:25 | 4 | 
|  | They're similar, but definitely not identical. Anise leaves can be used
in place of fennel leaves in some recipes, but they have a much
stronger licorice flavor. In my opinion, in most recipes calling for
fennel, dill would be a better substitute than anise.
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| 3916.8 | So, have I got it right? | NAPIER::HEALEY | M&ES, MRO4, 297-2426 | Tue Mar 22 1994 08:08 | 18 | 
|  | 
Well, this recipe called for 1/2 C sliced fennel bulb.  I used anise
bulb which looks sort of like celery and has a very delicate flavor.  
I cannot imagine dill as a substitute since it is so strong, however, 
I don't like dill as a seasoning anyhow (but I do like pickles...).
So, it sounds like it depends on the type of fennel called for in
a recipe to determine an adequate substitute.  If I follow your
suggestions, then:
1.  Substitute anise bulb for fennel bulb
2.  Substitute dill for fennel leaves?  This one I'm not sure about.
Karen
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| 3916.9 |  | PERLE::glantz | Mike, Paris Research Lab, 776-2836 | Tue Mar 22 1994 08:15 | 1 | 
|  | I agree with your summary.
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| 3916.10 | Liquorice flavour salads yuk! | SHIPS::ELLIOTT_G | Que hermeso es tenir un amigo | Tue Mar 22 1994 08:44 | 5 | 
|  |     Either one,go easy on amounts as the flavour is overpowering.Personally 
    I dont like the taste of liquorice in food.
    Except of course liquorice itself and Pernod!
    La de da...
    Geoff
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| 3916.11 | salad alternatives | GOLLY::CARROLL | the courage of my contradictions | Tue Mar 22 1994 10:33 | 9 | 
|  |     Raw fennel (the bulb kind) is great it salads!  It's sweet and crunchy. 
    I like it with red pepper and some strongly flavored not-sweet lettuce
    (romaine, sometimes with spinach too) to offset the sweet of those
    things.
    
    It doesn't mix well with some dressings, though.  I wouldn't want, say,
    thousand island with fennel.
    
    D!
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| 3916.12 | Bronze and green and blubs. | SUBURB::MCDONALDA | Shockwave Rider | Tue Mar 22 1994 11:08 | 7 | 
|  |     I've grown bronze Fennel. Its very pretty, seeds itself with promiscous
    zeal and has a strong Aniseed smell. A border with the odd bronze and
    green Fennel plant looks spectacular. I haven't tried cooking with
    bronze Fennel. I don't think I recall seeing a bulb on the Bronze
    Fennel plants I've had.
    
    Angus
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| 3916.13 | Finnochio | SEABRZ::SEELEY |  | Tue Mar 22 1994 12:55 | 4 | 
|  | My mother (Italian) loves to have some "finnochio" (finn-o'-kia) after a meal
on holidays.  She just eats it plain like celery sticks.
Lauren
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| 3916.14 | also a diet aid | ODIXIE::KISTEMAKER |  | Fri Apr 01 1994 13:38 | 4 | 
|  |     I have also heard that fennel is used as a diet aid.  It suppresses
    the appetite.  
    
    Alona
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| 3916.15 |  | STYMPY::TOWLE |  | Thu Apr 28 1994 19:22 | 4 | 
|  |     
    	I add about a teaspoon of fennel seed to a batch of spagetti sauce.
    	I pour it into my palm, crush it briefly between my fingers, and
    	dump it into the sauce and let it cook for the next two hours.
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| 3916.16 | fennel bulb | ADISSW::HAECK | Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! | Fri Mar 21 1997 14:48 | 6 | 
|  | I found a recipe that calls for fennel bulb.  Can I substitute fennel seed?
This is for a soup, if that makes a difference.
Alternately, where in S. NH would I find fennel bulb?  I looked in the herb
section at the supermarket.  Maybe I should look more in the green leafy
things like beet greens and swiss chard?
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| 3916.17 |  | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | person B | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:33 | 6 | 
|  | 
  .16  Fennel bulb is a largish white section of the fennel, resembling
       the white part of celery only much wider.  If it's the main
       textural ingredient in the soup, then no, you can't substitute
       fennel seed.  
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| 3916.18 |  | TURRIS::lspace.zko.dec.com::winalski | PLIT Happens... | Fri Mar 21 1997 15:55 | 6 | 
|  | RE: .16
You definitely want to look in the produce section, amongst the leafy 
vegetables.
--PSW
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| 3916.19 |  | MPGS::MILLS |  | Mon Mar 24 1997 09:53 | 1 | 
|  |     And, typically, the grocers label fennel as anise.
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