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| 131.1 | | QETOO::CHAVES | a broken clock is right twice a day | Wed Dec 11 1991 16:33 | 5 |
| How about Wales' chances? Anyone believe, as I do, that Wales has
enough scoring punch to qualify? With Giggs now on the team I'm hoping
to see Wales in the US. Who' their keeper?
JC
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| 131.2 | Southall | BONNET::ZIJL | The one who always loses his SODEXHO card | Wed Dec 11 1991 16:36 | 3 |
| Goalie is Southall I think.
Rob
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| 131.3 | Service with a smile!! | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | Your man on the Northern front | Fri Jan 10 1992 12:05 | 36 |
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Here are the fixtures for World Cup qualifying group 4
22-Apr-1992 Belgium - Cyprus
06-May-1992 Romania - Faroe Islands
20-May-1992 Romania - Wales
03-Jun-1992 Faroe Islands - Belgium
17-Jun-1992 Faroe Islands - Cyprus
02-Sep-1992 Czechoslovakia - Belgium
09-Sep-1992 Wales - Faroe Islands
23-Sep-1992 Czechoslovakia - Faroe Islands
14-Oct-1992 Belgium - Romania
14-Oct-1992 Cyprus - Wales
14-Nov-1992 Romania - Czechoslovakia
18-Nov-1992 Wales - Belgium
29-Nov-1992 Cyprus - Romania
14-Feb-1993 Cyprus - Belgium
24-Mar-1993 Cyprus - Czechoslovakia
31-Mar-1993 Belgium - Wales
14-Apr-1993 Romania - Cyprus
25-Apr-1993 Cyprus - Faroe Islands
28-Apr-1993 Czechoslovakia - Wales
22-May-1993 Belgium - Faroe Islands
02-Jun-1993 Czechoslovakia - Romania
06-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Wales
16-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Czechoslovakia
08-Sep-1993 Wales - Czechoslovakia
08-Sep-1993 Faroe Islands - Romania
13-Oct-1993 Romania - Belgium
13-Oct-1993 Wales - Cyprus
27-Oct-1993 Czechoslovakia - Cyprus
17-Nov-1993 Wales - Romania
17-Nov-1993 Belgium - Czechoslovakia
Mats
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| 131.4 | Here we go | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Wed Apr 22 1992 17:41 | 4 |
|
The world cup has started!
Belgium play Cyprus today...
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| 131.5 | Already going in South/central America | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | More Ship dates than actual Ships | Thu Apr 23 1992 00:33 | 8 |
| Um actually it started a few weeks ago ...
there were two games Puerto Rico vs Honduras and one that escapes me
- I remember seeing them on UniVision.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.6 | Result | XSTACY::PATTISON | Tree! | Thu Apr 23 1992 09:36 | 5 |
|
Belgium 1 Cyprus 0
almost a slip-up there
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| 131.7 | 2 points....but! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Thu Apr 23 1992 14:44 | 19 |
| Very disappointing game. My personnal opinion is that 2 people are to blaim with
this poor result.In first place the coach. When Belgium played in Tunis we were
playing with 5 defenders against Tunisie as where we should have played as an
offensive team in preparation of the games against Cypres and Faroer. Now the
Belgian team didn't now how to beat a very defensive opponent with the result
they only scored once, and this goal was even a huge mistake of the goalie of
Cypres.
The second person to blame was Enzo Scifo.He is a world class player,if he
would play for the team.But yesterday he was more concerned for his own game
and to show everybody what his skills are.Result, the offensive compartiment of
the team was not feeded well and we got only one goal.
Anyway,we got two points and that's what counts.In a couple of weeks we travel
to the Faroer for another win.That means that the other candidats for the 2
tickets always faces a deficit to the Belgian team.
U.S. here we come!!
Patrick
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| 131.8 | Never underestimate your opponants | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | Your man on the Northern front | Thu Apr 23 1992 16:00 | 16 |
|
>Anyway,we got two points and that's what counts.In a couple of weeks we travel
>to the Faroer for another win.That means that the other candidats for the 2
>tickets always faces a deficit to the Belgian team.
>U.S. here we come!!
>Patrick
Don't be to sure!! Remember what happened to the Austrians... The
Faroes finally gets to play on their home ground, and is eger to show
the home crowd what they can.
Mats
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| 131.9 | Time to get it together... | SALES::THILL | | Thu Apr 23 1992 17:11 | 9 |
| That 1-0 result does look a bit shaky. I hope they can re-group against
the Faroes for a comfortable (2-3 goals) win. About Austria losing, I
think they were definitely taking them for granted. Sure, it *could*
happen again, but if Belgium play anywhere close to the level they are
capable, it shouldn't. Anything less thn full points against the
"minnows" would be a disaster, since there are some quality teams in
this group.
Tom
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| 131.10 | Good luck on the islands | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | Your man on the Northern front | Fri Apr 24 1992 12:31 | 16 |
|
Tom, i agree with you. Nine times out of ten Belgium will beat the
Faroes with a margin of 3-4 goals. But every now and then, a top team in
Europe loses a point or even two against the "minnows", ant that the charm
of international football. It also proves how difficult it is to just
"collect" two points against such nations. Last WC qualification Sweden
played Albania, and were 1-0 down in both games. And against Costa Rica
who was concidered to be a third rate nation we lost 1-2.
To play a team with nine defenders, and who's counter-attacs are very
dangerous is difficult. A early goal often solves the problem, but
having 0-0 and ten minutes to go it's easy to panic. So, never take
anything for grantage. (As i did in the WC and put SEK 500 on Sweden
winning over Costa Rica:-()
Mats
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| 131.11 | Romania win | XSTACY::PATTISON | All's well that ends | Thu May 07 1992 11:06 | 7 |
|
Result:
Romania 7 Faroes 0
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| 131.12 | And again... | XSTACY::PATTISON | Contraversial as fluff | Wed May 20 1992 23:20 | 16 |
|
Romania 5 Wales 1
Romania continue their impressive start with an emphatic
win, up 5-0 after 35 minutes.
I only saw the goals. Southall punched one into his own net
from a 30 yard volley that came straight at him. All the others
were down to hopeless defensive marking.
Saunders and Rush combined well for a good goal in the second
half. But its still their worst defeat since the 1970's.
Dave
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| 131.13 | | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Thu Jun 04 1992 10:31 | 3 |
| Belgium (1) 3 Faroe Islands (0) 0
Albert 29
Wilmots 65,71
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| 131.14 | Faroes can still qualify... | XSTACY::PATTISON | Where's me jumper? | Mon Jun 22 1992 11:50 | 6 |
|
From last week...
Cyprus 2 Faroes 0
The first time I can ever remember Cyprus winning.
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| 131.16 | | XSTACY::PATTISON | Where's me jumper? | Mon Jun 22 1992 11:58 | 12 |
| That last one should have said Faroes 0 Cyprus 2.
Heres how it looks till September
P W D L F A Pts
Romania 2 2 0 0 12 1 4
Belgium 2 2 0 0 4 0 4
Cyprus 2 1 0 1 2 1 2
Wales 1 0 0 1 1 5 0
Faroes 3 0 0 3 0 12 0
Czech 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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| 131.17 | Looking for some points | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Mon Jun 22 1992 16:07 | 8 |
| My God we're even below Cyprus! and if Czechslovakia splits up we have
to play two extra games.
When do we play the Faroes?
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.18 | 2-2 | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Wed Sep 02 1992 10:36 | 21 |
| Very important game today,when Belgium is playing in Prague the Czechs.A very
defensif Belgian team is going for a point.The national coach gets al the credit
for such a defensif line-up which proves what I said already before.The Belgians
have a inferiority complex.Line-up for Belgium:
Preud'homme (KV Mechelen)
Medved(AA Gent) Emmers(Anderlecht) Smidts(Antwerp)
Grun(Parma) Albert(Anderlecht)
Staelens(FC Brugge) Vander Elst(FC Brugge)
Scifo(Torino)
Degrijse(Anderlecht) Czernatynski(Antwerp)
Subs: Bodart(Standard)
Dauwen(AA Gent)
Boffin(Anderlecht)
Wilmots(Standard)
?
Patrick
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| 131.19 | 1-2 | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Thu Sep 03 1992 12:26 | 30 |
|
Nice result from the Belgian Rode Duivels/Diables Rouges team
Yesterday evening, who managed to beat Czechoslovakia 1-2.
I didn't see the whole match, but from what I saw the Belgian played
as the trainer told them to do : let the others play. The match was
not really spectacular but still a few good scoring opportunities on
both sides.
