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| 483.1 | alright, so Richard Money was pretty bad | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Anybody except Stuart Stratford | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:38 | 8 | 
|  |     Creating this topic roves that I have nothing to do at work because I cant
    even think of a player to enter into the topic!
    
    Mind you, having always supported Liverpool. Its hard to think of a bad
    player! (comment designed to open the floodgates!)
    
    Ian.
    
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| 483.2 | Celtic all-time greats... | VYGER::REIDI | Celtic FC Scottish Cup Champions 1995 | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:41 | 5 | 
|  |     
    Wayne Biggins, Martin Hayes, Ian Andrews, Anton Rogan, the list 
    is endless.....
    
    Choppers
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| 483.3 | barnsley hero | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Anybody except Stuart Stratford | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:42 | 7 | 
|  |     
    > Wayne Biggins
    
    Isnt he the one with the smart back-flips???
    A Barnsley legend!
    
    Ian.
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| 483.4 | There's only one . | CHEFS::EDWARDSD |  | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:42 | 2 | 
|  |     Ralph Milne - Fergie, what were you thinking of ??????
    
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| 483.5 | obviously another of fergies babes | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Anybody except Stuart Stratford | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:48 | 4 | 
|  |     
    > Ralph Milne
    
    Who?
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| 483.6 |  | YUPPY::OHAGANB | Meals on Wheels of Steel | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:54 | 1 | 
|  |     Don McAllister, Spurs.
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| 483.7 | Gus Caesar | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | naive and gullible | Mon Jun 05 1995 15:59 | 14 | 
|  |     re .1
    
    >Creating this topic roves that I have nothing to do at work because I
                         ^^^^^
    >cant even think of a player to enter into the topic!
       ^^
    
    oh dear, etc.
    
    Ian,
    
    I thought you were having a row in the F1 conference ;^)
    
    Stuart
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| 483.8 | mines a 46 inch waist please | MUGGER::HUGHESS | SOLUTIONS SUPPORT GROUP | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:02 | 6 | 
|  |     John Barnes........
    
    
    for when he pulls on an England shirt.
    
    
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| 483.9 |  | CHEFS::EDWARDSD |  | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:14 | 9 | 
|  |     Ian,
    
    You cannot be serious - surely you've heard of the Great Ralph Milne
    of Bristol City (aaaagh - cue Malc) fame !  He was one of Fergie first
    (major) signings.  I think he cost about 1.? million and he was
    absolute sh!te.
    
    Dave
    
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| 483.10 | This is a demo for Paul Scouse Weir ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Cop for that, our kid | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:38 | 8 | 
|  |     
    Dave
    
    	Ralph Milne (of Dundee United ?) never played for Bristol City. Did
    he ?
    
    Malc.
    
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| 483.11 |  | CHEFS::EDWARDSD |  | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:43 | 4 | 
|  |     Malc,
    
    I'm 99.9% sure that's where fergie dug him up from (unless it was all
    just a bad dream .........) 
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| 483.12 |  | CHEFS::STRATFORDS | foul mouthed and evil tempered | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:46 | 9 | 
|  |     Malc,
    
    He did.
    
    Dave
    
    I thought it was where Fergie off-loaded him to.
    
    Stuart
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| 483.13 | Confirmed | CHEFS::EDWARDSD |  | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:54 | 6 | 
|  |     Stuart,
    
    Fergie definitely bought Ralphie-baby from Bristol City, although the
    fee was about 300K not the 1.something million I stated earlier.
    
    
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| 483.14 |  | FORTY2::FOWLERM | Grimsby Liberation Front | Mon Jun 05 1995 16:55 | 5 | 
|  | Pshaw, everyone knows that the worst player ever was Torben Piechnik.
For worst as in dirtiest who was that Spurs defender? Mark Dennis?
mike
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| 483.15 |  | YUPPY::ASHLEYSMITH | ironing the irony board | Mon Jun 05 1995 17:03 | 14 | 
|  |     At Chelsea - Alan Mayes - truly dreadful. Having said that I did
    actually see him score a hat-trick against Cambridge once when the
    Blues were languishing in the bottom half of the old Second Division
    many years ago. The ball just seem to hit him and go in, three times.
    
    Of current players I can remember an incredibly bad performance
    from a Palace midfielder called Bobby Bowry (Bowery?) on TV a couple 
    of years ago. He was absolutely abysmal and appeared to genuinely 
    not have a clue. Messrs Panes & Pateman can probably confirm whether
    this was a 'one-off' or whether he was always like that. Don't seem
    to recall him playing much last season.
    
