| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name
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| 115.1 | Yes. | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Thu Nov 07 1991 16:46 | 10 | 
|  |     What's all the fuss anyway (I didn't see the 'offensive' note). If it
    was to do with a certain elderly, overweight Jewish tycoon popping his
    clogs - what's wrong with that, and it certainly isn't anything to do
    with footie. (Although the sight of R Maxwell Esq wallowing onto the
    pitch at Wembley was enough to put one off one's tea).
    
    Cunno is innocent, a lot of what he writes is twaddle - but it is
    ENTERTAINING twaddle, and can cause mirth...
    
    jb.
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| 115.2 |  | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | Dances with Wilderbeasts | Thu Nov 07 1991 16:51 | 6 | 
|  | >>>    Cunno is innocent, a lot of what he writes is twaddle - but it is
>>>    ENTERTAINING twaddle, and can cause mirth...
    
    totally agree...................
    
    Paul
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| 115.3 |  | RTOEU::RDELANEY | Aperralunis..... | Thu Nov 07 1991 17:11 | 3 | 
|  |     As long as he doesn't mention TGA !!
    
    	- Robin
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| 115.4 |  | CROWN::MURRAY | Digital has it. Well sort of | Thu Nov 07 1991 17:23 | 7 | 
|  |     
    
    Come back CUNNO, but dont make changes just to accommodate your 
    knockers :-)
    
    
    Paul
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| 115.5 | 8*))) | MASALA::JJACK |  | Thu Nov 07 1991 17:33 | 9 | 
|  |     
    Cunno chose to leave...he wasn't asked !
    Anyway,he's a football fan,so no doubt he will be back soon whether
    anyone petitions on his behalf or not.
    
    Personally,I think he talks a bad lot of crap......but then again,so do
    I !!!!!
   
    
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| 115.6 |  | TOTH::CHAVES |  | Thu Nov 07 1991 17:34 | 16 | 
|  |     Cunno off line? Tell me it isn't true. I came in this morning and the
    first thing I did was login to the Pool topic anxious to read his
    game report. If anything, lets make conditional:
    
    1) No more mention of TGA until he scores 1 for Ireland
    
    2) If we, those across the pond, make it to England for a spring match,
       Cunno will join us for a few beers and a match. (No one should have
       to take so much punishment)
    
    Besides, where would the Pool history, TGA status, Friday afternoon
    Mancs prediction, etc, etc, come from?
    
    JC
    
    
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| 115.7 |  | CLADA::DODONNELL | Denis | Thu Nov 07 1991 18:07 | 4 | 
|  |     
I agree 100% with the last note. Cunnos note was no doubt offensive to
some people. But let him take his criticism like a man. By crying
"victimisation" he is inviting sympathy - and getting it. 
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| 115.8 | I may not be very popular for this, but ... | ANNECY::ROWLAND_A | a slip of the tongue | Thu Nov 07 1991 18:09 | 33 | 
|  |     
    
    I'm sorry to say this, but I do feel that the base note does contain a
    couple of inaccuracies. Most notably, anyone who chastises someone for
    what they are *thinking* would have to be telepathic in the majority of
    cases. You generally only know peoples' opinions by the things that
    they *say*, or have *said* previously.
                                            
    Now, in most "civilised" parts of this world, a man is entitled to
    state his opinion, or whatever, on what he likes. Freedom of thought,
    freedom of speech, and all that. Great. What this issue boils down to
    is that IT ISN'T ALWAYS APPROPRIATE to do that. I'll give you an
    example. The man writing this note once dropped an *enormous* bollock
    at a social gathering by telling a "Terry Waite" joke, albeit
    unwittingly, in front of one of said Mr Waite's very good friends.
    Needless to say this caused a great deal of embarrassment, and upset
    the people concerned. The point is, had I known, I'd never have done
    it. The point HERE is that you never know who might be reading these
    conferences. What may be entered as a piece of idle banter can,
    conceivably, upset an unwitting reader. IF that happens, it clearly
    contravenes Notes rules, and as such, the Mod did his job in this case.
    