Scorers : 44' - Chovanec (og) 0-1
78' - Kadlek 1-1
82' - Czerniatynski 1-2
Table so far :
==============
P W L D F A T
Belgium 3 3 0 0 6 1 6
Romania 2 2 0 0 12 1 4
Cyprus 2 1 1 0 2 1 2
Czechoslovakia 1 0 1 0 1 2 0
Wales 1 0 1 0 1 5 0
Faroe Islands 3 0 3 0 0 12 0
Philippe
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| 131.20 | Allez les Diables Rouges! | SALES::THILL | | Thu Sep 03 1992 16:32 | 11 |
| YES!!!
Good to see the Duivels/Diables do it... An away win against the Czecks
is no small feat. I reckon thahat Check. would be the most difficult of
the opponents, but you can't count out Romania, who are always good, and
Wales who took 3 of 4 points in the Euro qualifiers.
I didn't know that Czernatinski was still around. I remember him
playing for Anderlecht in the early '80s.
Tom
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| 131.21 | We're on the road to Foxboro (:==:) | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | It wasn't supposed to end this way | Thu Sep 10 1992 23:01 | 12 |
| Come on Wales get a stunning crushing victory over one of the true
giants of european nay world football and noone posts a match report
or even the scorers.
please?
I make our goal-difference For 7 against 5 and that's after only 2
games - anyone have an updated table?
Regards,
Andrew.D.wicks
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| 131.22 | Exciting Wales ? | IRNBRU::MACKENZIE | Taxes, I have a sister who lives in Taxes | Fri Sep 11 1992 10:29 | 5 |
| 12 Goals in two games - nobody can accuse Wales of being involved in
dull matches.
dave.
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| 131.23 | Wales' scorers | JONPC1::BUTTON | Jon Button @ REO | Fri Sep 11 1992 10:45 | 8 |
| Andrew,
From memory, the scorers were Rush (3), Saunders, Bowen and Blackmore. In
my opinion, Bowen's was the best, beating three defenders on the edge of
the penalty area before shooting past the 'keeper into the corner of the
net. If only he could score a few like that for Norwich...
Jon
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| 131.24 | Standings | UNTADI::EXLEY | Graham Exley | Fri Sep 11 1992 10:50 | 15 |
| Wales (3) 6 Faroe Islands (0) 0
Rush 5, 64, 90
Saunders 17
Bowen 37
Blackmore 71
Attn: 7,000 at the Arms Park, Cardiff
P W D L F A P
Belgium 3 3 0 0 6 1 6
Romania 2 2 0 0 12 1 4
Wales 2 1 0 1 7 5 2
Cyprus 2 1 0 1 2 1 2
Czech 1 0 0 0 1 2 0
Faroe 4 0 0 4 0 18 0
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| 131.25 | According to my sources | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | If it don't stink, don't stir | Thu Sep 24 1992 12:09 | 4 |
|
Played yesterday;
Czechoslovakia - Faroe Islands 4 - 0
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| 131.26 | | SIOG::COLMAN | | Thu Oct 15 1992 10:02 | 10 |
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result:
Cyprus 0 Wales 1
Hughes
Stephen C.
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| 131.27 | Belgians in the U.S.,here we come | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Thu Oct 15 1992 10:37 | 23 |
| Result:
Belgium - Roumania 1-0
Clearly dominated by a very impressive Roumanian team the Belgian team managed
to get 2 points.Even the Roumanians didn't get any clear chance,I think they
are on this moment on of the world top teams.I can't remember a game where
Belgium was dominated on the home court like last night.Therefore I think we
got very big 2 points which puts the Belgian team closer to the U.S.
Standings
1. Belgium 4 4 0 0 7 1 8
2. Roumania 3 2 1 0 12 2 4
3. Wales 3 2 1 0 4
4. Chechoslavakia 2 1 1 0 4 2 2
5. Cyprus 4 1 3 0 2
6. Faroer 4 0 4 0 0
P
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| 131.28 | result | XSTACY::KMCGRATH | Long road, patient donkey | Mon Nov 16 1992 19:05 | 10 |
| Romania 1 Czech 1
Standings
P W L D F A Pts
1. Belgium 4 4 0 0 7 1 8
2. Roumania 4 2 1 1 13 3 5
3. Wales 3 2 1 0 4
4. Chechoslavakia 3 1 1 1 5 3 3
5. Cyprus 4 1 3 0 2
6. Faroer 4 0 4 0 0
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| 131.29 | Anyone got the right table? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Liverpool 4 Norwich 1 | Mon Nov 16 1992 20:05 | 14 |
| I think we need someone to put in a real table since the one I have
(below) has a different goal diff for Czechslovakia and different
numbers of games palyed for Cyprus and the Faeroes than the one just
posted in .27
here's mine until someone posts the right one
P W D L F A P
Belgium 4 4 0 0 7 1 8
Romania 4 2 1 1 13 3 5
Wales 3 2 0 1 8 5 4
Czech 3 1 1 1 6 3 3
Cyprus 3 1 0 2 2 2 2
Faroe 5 0 0 5 0 22 0
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| 131.30 | more on my reply | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Liverpool 4 Norwich 1 | Mon Nov 16 1992 20:11 | 12 |
| BTW I'm going from a copy of the schedule published in reply .3
so it looks like most of the recent tables posted in this note have
been wrong.
It's definitely
played 5 Faeroes
played 4 belgium, romania
played 3 cyprus, czechslovakia and the mighty WALES.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.31 | Go Belgium!!!! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Tue Nov 17 1992 07:08 | 16 |
| > here's mine until someone posts the right one
>
> P W D L F A P
> Belgium 4 4 0 0 7 1 8
> Romania 4 2 1 1 13 3 5
> Wales 3 2 0 1 8 5 4
> Czech 3 1 1 1 6 3 3
> Cyprus 3 1 0 2 2 2 2
> Faroe 5 0 0 5 0 22 0
>
This is definit the right one. Just checked it in the newspaper.
Patrick
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| 131.32 | Cymru am byth | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Liverpool 4 Norwich 1 | Tue Nov 17 1992 16:56 | 10 |
| Patrick,
thanks for checking, though I hope Wales will be 2 points closer
to you by Thursday morning!
Rush to score in a 1-0 victory
Bore da,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.33 | | WOTVAX::SHAW27::WATTERSONP | Everton Everton rah rah rah | Wed Nov 18 1992 21:00 | 5 |
| Final score
Belgium 2-0 Wales
Paul
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| 131.34 | I hate hamburgers | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Thu Nov 19 1992 07:58 | 19 |
|
Excelent result for Belgium Yesterday evening. The Dream Team has won
again with two goals in the second half from Lorenzo Staelens and
Marc Degryse. Good performance however from the whole team.
For Wales I still have to congratulate Young who was the best in his
team.
1. Belgium 5 5 0 0 9 1 10
2. Roumania 4 2 1 1 13 3 5
3. Wales 4 2 2 0 8 7 4
4. Tchecs. 3 1 1 1 6 3 3
5. Cyprus 3 1 2 0 2 2 2
6. Fero. 5 0 5 0 0 22 0
Philippe
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| 131.35 | Looking optimistic... | SALES::THILL | | Thu Nov 19 1992 16:44 | 6 |
| Belgium look to be in great shape halfway through the schedule, with wins
over everyone in the group. It may be premature, but it looks like the
only way they could NOT qualify is to fall completely apart. Hopefull
the Red Devils will play in the Boston-Foxboro group!
Tom
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| 131.36 | Belgium WC if they dont meet David Platt! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Fri Nov 20 1992 07:13 | 20 |
| > Belgium look to be in great shape halfway through the schedule, with wins
> over everyone in the group. It may be premature, but it looks like the
> only way they could NOT qualify is to fall completely apart. Hopefull
> the Red Devils will play in the Boston-Foxboro group!
>
Yes Tom,with remaining games against CSSR and Faroer Isles at home, Cyprus,
Wales and Roumanie away,I think they defenit qualified for the next WC. But
what is more important,it's the first time they are really confident and
believing in their own strength.They are saying,and I believe it too,that they
are nearly unbeatable at this time.This is defenit the winners mind that other
countries as like Germany,Italy,The Netherlands(?!?) already had.
Remember that we've also still 4 contenders in the European Cups and that the
U-21 are also on top of their group.
Looks promising,doesn't it?
See you in '94
Patrick
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| 131.37 | A little consistency appears to be creeping in.. | GYMAC::DCASSIDY | | Fri Nov 20 1992 12:35 | 8 |
|
> -< Belgium WC if they dont meet David Platt! >-
-< Belgium WC if they didn't meet David Platt! >-
------
That could well have been true it appears by their recent run....
Dezzz.