    Andy
        
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| 483.16 |  | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY |  | Tue Jun 06 1995 12:30 | 6 | 
|  |     
    Don Howe.......now this is MEANT to open the floodgates. How can such
    an awful player be promoted to such an elevated level in the FA. I
    guess the Will Carling brigade will have something to day about that...
    
    Dezzz.
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| 483.17 | Peter Ward's sidekick...ha, ha! | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jun 06 1995 14:34 | 9 | 
|  |     Cruel game, this. I think it probably narrows it down a bit if you
    stick to your home club. In which case, I don't think many Brighton
    fans can have forgotten (or forgiven!) old daddy-longlegs himself, Ian
    Mellor.
    
    I don't want to be too unkind because he did have his moments...let's
    just say that he didn't have too many of them for Brighton!
    
    Dom
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| 483.18 |  | TRUCKS::SANT | Go on, give it one more turn.... | Tue Jun 06 1995 14:36 | 7 | 
|  |     
    	Or Norwich.
    	Or Man City.
    
    	If it's the same Ian Mellor I'm remembering...
    
    	Andy.
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| 483.19 | Much-travelled...I wonder why ;-) | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jun 06 1995 14:44 | 6 | 
|  |     	>If it's the same Ian Mellor I'm remembering...
    
    The very same ;-)
    
    
    
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| 483.20 | Frank's older brother | YUPPY::ANDERSONR | Euro-Cup & Relegation Double | Tue Jun 06 1995 16:12 | 1 | 
|  |     Bob Worthington
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| 483.21 |  | RTOVC0::DCASSIDY |  | Tue Jun 06 1995 16:26 | 6 | 
|  |     
    I remember years ago when living in Fulham and used to occasionaly get
    down to Stamford Bridge...my goodness did Ray Wilkin's brother (Graham
    ?) get a lot of stick from the locals... he wasn't that bad was he ??
    
    Dezzz.                                                             
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| 483.22 | oo aa ray wilkins | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Anybody except Stuart Stratford | Tue Jun 06 1995 16:32 | 6 | 
|  |     
    I met Ray Wilkins' brother at a hotel in the caribbean.
    Strong resemblance! (between him and his brother, not his brother and
    the hotel!)
    
    Ian.
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| 483.23 |  | VARESE::SACHA::IDC_BSTR | Oh no! NOT Milan Kundera again! | Tue Jun 06 1995 16:47 | 7 | 
|  |     Taking the conversation in a full circle back to Brighton:
    
    Not a lot of people know that the "other" Wilkins brother, Dean, plays
    (played?) for Brighton. Unfortunately, I think he has more in common
    with Graham than Ray (from a footballing point-of-view).
    
    Dom
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| 483.24 | Stuart Kennedy: The worst goalkeeper EVER !!! | KIRKTN::JJACK | Against the famine & the crown.... | Tue Jun 06 1995 22:45 | 28 | 
|  |     
    In the early 80's, Celtic had some real duffers on the books. Two that
    spring to mind were Graeme Sinclair (A sort of cross between a farmer
    and an Albino), and Willie Garner (Around 18 stones & scored two OG's
    on his debut for the Bhoys against St.Mirren in a League Cup section
    match......in I think...1980).
    
    However, no-one noticed how awful these two players were at this time,
    coz over at Ibrox, there were more than enough huddies to keep
    everyone's attention away from Parkhead.
    Can any of you huns remember Gregor Stevens (Made Freddy Kruger look
    like Tom Cruise) ?  And what about Andy Kennedy (raingurs answer to
    the then in form Charlie Nicholas) ?
    
    However, the worst player I've ever had the displeasure of watching,
    without a shadow of a doubt, the Huddie of the century in Scottish
    football......1st prize goes to Brian Whittaker (ex-Partick Thistle).
    
    I don't believe to this day that we signed this clown (He resembled a
    hairdresser.......a bad one !). 
    
    Getting back to Graeme Sinclair though, I must admit, that when I was
    in Holland in 1982 (Watching the Bhoys gub Ajax 2-1) in a European Cup
    tie, the aforementioned `Sinky', marked the talented (But getting old)
    Johann Cruyff out of the game. He played a stormer that night.
    He must have been on drugs (Or maybe Cruyff was ???).
    
    
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| 483.25 | Stewart Kennedy deserves a mention. | KIRKTN::DROONEY | Lifes a beach | Tue Jun 06 1995 22:45 | 6 | 
|  |     
    Tommy Docherty said that the worst player he`d ever seen was....
    
    Jimmy Hill.
    
