Conference trucks::football;1

	Here's a couple of topics being banded about the stands and 
	pubs of Britain.


	o Away kits - will sales of Black & White telly's finally 
	  increase??????

	Here's a quote from the Sunday Independant :-

	" A collective boo to football kit manufacturers and a host of League
	clubs for the dreadful away strips they will be foisting on the 
	public this season.  In their bilious psychedelia they epitomise the
	yawning gap between fashion and style"

	Some tricky gob-fulls in their, but I think I get the message....

	o Civil Laws - 3 new laws have been introduced onto the terraces
	this season,

		1..Don't chuck anything on the pitch
		2..Don't 'invade' the pitch
		3..NO offensive or racist chants or songs

	Obviously I've cut the legal frills out of the above guidelines,
	but the ideas are the same.

	Does anyone know the answers to the following queries I have:-

		+ Who is enforcing these new laws, Police or Club?
		+ Who will prosecute?
		+ What are the ranges of sentences available to the 
		  enforcers?
		+ Are there implications for the Live coverages of 
		  matches on the T.V., e.g. audio dubs, delayed coverage, etc.
		+ Are they for any other sports?
		+ Im sure there are many more questions and undoubted
		  problems with these laws.
	

	o Are clubs taking the pi**???
	  Most first division teams are now using travel clubs for many
	  away games, the pricing structure for these trips I feel, is 
	  becoming exhorbitant.  An example is the Arsenal travel club
	  

		Austria Vs Arsenal
		European cup first round second leg
		Wednesday, October 2, kick-off 7.30 p.m.

		2 day air trip = � 425

	Admitedly all the frills added, hotel etc, but still, 425???????

	Surely some clubs are pricing their fans of the terraces........



			Cheers Al.

    
    Re prices, I thin kthe clubs are trying to discourage hooliganism by
    putting the prices up.  This will only work if you have no other way of
    getting to the game.  Most fans will end up making their own way to
    matches which leads to more problems.
    
    Irish football fans are currently being ripped off over the forthcoming
    game in Poland.  Most trips are �425-�450 for 3 days (2 nights) which 
    is just a case of milking the fans (I paid �300 2 years ago to go to 
    Hungary for 4 days).  The only way out is to make your own
    arrangements.  It looks like it will be considerably cheaper to travel
    to London, get a flight from there and book your own accomodation.
    
    Football fans are fighting back through fanzines and organisation like
    the Football Supporters Association.
    
    Gary.  

    
      Re....Away European trips..
    
       The problem with Club run trips is that they go straight to the
    ground and then you go sraight home afterwards.Spurs play in Austria
    tomorrow night,the club have two planes and Coaches going,which is ok
    if you just want to go to the game and then shoot off home.Unfortunatly
    I couldnt go as Im off on Holiday on Thursday,but a couple of Mates of
    mine ended up paying �166 just for the flight and then getting
    accomodation and match tickets in Austria.Stockerau is justy outside
    Vienna so they can stay in Vienna and just make there way to Stockerau
    on match day.This is more like a real European trip,and I think there
    will be alot of other Spurs fans doing it that way.
      As Gary says,the Clubs are trying to put Fans off going....but it
    that wont work...You cant beat a good European trip.
    
    Dave...

>>	The only way out is to make your own
>>    arrangements.  It looks like it will be considerably cheaper to travel
>>    to London, get a flight from there and book your own accomodation.
    
>>    Football fans are fighting back through fanzines and organisation like
>>    the Football Supporters Association.
    
Gary,
	Have you made any arrangements for the Polish trip? I know quite a few
who are interested/will be going. Obviously the cheaper the better...any
suggestions?

Michael.

    
    re .3....
    
    Antony and I are going to a pub in Gosport which is showing the game
    live on some sort of cable channel....
    
    Doing anything tomorrow night, Dave...?
    
    
    Andy.