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| 131.38 | Belgium look good (so far) | SALES::THILL | | Mon Nov 23 1992 16:29 | 6 |
| Year in, year out, Belgium have been one of the better teams in Europe
for more than the last 10 years. It's nice to see them playing with
the confidence that they really belong at the top. I don't want to get too
excited yet, but so far, things look good for the Diables Rouges!
Tom
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| 131.39 | qualifiers are not a good guide | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Mon Nov 23 1992 17:38 | 9 |
|
Belgium do look good but be wary. The team that looks very good in the
qualifiers is often the one to fall flat on its face in the finals.
Hungary 86, England 88 EC, Spain 90, France 92 EC.
Belgium look certain to go through but it'll be a different story in
the U.S.
Gary.
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| 131.40 | Are we still third? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Soon: warm beer, football, rain | Wed Dec 02 1992 18:17 | 7 |
| Anyone know the result of Cyprus vs Romania played on Sunday
I only getting Sunday papers out here so it didn't list this one.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.41 | Not good news | JONPC1::Button | Jon Button @ REO | Wed Dec 02 1992 18:51 | 7 |
| Andrew,
Romania won - I think the score was 3 or 4 -0. A bad result for Wales.
Jon
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| 131.42 | Belgium still on top !! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | | Thu Dec 03 1992 07:21 | 4 |
| No, Roumania beated Cyprus with 4 to 1.At halftime the score was 2-1.
P
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| 131.43 | Updated Table | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Soon: warm beer, football, rain | Thu Dec 10 1992 21:12 | 19 |
| An updated table
P W D L F A P
Belgium 5 5 0 0 9 1 10
Romania 5 3 1 1 17 4 7
Wales 4 2 0 2 8 7 4
Czech 3 1 1 1 6 3 3
Cyprus 4 1 0 3 3 6 2
Faroe 5 0 0 5 0 22 0
Next game Feb 14 1993 Cyprus v Belgium
I'm not sure Belgium can be too over confident - Romania's goal difference
is impressive and it could yet come down to Belgium's visit to Romania
in October.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.44 | On the road of a new record | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Tue Feb 16 1993 14:58 | 23 |
|
Just to keep everyone informed, here is the latest match played :
Cyprus 0 - 3 Belgium
P W D L F A P
Belgium 6 6 0 0 12 1 12
Romania 5 3 1 1 17 4 7
Wales 4 2 0 2 8 7 4
Czech 3 1 1 1 6 3 3
Cyprus 5 1 0 4 3 9 2
Faroe 5 0 0 5 0 22 0
With this winning match Belgium entered the world top 4 countries
of consecutives winning matches in all world cup preparations.
6 winning consecutives matches has now been done by Brasil, Haiti and
Belgium. Germany has managed to win 8 consecutive matches.
Philippe.
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| 131.45 | At least it won't be down to the last game again | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | WALES 10 England 9 | Tue Feb 16 1993 17:21 | 11 |
| Phillipe,
OK i'm getting close to admitting defeat (:==:) - the last straw looks
like being Mar 31st. If we lose to you then we will be 10 points
behind with 5 games to play.
Ah well there's always 1998!
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.46 | What happened to CZech? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | WALES 10 England 9 | Thu Feb 18 1993 17:21 | 8 |
| Phillipe or anyone,
It's just occurred to me that there isn't a country called
CZechslovakia anymore so who or what are Cyprus playing on Mar 24th
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.47 | 3 instead of 2 in US? | BRSISD::ROOSEN | patrick | Fri Feb 19 1993 07:12 | 10 |
| > It's just occurred to me that there isn't a country called
> CZechslovakia anymore so who or what are Cyprus playing on Mar 24th
>
In January Czechoslovakia felt apart in two separate countries, Czechia and
Slovakia, but for the WC94 they stay together as 1 country. After this campain
they will continue as two.
Patrick
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| 131.48 | And the result was... | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Oscar the Grouch is an Optimist! | Fri Mar 26 1993 00:13 | 10 |
| Patrick (or anyone)
So how did Czechslovakia get on against Cyprus last night.
The Big Game is next Wednesday, nothing short of a miracle can help
us now.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.49 | | KIRKTN::CPATRICK | You Ain't seen nothing yet ! | Fri Mar 26 1993 01:22 | 7 |
|
Czechslovakia 1 Cyprus 1
But I'm afraid,I don't know the scorers or have a match report :-)
SQF Jambo
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| 131.50 | Going to the U.S.! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | patrick | Fri Mar 26 1993 08:14 | 27 |
|
Yes, the Czechs and the Slovaks dropped a point in Cyprus, as where the other
contenders won two points. I think the road ended for them in Limassol.
As the newspapers and the tele were saying, they were really crap and Cyprus
deserved the point.
As for next week, I really think Belgium is going to win, even we will be happy
with one point. Let's hope it will be a nice game to watch, whatever the result
will be.The probably line-up will be the same as against Cyprus.
Preud'homme
Grun
Medved Albert Vanderelst Smidts
Staelens Scifo Boffin
Degrijse
Nilis
Subs: Bodart,Czerniatinsky,Oliveira,Borkelmans,Walem
Patrick
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| 131.51 | | PLAYER::LESOIL | | Wed Mar 31 1993 10:32 | 3 |
|
Anybody has any news on the Wales team for tonight ? Who's playing,
how is the atmosphere,...?
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| 131.52 | Wales 2 Belgium 0 | FORTY2::ASH | Grahame Ash @REO | Thu Apr 01 1993 12:36 | 18 |
| What, no Welshmen in here today?
Stunning performace last night to end Belgium's 100% record in Cardiff. First
goal from Giggs - a freekick that the wall decided not to get in the way of.
Second from Rush (now the all-time top goalscorer, with 24) after a
Bodin->Saunders move.
From the highlights on BBC Belgium looked as if they found it a bit too
physical for them, and they got no help at all from the German referee who
disallowed a goal in the 2nd half, and seemed to give them virtually nothing
else.
Still, it livens the group up, and Wales' confidence must be sky-high by now.
(Only 27 000 there - surely they'd be better off watching this than the
rugby?!)
grahame
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| 131.53 | remember we have a 6-hour time difference | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Oscar the Grouch is an Optimist! | Thu Apr 01 1993 18:01 | 13 |
| GASH,
Well we're not too sure that this isn't another false dawn. remember
that the country thought we were going to win the Grand Slam
after we destroyed England at the Arms park back in January
(You knew i'd mention that didn't you?) and looked what happened after
that.
Don't suppose you could post an updated table?
Hwyl Fawr,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.54 | Updated table | BUSSTP::DSMITH | WORLD BEWARE!! GAZZA'S A PRAT | Thu Apr 01 1993 20:05 | 10 |
|
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 7 6 0 1 12 3 12
Romania 5 3 1 1 17 4 7
Wales 5 3 0 2 10 7 6
RCS (who?) 4 1 2 1 7 4 4
Cyprus 6 1 1 4 4 4 3
Faroe Isles 5 0 0 5 0 22 0
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| 131.55 | We play RCS on 28th | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Oscar the Grouch is an Optimist! | Thu Apr 01 1993 21:36 | 8 |
| thanks - RCS is the 'working title' for the Republics of Czech and
Slovakia.
I thinks cyprus should have 10 goals against not 4
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.56 | Desperately seeking some scores | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Mon Apr 26 1993 15:59 | 15 |
| OK does anyone with either a newspaper and/or a good memory know
the scores of:
Romania vs Cyprus (played on the 14th) for some reason the San
Francisco paper didn't carry this score and
I couldn't find a phone number for either embassy!
Cyprus v Faroes (played yesterday)
Wales face another crucial test against the RCS on Wednesday
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.57 | | ESSB::BLONG | Europe is Scouse Free | Mon Apr 26 1993 16:29 | 3 |
|
Cyprus 3 - 1 Faroes (played yesterday)
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| 131.58 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Nostalgia *is* what it used to be... | Mon Apr 26 1993 17:07 | 4 |
|
I think Romania Cyprus was 2-1.
Andy.
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| 131.59 | Updated table (guesswork) | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Mon Apr 26 1993 22:56 | 19 |
| OK trusting the previous two results and my ability to edit the
previous table it now looks like below.
A win against RCS is a must....