    Cunno has not been persecuted into leaving this conference. The title
    of this topic really is, in all honesty, a bit silly - this isn't about
    a crime, for f****' sake. If the man is "guilty" of anything at all,
    then it is nothing more than a slight error of judgement on his part.
    The sooner he wakes up to this fact and starts contributing again the
    better, as far as I'm concerned. It's only been a day and I'm already
    missing the old bullshit... Not to mention the fact that the Scousers
    actually WON for once !!!!
                       
    
    Adam "not_a_moaning_minnie" Rowland.  
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| 115.9 |  | YUPPY::MCCABE | Mike | Thu Nov 07 1991 18:27 | 6 | 
|  |     I agree with .5, .7 and .8.  In football terms Martin has had a yellow
    card for what in the ref's opinion was a foul.  If every footballer who
    thought he'd been booked unfairly game up the game we'd soon have no
    one playing it.
          
    Mike M   
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| 115.10 |  | YUPPY::PANES | A nation of shoplifters | Thu Nov 07 1991 18:34 | 7 | 
|  |   I would have thought the eponymous title of this topic and the subject
matter of the conference were mutually exclusive ( oblig. smiley ).
 I rather used to enjoy Martin's drivel, but hes a big boy now and its
up to him.
Stuart De Cuellar
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| 115.11 |  | ASKFOR::HAIGH | Still hazy after all these beers | Fri Nov 08 1991 09:40 | 14 | 
|  |     
    	I agree with the last couple, if Cunno wants to dish it out, (which
    he obviously enjoys), he shouldn't be surprised if he get's the
    occasional wrap on the knuckles. 
    
    	Grow up man! Besides
    
    
    	WE ALL KNOW YOU'RE STILL READING!!!
    
    	Now he'll never come back.
    
    
    		Steve
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| 115.12 | COME BACK CUNNO!!! | UNTADI::WILCOCKSON | Pass the lard | Fri Nov 08 1991 09:41 | 8 | 
|  |     Re .8   arf,arf, thank you Adam for pointing out the sillyness of
    the title of this note. 
    
    Personally I think it would be a sad day indeed if all sillyness in
    this conference was replaced by the kind of drivel the pin-heads
    come out with.
    
    Al.
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| 115.13 | NEWS FROM CUNNO!!! | ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY | Electric Shaughs! | Fri Nov 08 1991 11:43 | 21 | 
|  | ...........STOP PRESS.......
 
News just in..... I was showing Cunno somthing on the system last evening when
I "accidently" went in to the football notes.  Yes, he has read the note 115 and
its replies and I would say that he is rather chuffed at the whole sordid 
thing. Carring on on matters Cunno, on the announcement of "Deanos" supposed
move to Leeds, Cunno announced that for the Five million quid spent on a 
striker that cannot score goals, and a defender who has not kicked a ball all 
season, Souness SHOULD have bought "Guess who" instead of the pair and put the 
rest of the money towards a Cunno apprication society.....
HE WILL BE BACK, BELIEVE ME, HE WILL BE BACK.......maybe not today, maybe not 
tommorow, but soon, and for the rest of his life. 
Coming soon to a cinema near you,
THE RETURN OF THE CUNNO PART 1
Rgds,
Shaughs.
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| 115.14 | correction | SIOG::SPENCER | Peter Spencer | Fri Nov 08 1991 12:11 | 6 | 
|  |     >	a Cunno apprication society.....
    	        ^^^^^^
    
    Nearly got it right. The first 'p' should be a space, a 'k' missing and 
    the 'ation' is superfluous. ;-)
    
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| 115.15 | in a similar vein,...... | YUPPY::PANES | You can't claim VAT on a read receipt | Fri Nov 08 1991 12:16 | 9 | 
|  |           <<< Note 115.13 by ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY "Electric Shaughs!" >>>
                            -< NEWS FROM CUNNO!!! >-
>>THE RETURN OF THE CUNNO PRAT
   Surely a Freudian typo?? ( oblig more smileys than you can shake a stick at)
   Stuart
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| 115.16 | You can do it! You know you want to! | JURA::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Fri Nov 08 1991 12:25 | 12 | 
|  |     Oh come on Cunno!  Come back please, we won't laugh at you. Honest!
    Well, not unless you say something funny...or mention TGA...or
    Liverpool...or the Mancs...or anything at all come to think of it.
    
