Conference dssdev::application-generator

    
    Jerry,
    
    Will check this out on a machine here
    
    rgs
    
    mick

    One of my customers is asking too.  They are using V2.1A in the
    traditional timesharing environment (COBOL/FORMS/Rdb, no ACMS) and
    would like to upgrade to VMS V7.1 (Alpha).  There was a mention from
    the support center that a future release of of ACMS would be certified
    to work with Application Generator V2.1A and VMS V7.1.  Could this be
    in the works?  And does this imply that the Application Generator will
    tolerate VMS V7.1?
    
    My customer is also asking about using Rdb V7.0 with this product. 
    They have installed the multiversion product, so they have more
    flexibility when it comes to Oracle Rdb.
    
    Any comments would be appreciated.
    
    Bob

    
    Sorry for delay but One of our guys is putting together a 7.1 system. I
    would hope to hear update later..If not We will put a note in here 
    later to-day with the story
    
    We do see one problem if you try to INSTALL Decadmire 2.1a on a system
    that ONLY has Oracle RDB 7.0. We have included a couple of demo
    databases with the kit that were origonally built with Oracle Rdb
    4.2!!! would you belive. Normally the intsall would convert them to
    the version of RDB you have on your system...but seemingly the 7.0 RMU
    command only works on converting database of 5.1 of greater. 
    
    This is a simple enough fix for us..ie we will convert the demos
    databases to 5.1 and re package them
    
    more later
    
    rgs
    
    Mick

    
    Will have word monday morning on this...Installs perfectly we just
    want to run our test suite
    
    rgs
    
    mick

	IFDL - Unauthorized access is Prohibited

Username: system
Password: 
        Welcome to IFDL, VAX 6000-520, OpenVMS VAX V7.1

    Last interactive login on Friday,  9-MAY-1997 09:34
    Last non-interactive login on Friday,  9-MAY-1997 00:12

 
.IFDL> set def sys$update
.IFDL> @vmsinstal

	OpenVMS VAX Software Product Installation Procedure V7.1


It is 9-MAY-1997 at 09:41.

Enter a question mark (?) at any time for help.

* Are you satisfied with the backup of your system disk [YES]? 
* Where will the distribution volumes be mounted:
USER$BOURQUARD:[BOURQUARD.KITS.DADM_V21A]

Enter the products to be processed from the first distribution volume set.
* Products: DECADM_VM01021A
* Enter installation options you wish to use (none): 
The following products will be processed:

  DECADM_VM010 V21.A

	Beginning installation of DECADM_VM010 V21.A at 09:41

%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...
%VMSINSTAL-I-RELMOVED, Product's release notes have been moved to SYS$HELP.


    **********************************************************************
    *                                                                    *
    *                      DECADMIRE    V 2 . 1                          *
    *                      ====================                          *
    *                      Full Development Kit                          *
    *                                                                    *
    *                     Copyright (C) 1995 BY                          *
    *                 Mirus Data AB, Gothenburg, Sweden                  *
    *			    All Rights Reserved.                         *
    *                                                                    *
    **********************************************************************



    Checking system requirements ...
 
* Have you registered and loaded the DECADMIRE PAK's [YES]? 
* Do you want to purge files replaced by this installation [YES]? n
 
* Do you wish to install the main kit (95000 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install the pc-builder/generator kit (14000 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install the DECFORMS kit (2500 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install Cobol generator (5900 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install Fortran generator (5900 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install Pascal generator (5900 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install DEC C generator (5900 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install ACMS generator (1000 blocks) [YES]? 
 
* Do you wish to install the demonstration package (32000 blocks) [YES]? 
	
	This installation vill create a directory structure from one
	root directory [MIRA].

* Enter the DECADMIRE root directory device: [SYS$SYSDEVICE]: userc$:
* Do you want to run the IVP after the installation [YES]? 

  The remainder of the installation is expected to take between 
  15 and 40 minutes.

  No further questions will be asked during this installation.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring main kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set B ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, main kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring Cobol kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set C ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, Cobol kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-DEMKITSTART, restoring Demonstration Package.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set D ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-DEMKITEND, Demonstration Package restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring Fortran kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set E ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, Fortran kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring Pascal kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set F ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, Pascal kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring DEC C kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set H ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, DEC C kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring ACMS kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set G ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, ACMS kit restored.

%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITBEGIN, restoring PC-builder/generator kit.
%VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set I ...
%DECADM_VM010-I-MAINKITEND, Pc-builder/generator kit restored.

%CREATE-I-EXISTS, USERC$:[MIRA] already exists
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of main kit.
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [*,*]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ADMIRERZ.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ADMIRERZ.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [*,*]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3 for [*,*]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.TF.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.TF.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [*,*]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.UNIV.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.UNIV.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;1 for [*,*]
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of main kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of DECFORMS kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of DECFORMS kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of PC-builder/generator kit.
%RMU-W-PREVACL, Restoring the root ACL over a pre-existing ACL.
	This is a normal condition if you are using the CDO utility.
%RMU-I-LOGCONVRT, database root converted to current structure level
%RMU-S-CVTDBSUC, database USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;4
successfully converted from version V6.0 to V6.1
%RMU-I-CVTCOMSUC, CONVERT committed for
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;4 to version V6.1
%RMU-W-PREVACL, Restoring the root ACL over a pre-existing ACL.
	This is a normal condition if you are using the CDO utility.
%RMU-I-LOGCONVRT, database root converted to current structure level
%RMU-S-CVTDBSUC, database
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ADMIRERZ.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;2 successfully converted
from version V6.0 to V6.1
%RMU-I-CVTCOMSUC, CONVERT committed for
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ADMIRERZ.DAT_DEM>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;2 to version V6.1
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of PC-builder/generator kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of Cobol kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of Cobol kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of Fortran kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of Fortran kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of Pascal kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of Pascal kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of DEC C kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of DEC C kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINSTART, beginning installation of ACMS kit.
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSMAINEND, installation of ACMS kit complete.