Nice to see the Faroes get a goal, hope they pick up their
first points away in Belgium in May (:==:)
group 4
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 7 6 0 1 12 3 12
Romania 6 4 1 1 19 5 9
Wales 5 3 0 2 10 7 6
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
RCS 4 1 2 1 7 4 4
Faroe Isles 6 0 0 6 1 25 0
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| 131.60 | Since noone posted this one | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Thu Apr 29 1993 16:57 | 7 |
| RCS 1 Wales 1
No details on scorers or anything
Regards,
Andrew.D.wicks
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| 131.61 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Nostalgia *is* what it used to be... | Thu Apr 29 1993 17:14 | 6 |
|
Andrew, Wales took the lead through Mark Hughes in the first half
but gave it up soon after. From the hi-lites last night they looked
fortunate to get a point, but well played Wales.
Andy.
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| 131.62 | Wales can do it | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Thu Apr 29 1993 18:44 | 9 |
|
If Wales can beat RCS and Romania in Cardiff they should qualify. I'm
assuming victories over Cyprus and the Faroes are guaranteed. This
would require Romania to win away to RCS and win at hoem to Belgium.
With their great record in the National Stadium this could well be
Wales year.
Gary.
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| 131.63 | | TRUCKS::SANT | Nostalgia *is* what it used to be... | Fri Apr 30 1993 09:44 | 11 |
|
Let's hope they manage it. I for one would like to see the likes of
Ian Rush, Dean Saunders, Hughes, Giggs, Southall, Symonds (this
boy is excellent imo..) all grace the stage of the WC in USA '94.
For some (Rush, Saunders, Hughes, Southall) it undoubtably
represents their last chance of a taste of the big competition.
Good luck to 'em. I'd love to see them qualify.
Andy.
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| 131.64 | | FORTY2::FOWLERM | | Fri Apr 30 1993 12:23 | 10 |
| re: -1
I couldn't agree more.
Assuming Giggs is still getting better, which he appears to be, the git, it
will be interesting to compare him to the world's top players. And maybe if
Wales draw some cheating scumbags like the Dutch, Wouters will put him out of
action for good, and Villa will win the League title. Hurrah! 8-)
Mike
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| 131.65 | It'll all be over by Nov 17th | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | on the Streets of San Francisco | Fri Apr 30 1993 16:41 | 23 |
| OK here's the latest table - could someone with a newspaper check it for
accuracy
group 4
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 7 6 0 1 12 3 12
Romania 6 4 1 1 19 5 9
Wales 6 3 1 2 11 8 7
RCS 5 1 3 1 8 5 5
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
Faroe Isles 6 0 0 6 1 25 0
upcoming games before the summer break...
May 22 Belgium v Faroes
Jun 2 RCS v Romania
Jun 6 Faroes v Wales (our last away game)
Jun 16 Faroes v RCS
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.66 | Belgium almost on the plane | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | Alphatraz - Coming Summer 93 | Tue May 25 1993 16:29 | 27 |
| Belgium 3 Faroes 0
Belgium are a point shy of automatic qualification but don't play
again until October. However given that Wales and RCS can only get
a maximum of 15 points Belgium could qualify between now and June 16th
without playing.
the game on June 2nd between RCS and Romania looks like having an
important bearing on Wales's chances.
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 8 7 0 1 15 3 14
Romania 6 4 1 1 19 5 9
Wales 6 3 1 2 11 8 7
RCS 5 1 3 1 8 5 5
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
Faroe Isles 7 0 0 6 1 28 0
upcoming games before the summer break...
Jun 2 RCS v Romania
Jun 6 Faroes v Wales (our last away game)
Jun 16 Faroes v RCS
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.67 | Sharks killing eachother! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | patrick | Thu Jun 03 1993 12:55 | 17 |
| RCS - Romania 5-2
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 8 7 0 1 15 3 14
Romania 7 4 1 2 21 10 9
Wales 6 3 1 2 11 8 7
RCS 6 2 3 1 13 7 7
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
Faroe Isles 7 0 0 6 1 28 0
upcoming games before the summer break...
Jun 6 Faroes v Wales
Jun 16 Faroes v RCS
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| 131.68 | Better than Romania winning | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | June 7-13 Real Football in the U.S | Thu Jun 03 1993 14:32 | 9 |
| patrick,
I would have preferred a draw. by the way i think rcs should appear
above wales since they have a better goal difference. Still not a
disaster for us if we get the points in the Faroes.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.69 | looking better for Wales | GALVIA::SPAIN | Taylor must STAY | Thu Jun 03 1993 14:32 | 7 |
|
RCS still have to go to Cardiff and Brussels. I thought it was a great
result for Wales. Hope to see you in the World Cup next year.
7 points out of 8 may do now.
Gary.
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| 131.70 | Wales - RCS in sept. very important! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | patrick | Thu Jun 03 1993 15:38 | 10 |
| >
> I would have preferred a draw. by the way i think rcs should appear
> above wales since they have a better goal difference. Still not a
>
I don't think so. The rules for making a classification is, which is different
from Brittisch football, first number of victories, then goal difference, then
goals scored. Further on I'm not sure. Therefore Wales is still above RCS be-
cause they won one more game.
Patrick
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| 131.71 | Not looking forward to Nov 17! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | June 7-13 Real Football in the U.S | Thu Jun 03 1993 16:26 | 30 |
| Patrick,
OK i'll take your word for it... let's consider the remaining fixtures
and these predictions (H for home win, A for away, D for draw)
06-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Wales A
16-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Czechoslovakia A
08-Sep-1993 Wales - Czechoslovakia D
08-Sep-1993 Faroe Islands - Romania A
13-Oct-1993 Romania - Belgium A
13-Oct-1993 Wales - Cyprus H
27-Oct-1993 Czechoslovakia - Cyprus H
17-Nov-1993 Wales - Romania D
17-Nov-1993 Belgium - Czechoslovakia D
the group finishes...
BELGIUM 17
WALES 13
RCS 13
ROMANIA 12
and Wales go through on the Wins rule - my this is way too close
for comfort - i'll be drinking heavily on Nov 17th!
Oh for a couple of victories over RCS!
Regards,
Andrew.D.wicks
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| 131.72 | May the best win!! | BRSISD::ROOSEN | patrick | Fri Jun 04 1993 09:02 | 32 |
| Andy,
it's always fun to have some predictions but still we've to stay real. I don't
think Belgium will win in Romania, but they will beat the RCS. Therefore I think
the most important game is Wales-RCS. The team who drops points will be out.
06-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Wales A
16-Jun-1993 Faroe Islands - Czechoslovakia A
08-Sep-1993 Wales - Czechoslovakia H
08-Sep-1993 Faroe Islands - Romania A
13-Oct-1993 Romania - Belgium H
13-Oct-1993 Wales - Cyprus H
27-Oct-1993 Czechoslovakia - Cyprus H
17-Nov-1993 Wales - Romania ?
17-Nov-1993 Belgium - Czechoslovakia H
the group finishes...
BELGIUM 16
WALES 14 |--> Second place decided by the game Wales-Romania
ROMANIA 14 |
RCS 11
I hope that Romania beats Wales, because even Belgium is better than Britisch
teams we nearly never can beat them (WC90-England,EC92-Wales,WC94-Wales).So I
don't want they will be any chance that Belgium will draw a Britisch team over
there in the States. At the other end, I like Britisch football, as I'm playing
myself in a Britisch team here in Belgium.
P
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| 131.73 | Win in the Faroe Islands. | ESSB::PLYNCH | | Wed Jun 09 1993 11:48 | 10 |
|
Faroe Islands 0 - 3 Wales.
Do not know who scored but I believe Wales had a scare flying
into the Faroe Islands with fog.
However this result puts them nearer the goal of qualifying and
good luck to them.
Pat
|
| 131.74 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | ANGER IS A GIFT | Wed Jun 09 1993 11:55 | 6 |
| Wales scorers were Dean Saunders, Eric Young and Ian Rush scored in the
second half.
Gary
|
| 131.75 | latest... | YR2000::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Mon Jun 14 1993 05:16 | 12 |
| latest table - here's hoping the faroes get their first point against
RCS on wed
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 8 7 0 1 15 3 14
Romania 7 4 1 2 21 10 9
Wales 7 4 1 2 14 8 9
RCS 6 2 3 1 13 7 7
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
Faroe Isles 8 0 0 8 1 31 0
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| 131.76 | C'Mon WALES! | DBOT07::RUSSELL | WEXFORD,ALL-IRELAND CHAMPIONS '93 | Mon Jun 14 1993 10:56 | 14 |
| Andrew,
I just want to let you know that all of us here in Ireland are
cheering for Wales. They, over the last 10 years, have been so unlucky.
It reminds me of us during the Seventies and mid - Eighties....a nearly
team.