    I need my daily dose of TGA statistics, and Liverpools trophy winning
    history, and Man UTD's shortcomings (oo-er mrs, sorry, wrong
    conference)
    
    WE WANT CUNNO (repeat ad nauseum)
    
    Stevo
    
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| 115.17 | So what if he leaves | KAOFS::G_LARKIN | dtn 621-4091 | Fri Nov 08 1991 13:27 | 15 | 
|  |     What does the guy want ?? An invitation embossed in gold? Admittedly, I
    used to enjoy 'some' of his notes, but to dedicate a note to grovel at
    his feet! 
    
    Maybe he should stop being so sensitive and grow up a little. We all
    get notes hidden every so often for something we've said or implied
    that hurt someone elses feelings. How many of us make such a big deal
    about it?
    
    
    I say leave him where he is!!
    
    Gerry ��
           -
    
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| 115.18 |  | SEDSWS::WILLMOTT |  | Fri Nov 08 1991 14:40 | 9 | 
|  |     
    
    	I don't think his contributions will be missed... 
    	It's the replies, 30.85 being a classic example
    	He is the prefect springboard for comedy. 
    	
    	BTW what did he do ? 
    
    	CHris
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| 115.19 | English football sucks!!!! | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | I tunneled Hys�n!!! | Fri Nov 08 1991 15:51 | 41 | 
|  | 
As a non-British noter, i have always enjoyed reading all the bullshit about
how wonderful certain brittish clubs and players are. If my english was a bit
better, i would explain to all of you;
- That Glenn Hys�n is slower than a three-legged donkey
- That John Barnes wouldn't fit in a second-division team in Norway
- That a English international without at least 10 dives inside the penalty
  area is a miracle
- Why half the swedish people falls asleep at about 16.20 every saturday
  during the "Tipsextra"-season (live English 1st-division football)
- How it comes that people from Malm� don't know anything about
  football (they don't know anything about NOTHING)
- That during the next decade, Sweden will win Euro-92, WC-94, Euro-96,
  WC-98 AND Euro-2000
But, since i am a quiet and well-raised person, i stick to adding info such
as how much a parking-spot costs in Gothenburg and what the distance between
Stockholm and Norrk�ping are.
I have always felt that there is a balance in this conference between serious
discussions and crap, and that's why it's so exiting to enter it every morning.
For those of you who have the gift of writing funny, sarcastic and 
    inspirational notes, keep up the good work!!!!!!! But be careful when
    you comes close to the boarder-lines...
Mats
P.S.    I have never met TGC or TGA, but i have met TGB (The Great Brolin).
        Perhaps if we could convert Cunno to true Swedoism, he would enter
        again? D.S.
P.P.S.  How do you know that Liverpool is playing a home game?
	
	There's a bicyckle parked outside Anfield Road. D.S.
    
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| 115.20 | keep them coming. | TOTH::CHAVES |  | Fri Nov 08 1991 16:27 | 12 | 
|  |     Mats,
    
    I don't care how many Euros Sweden wins so long as Malmo keeps on
    developing international-quality players and sending them to Benfica.
    
    We'll even let you take � the credit for this year' European
    Champions Cup.
    