%DECADM_VM010-I-INSDEMSTART, beginning installation of Demonstration Package.
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ADMIRERZ.BAS>AD_BAS_COB.RDB;2 for [SYSTEM]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.BAS>ORD_BAS.RDB;3
for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to USERC$:<MIRA.DEMO.ORDER.BAS>ORD_BAS.RDB;3
for [*,*]
%DECADM_VM010-I-INSDEMEND, installation of Demonstration Package completed..


  The following directories have been created/updated by this installation:

	[SYS$STARTUP]			- added MIRA$STRTUP_V21.COM
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.COM]		- added MIRA$LOGIN.COM
 					        MIRA$SYS_DEF.COM
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added DECADMIRE BASE FILES
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added DECFORMS files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added PC-builder/generator files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added Cobol files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added Fortran files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added Pascal files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.TOOL...]	- added DEC C files
 					        SEE RELEASE NOTES
 
	MIRA$DISK:[MIRA.DEMO...]	- added Demonstration Package

  The final part of the installation process will now occur.
  Upon completion of this installation, please be sure to edit the system  
  startup file in order to execute SYS$STARTUP:MIRA$STRTUP_V21.COM

 Please read the release notes before using DECADMIRE. These contain important
 information for this release.

  These are in SYS$HELP:DECADM_VM01021A.RELEASE_NOTES.

%VMSINSTAL-I-MOVEFILES, Files will now be moved to their target directories...
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table MIRA_V21_LOGICALS was not found - new table
created
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table ORD_DEMO_V21_TAB was not found - new table
created
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table TF_DEMO_V21_TAB was not found - new table
created
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table UNI_DEMO_V21_TAB was not found - new table
created
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table AD_DEMO_V21_TAB was not found - new table
created
%DCL-I-TABNOTFND, previous table PROJ_1_V21_TAB was not found - new table created

     DECADMIRE Installation Verification Procedure invoked

     This IVP can also be run manually from SYS$TEST by invoking
       For a DECADMIRE traditional installation
       @SYS$TEST:DECADMIRE_ivp.com

       For a DECADMIRE C/S installation
       @SYS$TEST:DECADMIRE_vb_ivp.com


     Starting the DECADMIRE C/S IVP...

     The IVP will create a DECADMIRE Design Database and generate
     Visual Basic code for a M_TAB module, which can be found in 
     the PROJ_1 dataset VBS directory


%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table MIRA_V21_LOGICALS has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table ORD_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table TF_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table UNI_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table AD_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table PROJ_1_V21_TAB has been superseded
%RMU-I-LOGCONVRT, database root converted to current structure level
%RMU-S-CVTDBSUC, database USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3
successfully converted from version V6.0 to V6.1
%RMU-I-CVTCOMSUC, CONVERT committed for
USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3 to version V6.1
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3 for [60,1]
%RMU-I-ACLADDED, RMU access added to
USERC$:<MIRA.PROJ_1.DAT>MDD_DESIGN_BASE.RDB;3 for [*,*]
Code generation - CUST_VB
Code generation completed

     Cleaning up... 


     DECADMIRE C/S IVP completed



     Starting the DECADMIRE IVP...

     The IVP will create a Table, Domain, Global Format, Columns
     and a M_TAB module. It will also generate DECforms code 
     which can be found in the PROJ_1 dataset SRC directory


%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table MIRA_V21_LOGICALS has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table ORD_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table TF_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table UNI_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table AD_DEMO_V21_TAB has been superseded
%DCL-I-TABSUPER, previous table PROJ_1_V21_TAB has been superseded
Code generation - CUST
Code generation completed

     Cleaning up... 


     DECADMIRE IVP completed


     DECADMIRE Installation Verification Procedure completed successfully


	Installation of DECADM_VM010 V21.A completed at 10:33

Enter the products to be processed from the next distribution volume set.
* Products: 
	VMSINSTAL procedure done at 10:37

    
    OK We developed a 2.1A based DECADMIRE Application here no problem..
    on OpenVMS 7.1. we used  DEC Rdb V6.1-0 as database.
    
    I will do some further checks here on RDB 7.0.
    
    rgs
    
    Mick
    

>>    <<< Note 686.6 by SIOG::KEYES "Digital Appliation Gen. DTN 827-2705" >>>
>>                                 -< Looks ok >-

    
>>    OK We developed a 2.1A based DECADMIRE Application here no problem..
>>    on OpenVMS 7.1. we used  DEC Rdb V6.1-0 as database.
    
Thanks for the update.  Can I consider this as Digital's official
position and tell this to a customer?  If not, what should I
tell customers regarding OpenVMS V7.1 support?

Thanks,

Jerry

    
    Yes..You can take that is offical from us.
    
    You should also check that they have SUPPORTED versions of
    the underlying products. ie if they are using Acms then 4.2 is the
    first supported version of ACMS on 4.2. 
    
    rgs
    
    Mick