Well, Wales are almost there, dont blow it at this stage. WIth an
attack force of Giggs, Rush and Hughes Wales will be a great addition
to USA '94.
g'luck,
*Tiger*
|
| 131.77 | Its up to Wales. | ESSB::PLYNCH | | Thu Jun 17 1993 11:03 | 12 |
| Result from last night:
Faroe Is. 0 - 3 RSC
P W D L F A Pts
Belgium 8 7 0 1 15 3 14
Romania 7 4 1 2 21 10 9
RSC 7 3 3 1 16 7 9
Wales 7 4 1 2 14 8 9
Cyprus 8 2 1 5 8 13 5
Faroe Is. 9 0 0 9 1 34 0
|
| 131.78 | i'll be cheering for Belgium too | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Jun 17 1993 17:12 | 10 |
| re .-1,
and a couple of victories for Belgium - who finish up against Romania
and RCS would go down nicely thank you...
oh well here's to the first nail-biting game on Sept 8th
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.79 | A seconder from Irl. | ESSB::PHAYDEN | It's not how long it takes but how well you do it... | Tue Sep 07 1993 10:32 | 11 |
|
Good luck Wales ! 't would be great to see you in the U.S.A .
You deserve to be there. Hopefully the talent you've got will
get to be displayed on a world stage.
If you get there, ya never know, but with that strike force you
could win the bloody thing.
Ireland v Wales in the final. How does that grab you ?
An Impartial Celt.
|
| 131.80 | A must win game | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Tue Sep 07 1993 16:52 | 5 |
| Don't suppose anyone has the team for tomorrow.
Yours nervous that we might blow it again.
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.81 | not yet | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Wed Sep 08 1993 13:18 | 4 |
| The team isn't in the paper this morning, but the speculation is that Giggs
will start, and Speed is dropped.
g
|
| 131.82 | Speed is good ONLY when running!!!! | ESOA11::PILATON | Nick Pilato DECUS IM&T Supervisor | Wed Sep 08 1993 17:25 | 1 |
| They should drop all kinds of SPEED! (it's no good for you, you know!)
|
| 131.83 | According to my mum! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Sep 08 1993 21:04 | 1 |
| Wales 2 RCS 1 - sometimne in second half
|
| 131.84 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Sep 08 1993 21:16 | 6 |
|
Final Score
Wales 2 RCS 2
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| 131.85 | oh s**t | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Sep 08 1993 21:18 | 1 |
|
|
| 131.86 | Is this the end of WC '94 | ZPOVC::KUMAR | | Thu Sep 09 1993 01:17 | 12 |
| What the bl**** h*** is going on ??????
I thought Wales were going to win this one, maybe not easily. I mean
having beaten Belgium AT HOME, surely this was a far easier match.
Someone please tell me that they could still qualify !!!! PLEASE
BTW, I didn't catch the scorers for Wales.
Anyone got the match details ?
Regards,
Kumar
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| 131.87 | Nov 17th will be hell! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Sep 09 1993 02:00 | 35 |
| kumar,
too many permutations assuming Romania beat faeroes today the table is
play points
belgium 8 14
romania 8 11
czech 8 10 goals +9
wales 8 10 goals +6
then in october
belgium beat romania away (oh please)
wales beat cyprus at home
rcs beat cyprus at home
we reach nov 17th looking like
play points
belgium 9 16
rcs 9 12
wales 9 12
romania 9 11
belgium beat rcs, wales draw against romania - we're through
F**c - at least when we're drawn in the same group as Scotland you know
something bad is going to happen 7 minutes from time and we're going
to fail this time you can't even rely on that.
I for one will be drinking heavily on November 17th - come to think of
it since it's 9pm I think i'll stop for one on the way home to calm
my nerves.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.88 | | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | Living with Flamingos on the DELTA | Thu Sep 09 1993 11:08 | 29 |
| Giggs & Rush
RCS Went ahead through Kukar after an error by Mark Hughes
Giggs goal was a contender for goal of the month. Phillips sent a cross in from
the right, Giggs steams in through the defence, sticks out his foot and it's 1-1.
Rush's goal was also superb. Another cross from the right, which Giggs, who was
surrounded by defenders, cooly nods into the path of Rush, who'd escaped his
marker, and slips the ball under the keeper.
Hughes had a great chance to put Wales 3-1 ahead after the break, but his header
was just to high from an inch perfect cross from Bowen.
The RCS equalizer came from a dubious freekick decision to say the least. 25-30
yards out and Dubecyk (SP?) of Real Madrid, emulates Giggs with a superb strike.
Both teams had chances late on to steal the game. Kukar should have had a
hatrick, but the clearest chances came in the dying seconds when Saunders
steamed through 2 defenders, and shot from 8 yards, but the keeper managed to
get a hand to it. 30 seconds later it was Young clearing off the line at the
other end.
From the highlights on BBC, Wales played some superb stuff in the 1st half, but
were lucky not lose, with the number of chances they gave the RCS in the 2nd.
Very entertaining match
Al
|
| 131.89 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Until DEC doth us part! | Thu Sep 09 1993 12:01 | 7 |
|
Don't flame me, but if Wales had *one* decent defender, then they'd
truly be a world class side. I was very impressed with Wales (going
forward) and I really believe they'd grace the finals. Let's hope they
win their two remaining games (and they should) and qualify.
Tim
|
| 131.90 | | PAVONE::TURNER | | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:17 | 9 |
|
Not that their defence is *bad*; they've got one of the best keepers in
the world.
But even people like Bowen and Philips seem to be better going forward.
I certainly think that Giggs, Hughes, Saunders, Speed and Rush could
grace a World Cup stage. Still, all is not lost.
Dom
|
| 131.91 | I now I'm English, but... | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Thu Sep 09 1993 13:23 | 12 |
|
> RCS Went ahead through Kukar after an error by Mark Hughes
How?????
I can understand comments like...
RCS went ahead after an error by 'Walker'!
Ian
|
| 131.92 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Until DEC doth us part! | Thu Sep 09 1993 14:13 | 8 |
|
>How?????
He went in for a 'stabbed' sliding tackle but could only divert the
ball into the path of an RCS player who was standing unmarked in a very
dangerous position.
Tim
|
| 131.93 | | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Thu Sep 09 1993 14:39 | 1 |
| Hughes was playing in a midfield position last night.
|
| 131.94 | You cannot be serious | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Thu Sep 09 1993 15:19 | 8 |
|
> Hughes was playing in a midfield position last night.
His manager must be an idiot then! Why play an attacker, if you're not
going to play him as an attacker? Since when did attackers know how to
defend, and defenders know how to attack?
|
| 131.95 | Class is class... | BARQUE::MACDONALD_J | | Thu Sep 09 1993 15:31 | 8 |
| Class players can play anywhere and Hughes is class. If you haven't got
any decent midfield players but an abundance of class forwards then it
makes sense to convert one of them into midfield.
BTW did you know that Bobby Charlton played as a left winger for the
first (mumble) years of his Man Utd and England career.
Jamie
|
| 131.96 | I'm not trying to be akward, but... | MOEUR1::SMITH | | Thu Sep 09 1993 16:12 | 20 |
|
I think that yesterday's error disproves your argument! I do agree
that defenders can score goals, and I do agree that attackers can block
shots, but, if it were as simple as you imply then the clubs with the
money would by all the 'best' players, not by position.
When you play in a given position, you learn where to go
'instinctively'. So, Lineker (or Hughes even) will automatically end
up on the end of crosses that other players wouldn't. Likewise
Pallister will be in a position to clear or tackle without thinking
about it, when someone else might be too far away.
I base my comments on my experience as team manager, captain and
experienced central defender. There are some time when YOU JUST WATCH
AND NOT TACKLE.
Incidentally, I didn't see the incident in question...
Regards,
Ian
|
| 131.97 | | PLUNDR::LOWEG | WANTED!! A modern day Robin Hood. | Thu Sep 09 1993 16:13 | 3 |
|
What about Paul Warhurst, Steve Howie, Ian Marshall etc etc.
|
| 131.98 | and back to the group topic | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Sep 09 1993 16:42 | 1 |
| could someone post the Romania result please
|
| 131.99 | you got it | SIOG::HOWARD | There's juice loose aboot this hoose | Thu Sep 09 1993 17:05 | 4 |
| Faroes 0 - 4 Romania
it'll be tough for the Dragons from now on
Ray....
|
| 131.100 | The dragon still lives | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Thu Sep 09 1993 17:54 | 11 |
|
If Wales win their last 2 games they will finish ahead of Romania.
RCS can finish ahead of Wales but they must win away to Belgium.
I don't think they'll do that so Wales still have a good chance.
A victory last night would have eliminated RCS and left Romania needing
a win v Belgium and a draw in Cardiff. Romania now require 2 draws
or possibly 3 points depending on how RCS do in Brussels. This will go
to the wire.