    Davie
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| 483.26 | Dave Beasant may qualify soon. | KIRKTN::DROONEY | Lifes a beach | Wed Jun 07 1995 01:52 | 7 | 
|  |     
    Spooky...
    
    Check the time of the last two notes.....and we both mentioned
    Stewart Kennedy.
    
    Davie.
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| 483.27 | Jim Denny deserves a mention hers as well..... | BHAJI::ISUTHERLAND | Same Sh*t...Different day. | Wed Jun 07 1995 08:49 | 7 | 
|  |     
    C'mon now boys.Stewart Kennedy was never as bad as Ally Maxwell.
    People seem only to remember him for his display et Wembley in 1975.
    That game apart,he was a more than adequate 'keeper,but he was never
    the same after this match.
    
    JJ,do you remember Frank Munro ?
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| 483.28 | Stuart Kennedy - there i've mentioned it | AYOV27::FW_TEMP01 | Billericay 6 Farnboro 0 (FAVase SF 81) | Wed Jun 07 1995 08:57 | 4 | 
|  | Was it Stuart Kennedy who was swinging from the crossbar for Rangers in 
some Scottish Cup Final while the ball bounced into the net?
John Hussey
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| 483.29 | I felt sorry for the guy at the time, honest ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Cop for that, our kid | Wed Jun 07 1995 09:02 | 10 | 
|  |     
    	Though I hate to admit it, ISUTHERLAND is right. Kennedy should not
    be totally condemned for having one very bad game (although it totally
    destroyed his confidence and he was never the same player again). He
    was at the end of a season where he had done some sterling stuff for
    Rangers and full deserved his first caps in the home internationals of
    that year (the date of which I can't remember. Can anyone enlighten me?).
    
    Malc.
    
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| 483.30 | Ooops ... | AYOV29::MTHEODORESON | Cop for that, our kid | Wed Jun 07 1995 09:04 | 3 | 
|  |     
    Sorry I missed the 1975 in 27. John that was Peter McCloy.
    
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| 483.31 | ** = Added specifically for the benefit of big Colin. ;>) | BHAJI::ISUTHERLAND | Same Sh*t...Different day. | Wed Jun 07 1995 09:10 | 7 | 
|  |     
    No John,that was big "gas meter".(Peter McCloy) v the sheep 1978
    Scottish Cup final,**(which Rangers won 2-1,thus securing the TREBLE
    for a record fourth time).**
    
    BTW,*STUART* Kennedy was the sheep's right-back at that time.
    *STEWART* Kennedy was the ex-Ranger.
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| 483.32 | Another two of Rangers' "finest". | BHAJI::ISUTHERLAND | Same Sh*t...Different day. | Wed Jun 07 1995 17:59 | 9 | 
|  |     
    Just thought of another two who would (dis)grace this "wonderful"
    squad.
    
    
    Ally Scott and Billy Urquart.What a lethal front pairing these two
    would make....
    
    NOT!!!!
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| 483.33 | Johnny Crumplin Footballing Genius | WOTVAX::DAVIESG | Guy Davies | Thu Jun 08 1995 17:45 | 9 | 
|  |     Does anyone else remember Johnny Crumplin of Brighton & Hove Albion,
    imortalised by the "Footballing Genius" title the Seagulls fans gave
    him. Hence many amuzing T-shirts and songs.
    
    Johnny was well known for hoofing the ball out of the ground at least 5
    times a game. He was also the slowest player in division 3, mentally
    and physically.
    
    Guy
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| 483.34 | Danny Crainie - he was really Sh!te | AYOV25::SLITTLEJOHN |  | Fri Jun 09 1995 08:19 | 10 | 
|  | 
I remember a Killie home match last season when the team was being
announced over the Tannoy and Danny Crainie was playing.....it's the 
only time I've ever heard such a huge groan from the terracing followed 
by comments like  "oh for f%cks sake". His only claim at being a 
footballer was in a match against Partick Thistle where he scored from
the half way line, I'm still convinced it wasn't meant and it was 
really just his usual huge punt up the park. 
Stuart 
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| 483.35 | Hope I`m wrong... | KIRKTN::DROONEY | Lifes a beach | Fri Jun 09 1995 20:38 | 12 | 
|  |     
    After what I saw of the England Sweden match last night I think
    Warren Barton may be the most expensive dumpling of all time.
    Maybe I`m being a bit hard on him at this early stage of his
    international career and he may take time to adjust to the pace
    of a higher level,but he kept diving in and offered nothing in
    an attacking sense.
    
    Incidently,who does the guy Cooper play with,he looked a bit
    suspect as well.
    