    
    
    >Have you made any arrangements for the Polish trip? I know quite a few
    >who are interested/will be going. Obviously the cheaper the
    >better..any suggestions?
    
    
    Nothing planned yet Mick.  I don't fancy being ripped off so I'm
    checking out flights from London.  The best I've got so far is STG�279
    but a mate in Limerick was quoted STG�210.  Going to London would also
    mean seeing a game or 2 there as well and Chelsea just happen to be at
    home to Liverpool the following Saturday.
    
    Apparently everything is very cheap once you get to Warsaw.  I'd much
    rather make my own way there even if it costs the same rather than
    contribute to Ray Treacy's fat profits or those of Irish Travel.
    
    Given the current situation in the Soviet Union the game may even be in
    doubt.
    
    Gary.

    
    Re.5   Andy...
    
       Gosport's alittle too far for me to go,as the Game kicks off at
    6:30pm,so I will have to make do with Live Radio Commentary with the
    Famous Jonathan Pearce and Bobby Moore or Terry Neil on Capital Gold.
    
      I thought ITV had signed an Exclusive deal to screen Spurs's European
    Games Live.....???????
    
    Dave...

    
    re .8...
    
    Dunno......Ant just suggested it, and since footie and a beer were
    involved, how could I refuse ?? Even if I have to root for Spurs ! 8-)
    
    
    Andy.

    As far as I understand the highlights of the game are being shown on
    ITV at about 10:40.
    
    Paul.

    Could'nt think of a place to insert this (behave!) so here's as good
    as any.
    
    The new WSC issue has a couple of mirth invoking lines this week. The
    first from an article about football strips:
    
    "The Brighton team, with shorts as striped as their shirts, were
    described in The Observer as looking like eleven Andy Pandys on
    acid".
    
    But do the tops still look like TESCO bags one asks?
    
    The second article deals with South African footy and throws up 
    some pretty interesting amateur team names:
    
    "Where else would you see an amateur cup game between Sheffield Sunday
     and Argentina? We have Ashton Villa, Brains Milan and Rainbow
     Juventus. We have Oscar Hotspurs, Kelvinator Arsenal and Pele Utd
     Brothers. We have AC Guillit Stars, and they are just a netball 
     team".
    
     Brains Milan versus, my favourite, Pele Utd Brothers. Has a certain
     ring to it doncha think?
    
    
     Barry.
    

	The Super League is upon us.....any comments..


	o Do you think the League clubs, especially II, III and IV
	  have been too tempted by the 'pay-off' offered by 
	  Mr Kelly's 'super-league'.

	o Will people be driven back to supporting their smaller
	  local lower division clubs?

	o What will happen on the European front, from which league's
	  will the clubs be chosen?

	o What happens to the F.A. cup?  

	o How will it affect the England squad's selection options?
	  
	o Who is the controlling body for the super-league, how will
	  transfers be handled?  Will the big-clubs get 'bigger' and
	  consequently 'better'?



	Just some points I thought of on the spur of the moment.

			Cheers Al.

    
    What happens to the state of football in this country, then ? It's all
    very well for the big clubs to have MORE millions to spend, but what
    are they going to spend it on when smaller clubs are being forced under
    ? Answer - foreigners ? So, by destroying the "infrastructure" of the
    game, in fifteen years time we'll have a national team just about
    capable of competing with Germany's under 16s...
    
    
    Adam.
    

    I went to see "Fever Pitch" last night, the film based on Nick
    Hancock's best-selling book. I thought it was brilliant. Has anyone 
    else seen it yet??..What did you think of it??..
    
    Ray....
    
    ps....this note seemed the most appropriate to post this entry.... 

    Ray,
    
    Would that be Nick Hornby? (Obviously the lack of alcohol is kicking in
    already!) 
    
    From what I've heard the footie has been toned down, in order to
    concentrate on the relationship, so anyone can enjoy it. It's getting
    good reviews.
    
    
    			
    				Stretch.