Gary.
|
| 131.101 | Another long night of worrying | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Oct 13 1993 16:54 | 7 |
| Any news yet on either the Belgium or Wales games. If I have my
international timezones right Belgiun is one hour ahead of Wales at the
moment.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.102 | | CLARID::STUART | | Wed Oct 13 1993 17:22 | 7 |
| I think Belgium and Wales are at the same time for another week or so until
Wales change their clocks.
I hope Wales do well. I think they really deserve a place in the WC finals
after so many close things over the years.
G.
|
| 131.103 | At least we won | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Oct 13 1993 22:04 | 3 |
| Wales 2 Cyprus 0 Rush, Saunders
No news from Belgium
|
| 131.104 | | KIRKTN::GPIKE | | Wed Oct 13 1993 22:46 | 9 |
|
Belgium ....1 Romania......2
Wales need to beat Romania in there last game to qualify.
|
| 131.105 | Not the result I was looking for | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Oct 13 1993 22:56 | 13 |
| Actually I think there's a permutation where even a win won't be enough
RCS beat Cyprus, wales beat Romania, Czech beats Belgium we end up with
3 teams on 14 points.
we currently have the worst goal differences of the 4 teams still involved
and would miss out.
a Belgium victory would have been so much better for us.
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.106 | Group 4 table - the important group! | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Oct 14 1993 03:32 | 28 |
| OK 5 hours later my premonition of us blowing it 7 mins from the end of the
last game hasn't passed. I heard that Sparkey got booked again and will
miss the game against romania.
i will be very nervous on the night of 17th. Even if we beat Romania
we still have to rely on Belgium not losing to RCS.
table below
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
Group 4
GP W D L GF GA Pts
Belgium 9 7 0 2 16 5 14
Romania 9 6 1 2 27 11 13
Wales 9 5 2 2 18 10 12
Czechoslovakia 8 3 4 1 18 9 10
Cyprus 9 2 1 6 8 15 5
Faroe Islands 10 0 0 10 1 38 0
Group 4
13.10.93: Romania-Belgium 2-1
13.10.93: Wales-Cyprus 2-0
27.10.93: Czechoslovakia-Cyprus
17.11.93: Wales-Romania
17.11.93: Belgium-Czechoslovakia
|
| 131.107 | | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | | Thu Oct 14 1993 13:04 | 21 |
| re .106:
> Even if we beat Romania we still have to rely on Belgium not
> losing to RCS.
Not quite. The only way that Wales can win and fail to qualify is
if Wales beats Romania by exactly 1 goal, and if RCS beats The Red
Devils of Belgium (God forbid) by exactly one goal. Otherwise,
RCS would be first on goal differential, and the goal differential
between Wales and Belgium would either be tied or favor Wales. If
the goal differential between Wales and Belgium is tied, then
Wales goes for having scored more goals. (Unless, of course,
Wales wins 1-0 and Belgium falls by 4-5, but that's as ridiculous
as Israel beating France.)
_____________ _______ ________ _________ ______ _________ ________
/ __ __ // ___ \ /_______// ___ // ___ // ___ //_______/
/ / / / / // /__/ | / / / / / // /__/ // /__/ / _/ _/
�� / / / / / // __ _/ / / / / / // _____// ___ / _/ _/
/ / / / / // / \ \ / / / /__/ // / / / / / / /___
/__/ /__/ /__//__/ \__\ /__/ /________//__/ /__/ /__/ /_______/
|
| 131.108 | what 1-0 and 7-6??? (:==:) | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Oct 14 1993 15:58 | 15 |
| Thanks... I think
I sat up all last night - until I posted the latest tables at about 3am
thoroughly confused as to what the permutations were in any group.
After a couple of bottles of beer the permutations cleared but I could
no longer add two numbers or type!
I don't know how familiar you are with Wales's attempts to miss out
on WC or EC cups in the last 10 mins of the last game so that last
permutation of yours is the one i'd put my money on.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.109 | | BIS1::LESOIL | | Thu Oct 14 1993 17:15 | 5 |
|
The Czecks have still two games to play, and a lot can happen.
Their match against Cyprus can be very surprising, may be.
Ph./
|
| 131.110 | Get out ya slide rool | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Thu Oct 28 1993 12:18 | 21 |
| Well RCS beat Cyprus 3 - 0 last night to push them into 3rd place.
If RCS win their last game in Belgium then you can use the formula:-
Wales margin of victory + RCS margin of victory >= 4
for a Wales qualification.
Any other Belgium v RCS result will see Wales qualify with any old win.
Easier said than done!!!
Let's hope it works out for Wales.
P W D L F A P
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Belgium 9 7 0 2 16 5 14
Romania 9 6 1 2 27 11 13
RCS 9 4 4 1 21 9 12
Wales 9 5 2 2 18 10 12
Cheers.....Ned
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| 131.111 | Come on Wales | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Thu Oct 28 1993 12:38 | 9 |
|
Re -1, If Wales win 1-0 then they qualify unless the RCS win by 1 goal.
If Wales win by 2 goals they're through. Remember Belgium lose out if
RCS win 1-0 and Wales win 2-0.
Knowing Wales luck they'll win 1-0 and the RCS will beat Belgium 1-0.
Gary.
|
| 131.112 | how's this for a prediction? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Thu Oct 28 1993 16:34 | 7 |
| Whatever happens I confidently predict that the deciding moment will
occur 7 minutes from time and someone of Scottish descent will be
involved.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.113 | 48 hours from history??? | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Mon Nov 15 1993 16:33 | 8 |
| Well let's have a break from that group where the team has no
chance of qualiying and ask about this group where a win ought to be
enough. Does anyone know the team for Wednesday night's game against
Romania?.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
|
| 131.114 | Speed or Goss ?? | IOSG::BUTTON | Bayern who? | Mon Nov 15 1993 17:23 | 10 |
|
Hi Andrew,
The speculation in the Independent says that Gary Speed is favourite to
take Mark Hughes' place, but Jeremy Goss is also in contention. Of
course, if it was down to me, you know who I'd choose.. :-)
Good luck for Wednesday.
Jon
|
| 131.115 | geez | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | On 7830-2924 | Tue Nov 16 1993 10:32 | 7 |
|
Why the hell haven't the beeb or SKY used their initiative and
televised this vital game instead of the nothing game they are showing.
Tony
|
| 131.116 | | ESSB::PHAYDEN | | Tue Nov 16 1993 10:58 | 8 |
|
Re:Last
Couldn't agree more. Makes you sick, doesn't it ?
C'mon Wales, hope you do the biz, 3-0 just to be safe.
Peter(An Impartial Celt).
|
| 131.117 | | YELBUS::DSMITH | Gazza's my hero...NOT!!!!! | Tue Nov 16 1993 11:10 | 7 |
|
Why don't BBC Wales show the game (or are they)? BBC Scotland in all
their wisdom are showing the Malta v Scotland game live, a nothing game
that at least saves us the misery of watching England's finest failing.
Danny.
|
| 131.118 | Best of luck to Wales.... | KBOMFG::TANNER | Midnight is where the day begins.. | Tue Nov 16 1993 11:12 | 8 |
|
Andrew I hope your boys make it, and ours as well... we have the advantage in
that we know what we have to do to qualify... I just hope we go ahead and do it..
Tomorrows a holiday here in Germany, I just hope tomorrow nights results make
thursday a holiday as well!!!!!! If I were the Wales manager I would play Goss
after what he did to Bayern....
-dave-
|
| 131.119 | | FORTY2::ASH | Mail Interchange Group, Reading | Tue Nov 16 1993 12:44 | 4 |
| I think the game is live on BBC Wales. The rest of us have to wait until
midnightish.
g
|
| 131.120 | Is it on Satellite????? | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Tue Nov 16 1993 15:08 | 12 |
|
Anyone know if its being shown on satellite somewhere?? Come on, who
get Satellite & TV Weekly??
A couple of guys'll be coming round to my place tomorrow (Mr Bolger
& Mr Wright too??) and we want to watch some decent football. With
so many critical games on there must be a few on satellite. How about
someone posting what's on where??
Thanks
JBG
|
| 131.121 | | SUBURB::ABSOLOMT | On 7830-2924 | Tue Nov 16 1993 15:59 | 6 |
|
England is on SKY.
Tony
|
| 131.122 | | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:26 | 5 |
|
Thanks Tony..........but I said we wanted to watch some decent
football!! 8-)
JBG
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| 131.123 | Good Luck to Wales (and Erin) | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:37 | 8 |
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re - last few
It's starting to sound like the Gaelic Mutual Admiration Society in
here >8-). Well at least you can console one another if one or both of
you go out tomorrow.