    JC
    
    BTW, with the new format and all Benfica will have plenty of money
    to spend next year. Who havve you got for us?
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| 115.21 | Many goodies to come | GOTA1::APPELQVIST | I tunneled Hys�n!!! | Fri Nov 08 1991 18:16 | 47 | 
|  | 
My dream as a little kid was to become a professional footballplayer somewhere
in Europe, especially in Holland (they where the greatest in the mid 70s). I
shared that dream with many of my friends, team-mates and players in other
teams. Some of them did make it, many of us found out that theres much other
pleasures in life than playing football. As a 16 year old kid in a major club
in Stockholm, you had to practice 7 days a week and at the same time try to
keep up with scool. So my carreer went the opposit way, Div1, div3, div5 and
now occasionally div7 reserves. But i'm not unhappy for that. I rather enjoy
playing and practice 2-3 time/week and going out with my friend for a beer on
friday evening.
Swedish football is not professional, and that has always been a disadvantage
for us. I know that a amateurplayer becoming a pro, develops a lot of skills he
wouldn't have if he stayed home, but i truely beleive that if there was a
professional leauge in Sweden, they would become even better. We share that
problem with many countries, and its fortunate for professional countries to
have a goldmine to dig in and get the best pieces. Some of the Swedish clubs
(Malm� and G�teborg) are half professional and kids can go to football-college,
but we can never compete with the major clubs in Europe when it comes to money.
Perhaps in a few years when we joined the Common Market, we can pay our own
players the same amount of money as the rest of Europe and even buy players
from other countries. In the mean time, i think it's a good thing to export
players to Europe, as i said, their performance will improve.
What im am trying to say with my beginning is that if we had professional
football in Sweden when i was young, i would had a bigger chance to earn a 
living doing something i enjoyed most. Now that i'm 15 yars older, i'm lucky
to have an education and a job i can continue to work with to my pension. 
Well, what have to offer to Europe? The Swedish team for the olympics are 
full with talent players, and they have been doing well lately. A win against
Greece away next wednesday and we are practically threw for the next round.
My favourite is a defender, Johan Mj�llby. He is tall and fast and very strong
in the air. Also there is Pascal Simson, a striker with great dribling capacity.
Both plays for AIK, a team from Solna outside Stockholm. They will be in the
ECWC next season. In IFK G�terborg there is H�kan Mild, A strong midfielder with
great potential. And there's also Fredik Gisecke, a junior striker with the same
scoring-capabilicy as Thomas Brolin.
Johnny Ekstr�m came back to Sweden after sitting on various french benches
during the last years, and he has been doing exremely well in IFK G�teborg. I
think he would love a second chance in Europe. Trade him for Magnusson for
example. How is Thern doing, and what have happened to Magnusson? The last i
saw of him was agaist Brazil in the first round in WC90.
Mats
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| 115.22 | So wha'appen ?? | MIACT::RANKINE |  | Fri Nov 08 1991 19:13 | 22 | 
|  |     Getting back to the Cunno situ..
    
    As a new and occasional noter, I missed the cunno incident, so I can
    only go by the earlier notes here.
    
    I read the situ as ....Cunno enters a dodgy note , the note offends
    someone, the note is hidden, cunno 'leaves' the conference.
    
    Is this how it is ??              If so...
    
    As was mentioned earlier, within reasons, we have the ability of free
    speech..but in notes we have to be sensitive to the rules and regs.
    Cunno has made the decision not to note anymore, he has excercised his
    right...he has the option to return at any time..I hope he does.
    
    If he has been 'banned' then I can think of a few (one in particular)
    noters who should be banned before cunno...see 47 and 48 as examples.
    
    can someone clarify the situ for me.??
    
    Paul
    
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| 115.23 | Look behind the smoke-screen... | TRUCKS::SANT |  | Sat Nov 09 1991 09:44 | 28 | 
|  |     
    	re last...
    
    	As one fortunate (?!) to have read Martin's ramblings before they
    	got bombed, the situation is pretty clear to me..
    
    	Martin enters absolutely ridiculous note ;-) suggesting all manner
    	of reasons why Uncle Bob "died mysteriously", and as you would 
    	expect the main one involved TGD.
    
    	Someone pointed out that this "speculation" might offend anyone
    	remotely related to Maxwell (and I guess it would have...) and the
    	note was hidden. Martin probably realises he went a little far and
    	apologises for upsetting anyone - though I doubt anyone *really*
    	was offended, I certainly wasn't 8-) - and quits the football note.
    
    	No one "threw him out"...he chose to blub. He would be welcomed
    	back by some and not missed by others. It's his choice. Why the
    	big fuss? Probably because it's such a surprise that a seemingly
    	thick-skinned blind-red eejit got so upset over something so
    	trivial 8-) I think it's because he knows his beloved Anfield
    	dynasty is coming to an end and all he will have is memories, but
    	I'm sure that's not the reason at all.....
    
    	So what?
    
    	Andy.
    
