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| 1927.1 | 4S bid really cramped the auction | DAVIDB::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Mon Feb 10 1997 12:46 | 31 | 
|  | 	Close Bill, my hand was x-ATxx-AKxxx-Axx (One more D, one less C)
	Our agreements said 2H and 2S were "invisible cuebids" over the
	2D (Michaels) call.  I had forgotten which was which, but they
	are supposed to be:
		2H (Lowest cuebid) - Support for partner, 10+ pts
		2S (Higher cuebid) - Shows length in 4th suit, 10+ pts
	We have some disagreement on whether 3C in this auction should be
	forcing or non-forcing.  I think it should be a weak hand with
	nothing but clubs.  Partner thinks it should still be forcing,
	which is our current agreement after a previous misunderstanding,
	when I thought partner could cue first and raise later to show
	extra strength.  (I passed 3C making 5, if I recall) 3D is just
	a competitive bid.
	The big question is, what do I do over 4S?  I know partner's
	cards are probably working.  But does he have wasted or extra
	heart length that could hurt us?
	It seems my choices were an undiscussed 4N, 5C, or a 5H cuebid
	that would commit us to slam.  I suppose 5N (Pick a minor slam)
	could also be a choice - but I hope it's not misconstrued as GSF
	in clubs!  4N might be interesting to have as an agreement as
	"quantitative pick".  Partner could then see the double-fit and
	may try 6C.
	Opinions greatly appreciated,
	-Dave
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| 1927.2 | In my opinion... | CADSYS::GROSS | The bug stops here | Mon Feb 10 1997 13:59 | 9 | 
|  | The hand with first round control of 3 suits and second round control of the 4th
suit has to make a move towards slam. Partner may well have a hand suitable for
slam, yet make no move because of ZERO first-round controls.
The problem here is the only bid between 5C and where we are (4S) is 4NT, and
I'm not sure how that would be interpreted. Since the opponents want to preempt
me out of something, I'd be delighted to bid 6C and see if they want to save.
Dave
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| 1927.3 | Pick a slam | CSLALL::16.29.16.112::JKeenan | Jay Keenan (603) 883-7913 | Mon Feb 10 1997 14:08 | 7 | 
|  | My call at the bar, before ingestion of too many beers, was 5H over 
4S. Commits to slam, leaves choice of minors and shows the HA on the 
way by. I know slam may be hopeless, but 7 may be ice and partner 
would have to pass 5C. Just too prime a hand to bid 5C. Besides, even 
if we can't make 6, the opponents may not know it.
Jay
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| 1927.4 | with interference, it's a shootout anyway... | STAR::STILES | When in doubt, hack. | Mon Feb 10 1997 16:04 | 11 | 
|  | I like Jay's 5H bid.
My hand (North) had both minor tens, as well:
xxx-x-QJT-KQJTxx	May have even had the 9 of clubs --
			it was good enough with the diamond tolerance
			and singleton to venture the 2S bid.
But it can't possibly go looking for slam without a clue from partner...
					- Mark
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| 1927.5 | they were too busy arguing over the number they went for on another hand... | GAAS::BRAUCHER | Champagne  Supernova | Tue Feb 11 1997 08:04 | 4 | 
|  | 
  By the way, I never heard.  What was our teammates ineffective auction ?
  bb
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| 1927.6 | Your guess is as good as mine | DAVIDB::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Wed Feb 12 1997 13:19 | 3 | 
|  | >  By the way, I never heard.  What was our teammates ineffective auction ?
	Don't know.  Probably 1D-2D-3C-4S-5C.
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| 1927.7 | In retrospect | DAVIDB::DMILLER | This bug fix broke what??????? | Wed Feb 12 1997 13:23 | 3 | 
|  | 	I think it's the double fit that makes this such as nice slam.  So
	the only way to find it would be if 4N was some sort of quantitative
	bid showing club support and extra diamond length.
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