Cheers.....Ned (from the Gaelic part of England)
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| 131.124 | Important question | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:40 | 2 |
| anyone know what nationality the ref is for tomorrow's game?
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| 131.125 | Probably Scots | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Tue Nov 16 1993 16:43 | 1 |
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| 131.126 | The Swiss nightmare will hit Cardiff! | PIECES::63585::SWIFFEN | | Tue Nov 16 1993 17:25 | 9 |
| The ref for the Wales match is the same guy that refereed
the Galatassaray v Man Utd game, he has promised!! that he
won't take it out on Giggs. I also read that if England are
not doing to well and Holland are in front then the BBC will
switch for live 2nd half coverage from Cardiff. This was in
The Daily Telegraph yesterday.
Chris. (The man that is going to be stuck on a train whilst
all this is happening)
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| 131.127 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | MAKE MY DAY, RING ME 7830 2450 | Wed Nov 17 1993 09:32 | 7 |
| Good Luck Wales and good luck to Romania.
Hugs,
Gary (The Impartial Soapboxer)
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| 131.128 | Giggsy to Score the Winner | ESSB::BLONG | UNITED Premier League CHAMPIONS 1993 | Wed Nov 17 1993 10:09 | 4 |
| All the best to Wales tonight, Lets hope the Welsh and the Irish are singing
in the USA next summer.
�@
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| 131.129 | Lots of luck to the Rumanians | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Wed Nov 17 1993 11:01 | 10 |
| Come on Rumania !!!!!
If England don't get there, I don't see why anyone else should ;-).
Anyway, if Wales qualify there will be an enormous amount of England
bashing by the Welsh BBC, so I would like them to chew on a few of
their own racist words.
Rich Harris, who hates Giggs and Hughes, but thinks that Gary Speed is
an OK player.
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| 131.130 | Welsh Team Please | AYOV25::SSMALLWOOD | Steve Smallwood @ DBO, Good Grief | Wed Nov 17 1993 11:46 | 15 |
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Does anyone know the full Welsh team for tonight.
Re. -1
<Anyway, if Wales qualify there will be an enormous amount of England>
<bashing by the Welsh BBC, so I wi=ould like them to chew on a few of>
<their own racist word>
Rich,
Can I have some of what your drinking.
Steve.
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| 131.131 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Wed Nov 17 1993 11:59 | 9 |
| Steve,
I ain't drinkin anything. I just happened to live in Pontypridd
for two years, and saw what the Welsh BBC were doing. I believe they
are being taken to court for one of their many blatantly anti English
trailers.
Rich.
I'd sing the Rumanian national anthem, but I don't know the words.
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| 131.132 | Eh? | AYOV25::SSMALLWOOD | Steve Smallwood @ DBO, Good Grief | Wed Nov 17 1993 12:33 | 21 |
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Rich,
What about the BRITISH broadcasting company's coverage of the
athletics world championship?
110m Hurdles final headlines.
"Jarret sets new English Record"
The BBC has always shown scant regard for any sporting achievments by
Wales, Scotland or N. Irlend.
When one of them does do well and they do get some T.V coverage the fact
they that they are a British team seems to be very overstated.
P.S What were you doing in ponty anyway if you dislike it so much.
When in Rome etc. etc.
Steve.
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| 131.133 | | PLUNDR::MORAN | Better Dead than Smeg! | Wed Nov 17 1993 12:45 | 12 |
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re .132, BBC spoke to Colin Jackson first, then Jarrett. Mentioning the
fact that he was now an "English record holder" was an attempt at
congratulations from the BBC reporter (ie cheering him up about not
winning the race). Jackson was given (and rightly so) the greater air time.
I'm sick of people looking for evidence of English bias in the British
media. National media covers for the majority, to attain the highest
audience figures possible. English people are in the majority on these
Isles.
Tim
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| 131.134 | Back to the Team. | AYOV25::SSMALLWOOD | Steve Smallwood @ DBO, Good Grief | Wed Nov 17 1993 12:54 | 14 |
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Re. .-1 and .129,
So Are the english the majority of viewers of BBC WAles??
Anyway, Can we get back to football. Does anyone know the Welsh
team.
Steve.
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| 131.135 | | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Wed Nov 17 1993 12:55 | 14 |
| Did you have to suffer the 13 seconds to glory trailer in England
between every program on BBC1 when the olympics were on ? I don't
think so. This sort of thing happens every time there is a sporting
occasion concerning England and Wales. Instead of concentrating on the
sport they make it a nationalistic matter. I absolutely cracked up when
Jackson flamingoed up the hurdles in the Olympics. ( a flamingo up is
like a male chicken up but much bigger;-) ). Beware of your sanity when
there is a rugby match, the trailers get too personal. I just like to
see all the sad little Welsh faces, getting angry at the BBC for
implying that they were already in America, and this match was just a
formality. Come on you Rumania. Put five in the net before half time
like you did before.
Rich.
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| 131.136 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | MAKE MY DAY, RING ME 7830 2450 | Wed Nov 17 1993 13:04 | 9 |
| Re 135
I have to agree with Rich. I hope Romania win!
Hugs,
Gary (The Impartial Soapboxer)
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| 131.137 | Carry on Gary, we're loving every minute of it | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Wed Nov 17 1993 14:18 | 16 |
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Re .135, .136
Well hello there Gary & Richard
Isn't it going to be so exciting tonight. I bet you'll be watching
England, won't you. Such a pity they're already out. I suppose we
really ought to call the whole thing off now. I mean, its a bit of a
cheek of everyone going off to play your game without you isn't it?
We are well aware that you don't want Wales or Ireland to get there.
It would be just so embarrassing for you. Still, there's always next time.
JBG
Come on Wales, Ireland, England.......
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| 131.138 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | MAKE MY DAY, RING ME 7830 2450 | Wed Nov 17 1993 14:25 | 10 |
| Re 137
Ireland will get there. They'll win 1-0 maybe 2-0.
I think Wales will fail. They'll draw 2-2.
Hugs,
GAry
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| 131.139 | | ESSB::PHAYDEN | | Wed Nov 17 1993 17:15 | 4 |
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Wales to win 3-1
Peter(An Impartial Celt)
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| 131.140 | | CLADA::DODONNELL | Nothing personal.It's just business. | Wed Nov 17 1993 17:22 | 4 |
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Good luck to Wales tonight.
Denis.
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| 131.141 | Go For it | FORTY2::ROBERTSON | | Wed Nov 17 1993 17:50 | 5 |
| re -.1
Wot he said
Al
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| 131.142 | scoreless in both | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Nov 17 1993 19:40 | 10 |
| half-way through the first half
Wales 0 Romania 0
Belgium 0 RCS 0
my nerves are beginning to go....
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 131.143 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Nov 17 1993 20:35 | 7 |
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Wales 1 Romania 1
Saunders equalised & Bowden has just missed a penalty....
Del.
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| 131.144 | Torture that's what it is | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Nov 17 1993 20:37 | 3 |
| *&%^^&&&*
Why do they do this to me?
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| 131.145 | time is running out | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Nov 17 1993 20:49 | 5 |
| Still 1-1 13 mins to go - it was Bodin who missed the penalty
and JeremY Goss has come on a sub. this is a typical Wales performance
unfortunately.
Belgium are still 0-0 but they're down to 10 men due to a sening-off
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| 131.146 | | YUPPY::BUSH | Alive and Kicking | Wed Nov 17 1993 20:52 | 4 |
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Wales 1 Romania 2
Tony B.
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| 131.147 | The End | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Nov 17 1993 21:06 | 2 |
| The dream is over....
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| 131.148 | | BUSSTP::DREES | | Wed Nov 17 1993 21:13 | 11 |
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Wales have just missed out again....
Although Romania deserved to go in 1up at half-time, Wales (according
to radio 5) dominated the 2nd half. Saunders equalised early in the
2nd half then Bodin missed a penalty. If the penalty had been converted
I reckon Wales would have got the third that would have taken them to
the U.S. As it was Romania, against the run of play, broke away and
grabbed a 2nd.
Del.
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| 131.149 | | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ | | Wed Nov 17 1993 22:22 | 1 |
| anyone have a final on Belgium and RCS?
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| 131.150 | 0-0 | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | U.S.A 2 England 0 - I was there! | Wed Nov 17 1993 22:25 | 1 |
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| 131.151 | Tough on Wales | SIOG::A_KELLY | | Thu Nov 18 1993 09:07 | 13 |
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Maybe it's not significant under the circumstances but Romania scored
the winner with 7 minutes to go (don't know about the Scots descent).