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| 115.24 | Please cunno come back (sic) | HUGH::RAYNERT | Sysman>@REO/LOC=G2 | Mon Nov 11 1991 09:41 | 6 | 
|  |     I don't have long to read notes each day.
   
    It would be nice if when I see '30 new notes',  that its about football 
    and not all this crap about cunno.   
    
    Ps. cunno come back and get the football going again.
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| 115.25 | Agree | OPG::TONY |  | Tue Nov 12 1991 17:37 | 5 | 
|  | Re .24
	Its getting really boring now, worse that watching Arsenal and Liverpool
Tony
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| 115.26 | CUNNO IS COMING !!! | ESSB::TSHAUGHNESSY | Electric Shaughs! | Tue Nov 12 1991 19:45 | 17 | 
|  |  >> Its getting really boring now, worse that watching Arsenal and Liverpool
Never fear my son, the Great one has spoken to me through a medium. He has 
assured me that "Cunnovitis" will strike this conference again in the near 
future... The Aldoism sect will be the responsible party for bringing this
deadly vermin back into our lives, with the advent of a strike by TGA to 
save Irelands position in Group 7. If that result does not favour our
mutual friend he will haunt the vaults of this conference in search of an
explaination from our English counterparts as to why they could qualify
for the competition ahead of the team TGA plays for. The 25 goal mark note
still looms also so please beware. The football topic will be added again
to the vax account of one ESSB::MCUNNIFFE regardless of the result in group 7.
Rgds,
Shaughs.
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| 115.27 | and there was light... | RUTILE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Thu Nov 14 1991 14:26 | 6 | 
|  |     PRAISE THE LORD.  For He is risen! He has returned, not as a man, but
    as king of noters.   :-)
    
    See 30.157
    
    Stevo  
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| 115.28 | zzzzzzzzzzz | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | No Irish in Sweden | Mon Nov 25 1991 11:33 | 10 | 
|  |     
    Hello world,
    
    did anyone else recieve a mail containing some rantings from 'the noter
    of the year' ?
    
    Is it a deliberate attempt to bore the football noting community or
    have me and mr HAWLEYI been selected for extra 'victimisation' ?
    
    Paul :-)
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| 115.29 | Not I | RTOEU::RDELANEY | Aperralunis..... | Mon Nov 25 1991 11:34 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 115.30 | On e of the (chosen) few | BAHTAT::BLYTHE | Ee bah gum th's trouble at t'mill | Mon Nov 25 1991 11:42 | 3 | 
|  |     I got one.
    
    jb.
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| 115.31 | Hate to admit it having started all this | CURRNT::PAGED | Say NEXT UNSEEN to Scottish Football | Mon Nov 25 1991 11:48 | 2 | 
|  |     Me too. The reason is still unclear.
    
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| 115.32 | Re.last...Hate your personal name btw ! | PAKORA::JJACK | Say NEXT UNSEEN to CURRNT::PAGED | Mon Nov 25 1991 13:10 | 1 | 
|  |     
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| 115.33 | Junk Mail | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Hanging out your old Love Letters | Mon Nov 25 1991 13:53 | 3 | 
|  |     Just what is the lad up to? I recieved an Aldo mail as well.
    
    Barry.
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| 115.34 | ditto | YUPPY::PANES | oooh said Jen, oh said Nige | Mon Nov 25 1991 16:41 | 0 | 
| 115.35 | Aldo's for kids | YUPPY::PATEMAN | CPFC - The McLaren of The First Division | Mon Nov 25 1991 16:42 | 5 | 
|  |     Has anybody else seen a new kiddies book that's come out called "Aldo"?
    
    Has Cunno moved into publishing?????
    
    The FE Watcher
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| 115.36 | deja vu? Me too! | TRUCKS::SANT |  | Mon Nov 25 1991 17:07 | 8 | 
|  |     
    	re .28 and some...
    
    	...and I thought I was the only one 8-)
    
    	fascinating huh?
    	
    	Andy.
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| 115.37 | madness in the family? | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | do you mean 1400 patches? | Tue Nov 26 1991 13:31 | 3 | 
|  |     i dunno about youse, but i got another weird mail message yesterday...
    Ian.
    
