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    I'd like to know, too.  Please reply here.
    
    
    John

    I know this has nothing to do with cooking, but does anyone know
    how to modify an entry ???
    
    Thanks.
    
    Sandy

    Type HELP MOD ENT at the Notes> prompt.  If anything
    in the online Help is confusing, let me know (I'm
    the Notes writer).
    
    Mary Alice Richardson

    
    Back to the cookbook, inquiring minds would like to know about it.
    

    You can find the cookbook on 
    
    	$ Dir OCTAVE::DJA1:[CB]*.ps
    
    The entire cookbook is 29,076 blocks long, but you can get it a chapter
    at a time to save disk space.
    
    Warm Regards,
    Janet
    :-)
    

    
    Something that a noting friend and I did was to buy our own paper and
    print it out on the week-end (and to print it two-sided).  That way, we
    weren't using the company's paper, and we were able to use pre-punched
    paper (it made life much easier).
    
    When printing to an LPS20 (and LPS40?), use /param=side=2  .
    
    Sarah
    

    
    For us dummies that can not seem to get a copy of the cookbook to 
    transfer, how do you transfer or copy the book?  I tried to transfer a
    copy to my disc and ended up with 80K blocks locked up and had to get
    computer operations to kill the system before --------!!!!.
    
    This has been one of those days(daze) when you wish you were directing
    traffic on the freeway. :^(
    
    Thanks for the help, I need all I can get.

           How does one extract something from Dir OCTAVE::DJ1......?

  For anybody who is interested, I've generated a BookReader version of the
cookbook.  The total space is just over 17,000 blocks.

  The files are at:

	SHAR::SHAR$:[EIKENBERRY.PUBLIC]COOKBOOK.DECW$BOOK
	SHAR::SHAR$:[EIKENBERRY.PUBLIC]COOKBOOK.DECW$BOOKSHELF

My node - SHAR - is a hidden node within ZKO.  I don't know how outside 
folks can get to my workstation - perhaps by using another node as a 
pass-thru node?

  To read the cookbook:

	$ br :== $sys$system:decw$bookreader.exe
	$ br <full path name>COOKBOOK.DECW$BOOKSHELF

  There's no index because of a hard-coded limit within Document.  But it's
great fun to browse through!  Much easier than flipping through a hard
copy that weighs a ton!

--Sharon

Sharon,

I am very interested in the bookreader format, but I am having difficulty in 
seeing shar, presumably because it is hidden.


Can you ask your MIS folks how the files can be copied, please?


Thanks,

Ann.

  I *think* you can copy them using the path 

	TLE::SHAR::SHAR$:[EIKENBERRY.PUBLIC]

--Sharon

RE  last couple --

I think you can get to just about any hidden node through VORTEX.  For
example, VORTEX::SHAR::SHAR$:[EIKENBERRY.PUBLIC].

RE .6 -- 

> When printing to an LPS20 (and LPS40?), use /param=side=2  .
                                 ^^^^^^

Nope, won't work with an LPS40.  They don't print two-sided.

							-- Nina

    I have tried to print various chapters from the cookbook without any
    success.
    
    I do not have access to the $ prompt normally but somebody "fiddled" on
    my terminal and hey presto!  However when I sent the job to my LN03,
    following the instructions I'd been given, it dissapeared.  This has 
    happened each time I've tried.  Can anybody help a system illiterate to 
    complete what looks like it should be a simple task?
    
    Thanks
    
    Gary 
                                                                

    Been over a year since the last note here.  I wonder if people are
    still around.
    
    My question is:  Is the cookbook updated with the new recipes since
    last one entered?  I wonder if the recipes in it stopped with the
    creation of it and none further.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Ferne
    

 Has anyone seen this book?  I have searched some of the online
 references but could not located the title.

 Steve Kallis wrote in 1985 that is was a `series of kitchen-tested recipes'
 in a discussion of middle ages cooking.

 Bruce

 This book was not located in an online search, has anyone
 used it?

 Steve Kallis wrote in 1985 in the SCA conference:
Also, I once ran across _A Fifteenth Century Cookery 
Book_, whose author/editor I don't recall.  The only trouble is the book
is printed in Middle English, and the recipes are untested.  One of
the spices, by the way, is Sandalwood, which I suppose they slivered
or ground (high fiber, anyway).

The medieval recipes are qualitative, but not quantative.  "Take fair
mete," for instance, tells you what the ingredient (more or less) is,
but not how much of it to use.  This is true for the majority of recipes
I've seen.

    I've got a copy of "A Pleine Delight" at home.  I'll check the ISBN
    tonight.
    

>    I've got a copy of "A Pleine Delight" at home.  I'll check the ISBN
>    tonight.

Wow, it's been a loooong night.... :-)

-- Nina (catching up on this conference)

    Pleyn Delit
    
    Medieval Cookery for Modern Cooks
    Constance B. Hieatt & Sharon Butler
    University of Toronto Press 1974
    Paperback Reprinted 1985
    ISBN 0-8020-6366-7
    
    A excellent bookstore for current and out-of-print cookbooks is:
    
    Kitchen Arts & Letters
    1435 Lexington Ave. (between 93rd & 94th)
    New York, NY  10128
    212-876-5550

    .16:
    
    Sass, Lorna J.
       To the King's taste.
    
    TX705.S33		641.5'942		75-17859
    			(hm, that's an odd Dewey #)
    ISBN 0-87099-133-7
    
    (C) 1975 by The Metropolitan Museum of Art
    
    
    Sass, Lorna J.
       To the queen's taste.
    
    TX717.S32		641.5'942		76-23242
              
    (C) 1976 by Lorna J. Sass
    	(but printed by the Metropolitan)
    
    Dick

    .17:
    
    Lorna Sass's preface to "To the King's Taste" mentions "Two Fifteenth
    Century Cookery Books", published by the Early English Text Society.
    "A few years ago" (in 1975) she found them in the Columbia University
    library.  Couldn't guess whether they're still available.
    
    
    If you can stand to deal with stuff from 12 to 14 decades later (i.e.,
    1590-1620), you might consider
    
    Sallets, Humbles, and Shrewsbery Cakes
    by Ruth Anne Beebe (David R. Godine, Boston, 1976)
    
    	ISBN 0-87923-195-5; LoC 76-14226
    
    Like the other books mentioned here, it has the advantage of providing
    both the original text of the "receipts" and adaptations to
    contemporary American kitchens.
    
    Dick

 Current status appears that the book is in a reprint/republish cycle.


Pleyn Delit : Medieval Cookery for Modern Cooks; Constance B. Hieatt, et al;
Hardcover; $40.50 
(Not Yet Published -- On Order)

Pleyn Delit : Medieval Cookery for Modern Cooks; Constance B. Hieatt, et al;
Paperback; $15.26 
(Not Yet Published -- On Order)

 from a search on http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ats-query/2335-1501038-902264


 Bruce