Up until that point, especially after Jeremy Goss and Malcolm Allen
came on as subs, Wales were well on top, but that killed the game off.
The other terrible thing was that a fan was killed by a firework (a rocket
I think) that was set off when the final whistle went.
Well my sincerest commiserations to all you Welsh folk out there.
Cheers....Ned
ps - it could be worse, you could be English.
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| 131.152 | Am I psychic or something :-) | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Thu Nov 18 1993 10:58 | 20 |
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\\\|||||/// What a lovely score from
\ / the Arms Park.
(--O-O--) I do feel sorry for Terry
| > | Yorath. He has done a good
| \___/ | job, with the limited players
\ / available to him.
______
_____/__<>__\_____ Sad to hear about the fan
/ /\ \ who was killed by some
/ / \ \ stupidity. It makes me
/ | | | | \ feel better knowing that
the Welsh wont gloat when
I go back to Pontypridd.
Rich.
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| 131.153 | | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Thu Nov 18 1993 13:28 | 13 |
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Re .152
Nice note Rich,
what would we do without a few entrys from the odd brainless
English football fan. Thankfully most of the English are more
interesting in providing reasoned discussion, and just at the moment
some mutual condolances. Now we find one who is happy to see Wales go
out, and even feels better that one of our fans was killed 'cos he
thinks it'll stop us gloating! See what I mean now Ned??
JBG
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| 131.154 | Ignore, ignore, ignore. | PAVONE::TURNER | | Thu Nov 18 1993 13:44 | 20 |
| re: .153
Don't take it to heart - irresponsible noting is (unfortunately) a
feature of this conference. 99% of the notes by non-Englishmen in 130
are of this nature - even when their own teams win!.
Very few Englishmen would subscribe to the views expressed in .152,
whatever the author's experiences in Pontypridd. In his defence, I
don't think he was revelling in the death of the Welsh fan. Most
football lovers (both in Britain and elsewhere) wanted Wales to
qualify, for at least two reasons:
1 - They haven't been seen in a world arena for a long time now.
2 - There's a lot of curiosity (in Italy anyway) about Giggs, and to
a lesser extent, Hughes, Saunders, Speed and - recently - Goss.
Just get back on your horses and qualify for EC96 - your rise to the
top might be as swift as Denmark's demise!
Dom
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| 131.155 | | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Thu Nov 18 1993 13:46 | 6 |
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Re: .152
For "Psychic" in the title, substitute "Pitiful" and I think you'ld get
a lot more agreement.
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| 131.156 | What are you on man ? | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Thu Nov 18 1993 15:18 | 19 |
| in answer to <<< Note 131.153 by BERN02::GOODEJ >>>
1/ I am not brainless. I just happen to hate the attitude of the Welsh
nation, and am rather glad that they will have been knocked down a peg
or two.
2/ As for "Now we find one who is happy to see Wales go
out, and even feels better that one of our fans was killed 'cos he
thinks it'll stop us gloating!" then I suggest you take your head
out of whatever dark hole it is in and read my note again. It said
Sad to hear about the fan
who was killed by some
stupidity.
Does that sound like someone who feels better that one of your fans was
killed ? I DON'T THINK SO.
Rich.
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| 131.157 | Somebody Welsh must have done something really bad to you ! | BERN01::BOLGER | Jerry Bolger. | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:16 | 5 |
| Sorry Jon, but I have to side with Rich on this one. I'm sure that he's
not brainless. In fact, his brain is so big, that he's got a very big
chip on his shoulder to house the overflow. (-;
Jerry.
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| 131.158 | Dear oh dear, we must have given you a rough time in Ponty | BERN02::GOODEJ | | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:21 | 47 |
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Re .156
OK Rich, so I gather you didn't mean to imply that the death of the
Welsh guy would mean we Welshies wouldn't gloat too much. Pity you
structured your paragraphs to mislead then. If you read your reply
carefully you will see two paragraphs. The first deals with the
Wales result and offers condolances to Mr Yorath. The second starts
with the death of the fan and immediately goes on to point out that
"It makes me feel better knowing that the Welsh won't gloat.....".
As far as your hating "the attitude of the Welsh nation" I'd like to
know which one you mean. You imply that there is some issue upon which
we are all of like mind. Maybe you mean that we like to beat England in
anything. I suppose "the English nation" don't have the same feelings
of friendly rivalry, and if they do, you hate them to??
I am very interested to hear what this "attitude" of ours is that
you hate. I would also be interested to hear of instances of this
attitude in this conference.
As for knocking us down a peg or two,.... our dream of going to USA '94
is shattered. But thats what it was, only a dream. Currently we have a
handful of world class players. They play their hearts out for their
country and we only just missed out again. Its nothing to cry about.
Since the last world cup we're still one of the few nations to beat
West Germany. Sometimes fate lends a hand. Deep down we know we'll
never be a great football nation, far less the "greatest footballing
nation".
No boyo, its England who've been knocked down a peg. Well, not
England itself, but those of you English football fans who have this
idea that England have a divine right to be World Champions. You heard
it on Sky last night. The disbelief of the commentators that San Marino
should dare to score. There was even the comment "that volley [by
Ferdinand] was worthy of better opposition" as if San Marino
should be eternally grateful that England deign to lower themselves and
give the little nation a lesson on how to play real football.
It sounds to me Rich as if you had a tough time living in Pontypridd.
I have a great many English friends living in Wales (I lived for 7 years
near Chepstow on the border). All of them would say that they have
been made to feel at home; that we Welshies are a particularly
friendly lot (is this a Celtic trait?). So, you pig headed Anglo-Saxon,
you must have done something to upset the locals if they weren't
friendly......now I wonder what you did.......or said maybe???
JBG
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| 131.159 | Not where you meant it to be ? | NEWOA::FIDO_T | Conation is the key | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:25 | 11 |
| Rich,
I think that what is upsetting people here is that you put the bit
about it stopping the Welsh not gloating immediately after
"Sad to hear about the fan who was killed by some stupidity."
I think that it was just unfortunate that you put it there and not
where I think you meant it to go ( i.e. earlier in your note ).
Terry
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| 131.160 | Close. I worked in a Welsh chip shop, and lost! | CHEFS::HARRISR | Goosenargh! | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:26 | 18 |
| Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
The title of your reply is very true.
-< Somebody Welsh must have done something really bad to you ! >-
How would you like to be abused for walking down a street, for
wearing an England shirt by the local shopkeepers. How about going into
pubs, and as soon as they realise that you are English, everyone starts
talking Welsh ? My girlfriend went to school in mid Wales. She wasn't
allowed to go on trips and things because she was English. I could go
on, but this is a football topic. Bring back the home internationals
and scrap 4 premier league clubs. Man U, Liverpool, Wimbledon and
Oldham would be a good choice.
Rich.
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| 131.161 | | KERNEL::WITHALLG | Wait Till They Getta Loada Me | Thu Nov 18 1993 16:57 | 9 |
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Rich,
the English get abused almost everywhere we go. It has been
bought on ourselves by our mindless few who abused everyone everywhere
they went. Shit sticks Rich. Right or wrong it sticks.
Gary
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| 131.162 | | PAVONE::TURNER | | Thu Nov 18 1993 17:16 | 17 |
| > the English get abused almost everywhere we go. It has been
>bought on ourselves by our mindless few who abused everyone everywhere
>they went. Shit sticks Rich. Right or wrong it sticks.
Sad, but probably true (at least in my experience). It might make you
bitter sometimes, especially whan you go out of your way to be a
"decent sort of chap" and have it thrown in your face but there's
precious little you can do, short of rewriting the history books. Just
stomach it. Our colonial ancestors and our barbaric football hooligans
have a lot to answer for.
Of course, this probably goes some way to explaining why many
Englishmen in this conference prefer to stay clear of 129 and stick to
writing in the notes assigned to their club sides.
Dom
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| 131.163 | Wales bow out | GALVIA::SPAIN | signed long gary(); | Thu Nov 18 1993 18:06 | 10 |
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Very disappointing result from Cardiff. It was made worse by RTE radio
and the Windsor Park scoreboard incorrectly giving the score as 2-1 to
Wales. Any Welshman in Ireland must have been sick. There's nothing
worse than having a score turned around.
Judging from the BBC highlights Romania deserved it however if Paul
Bodin had converted the penalty Wales would surely have qualified.
Gary.
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| 131.164 | | SUBURB::WAITEG | BOING BOING | Fri Nov 19 1993 11:43 | 9 |
| RE 163
Hard luck on Wales. Had the chances to win. I think a stronger
defence is needed though. Romania had chances to score about 5 or six
on the break.
Congratualtions to Romania.
GAry
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