    Davie
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| 483.36 | Circle Game! | MSAM03::ROBERTLIM | Digital in Malaysia | Sat Jun 10 1995 20:01 | 7 | 
|  |     Peter Sullivan, Brighton winger/midfuddler during the late 70's!
    
    In four years I have never seen him pass the ball forward nor run
    straight at opposition.  He is always running around the center-circle
    with the ball and losing possession.  Real seaweed ...              
    
    Robert
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| 483.37 | dirty git | WOTVAX::NEARYM | VINI..VIDI..VICI | Wed Jun 21 1995 15:55 | 7 | 
|  |     Hey 
    
    
    Brian Robson what a dirty git he was in his later years, he should
    of ended his career when he was 30.
    
    
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| 483.38 |  | CHEFS::EDWARDSD |  | Wed Jun 21 1995 15:59 | 9 | 
|  |     >Hey
    >Brian Robson what a dirty git he was in his later years, he should
    >of ended his career when he was 30.
    
    Hey
    
    Duncan Ferguson what a dirty git he was in his younger years, he should
    of ended his career when he was 24.
    
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| 483.39 |  | KERNEL::WITHALLG | We Don't Do Duvets ....... | Thu Jun 22 1995 15:58 | 9 | 
|  |     
    re. 33  
    
    John Crumplin is at Woking now. 
    
    We actually quite like him.
    
    
    
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| 483.40 | He was not a great player | PIECES::DAYLER::oneills | seachain na neantoga | Thu Aug 17 1995 14:03 | 6 | 
|  | Eamonn Dunphy of ManU reserves, Millwall, Charlton and Reading.
He should have stuck to cleaning Johnny Giles boots rather than dirtying his nose on TV.
Shane
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| 483.41 | dumplings the lot of them | IRPC01::JMCFARLAND |  | Fri Sep 01 1995 11:52 | 10 | 
|  |     Basil Boli one of the most over rated players i have ever seen he is
    absouloutely Bo**&^$s and i fancy leeds to take about 7 off monaco if
    that big dumpling is at the centre of Defence.  (not that i like leeds
    or anything).  Also Mark Wright of Liverpool must be one of the worst
    signings the pool have ever made he is crap.  and last but not least
    the trio that celtic have all had playing in their team  Owen Archdicon
    Wayne Biggins And Tony Cascarino need i say more.
    
    Big Jock
    
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| 483.42 | and i'm a celtic sympathiser/rangers hater | COMICS::HAWLEYI | Mr Flibble says: Game over boys | Fri Sep 01 1995 11:59 | 13 | 
|  |     
    Owen Archdeacon was fabulous for Barnsley. Biggins wasnt that bad
    either.
    
    Maybe they should have set their sights lower from the start.
    
    Then again, in the Celtic team of the late 80's/early 90's, even if they
    were THAT bad I would be suprised if the stood out from the rest of
    them.
    
    hugs,
    
    Ian.
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| 483.43 | Gary Birtles was pretty awful !! | CHEFS::RUTHERFORDI | A)bort R)etry F)*** It !! | Fri Sep 01 1995 13:27 | 8 | 
|  |     I have to say that Dale Gordon was probably the worst signing that
    Rangers have made in recent history. Mike Phelan was sh*te for Man Utd,
    Gary Ablett is an absolute donkey, Dave Beasant, Richard Edghill, Eddie
    McGoldrick and Jason Lee are all B*&&*�$! and the worst of the lot has
    to be Francis Benali of Southampton. Absolute Pish !!!
    
    
    Ian.
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| 483.44 | Ralph??? | WARFUT::STOCKMANS |  | Fri Sep 01 1995 15:04 | 18 | 
|  | Mike Phelan wasn't S***e for us.
At the time I felt he did a job, not brilliant, but a good
solid job for us.
The funniest thing I remember about Micky was that on a certain
evening he was saying how he'd love to get a goal for us as he'd
been out injured for a spell.
Wooooould you believe it, the sod scored & I missed the goal stuck
in a queue trying to get in!
The game was all ticket an all so I was a tad surprised to find these
HHHUUUUUGGGGGGEEEEEE queues upon turning up.
My worst player anyway has to be Ralph Milne! He was garbo with a capital
				`G'!!!!!!!!
Si
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| 483.45 |  | TUXEDO::HINXMAN | Let's all laugh for a moment | Fri Sep 01 1995 21:25 | 4 | 
|  |     I think I've said it before. If you think Francis Benali is bad, you
    haven't seen Simon Charlton.
    
    ony
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