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| 115.38 | You mean like this one ? | CURRNT::PAGED | Event Driven Dev Grp @NEW | Tue Nov 26 1991 13:38 | 16 | 
| 115.39 | note set hidden | GALVIA::SPAIN | There's always the U.S. | Tue Nov 26 1991 14:04 | 13 | 
|  |     
    The previous note has been set hidden but Dave would like it to be
    known that he doesn't want anymore of the following type messages.
    
    >
    >To the juvenile delinquent who just sent me the following message, can 
    >we stop
    >poluting the net with this sort of BS ? Thanks. Dave.
    
    > From:   HAMPS::64648::CUNNOS_DAD
    
    
    Gary.
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| 115.40 | just when you thought it was safe! | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | I've got a piccy of Cunno, too | Wed Dec 11 1991 15:35 | 7 | 
|  |     Many of you will be receiving the famed 'Cunno picture' soon...
    I have learned that 10 noters have been picked out to receive a copy
    of the photo of THE two most lethal strikers in the game...
    Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
    IT COULD BE YOU!!!
    Ian.
    
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| 115.41 | sad | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | I've got a piccy of Cunno, too | Wed Dec 11 1991 15:36 | 8 | 
|  |     > Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
    
    thats recipients, not lethal strikers...
    although....
    
    Ian.
    :-)
    
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| 115.42 | Northern chic???? | YUPPY::PANES | Its the Filth, Ma'am | Wed Dec 11 1991 15:45 | 14 | 
|  |      <<< Note 115.41 by KERNEL::HAWLEYI "I've got a piccy of Cunno, too" >>>
                                    -< sad >-
>    > Myself, Paul Watterson and STuart Panes are just 3...
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^
  I've been know to bang a few in, but unfortunately I haven't got a 
  a "joey" moustache.
  T.G.P   
     
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| 115.43 | Stevo | RUTILE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Wed Dec 11 1991 17:08 | 2 | 
|  |     Memememe,  I want one, please Sir!
    
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| 115.44 | erm... | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | I've got a piccy of Cunno, too | Wed Dec 11 1991 17:10 | 7 | 
|  |     re.last
    
    a photo of cunno or a John Aldridge moustache?!?!
    
    Ian.
    :^)
    
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| 115.45 | Touched by the photo of Cunno. | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Are you with me Doctor Wu? | Wed Dec 11 1991 18:04 | 6 | 
|  |     Just this minute recieved my photo. Cunno seems to be going for the
    Paul McCartney fringe by the looks of it. As for TGA's moustache, well,
    there's always a career for him in the army when he hangs up his 
    footy boots.
    
    Barry.
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| 115.46 | Cunno's pic arrives... | TRUCKS::SANT |  | Thu Dec 12 1991 09:15 | 4 | 
|  |     
    	I got mine....but who's that bloke standing next to him? 8-)
    
    	Andy.
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| 115.47 | Now available | BLKPUD::WATTERSONP | I've got a piccy of Cunno | Fri Dec 13 1991 00:20 | 11 | 
|  |     
    An extract from this 'masterpiece' is now available in DDIF format (so
    you can see what the mighty Cunno really looks like........)
    
    COPY COMICS::CANDA.TXT <wherever>
    
    Paul
    
    PS  - I did not waste valuable time scanning and cropping this
    picture !
                                            
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| 115.48 |  | RUTILE::CAMPBELL | Real ponies don't go oink! | Fri Dec 13 1991 09:34 | 6 | 
|  |     Just gorrit!  Do you know what?   Cunno looks just like I thought he
    would!
    
    Hahahaha.
    
    Stevo :-)
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| 115.49 | Won't Get Fooled Again | ARRODS::OHAGANB | Are you with me Doctor Wu? | Fri Dec 13 1991 12:48 | 3 | 
|  |     You're right Stuart, it does look like a fake. 
    
    Barry.
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| 115.50 | must be real | KERNEL::HAWLEYI | Paul Wattersons love-child | Fri Dec 13 1991 13:36 | 5 | 
|  |     
    well, Paul didnt fake the scanning, and i doubt that Martin would have
    had the gumption to fake the photo...
    Ian.
    
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