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| 1090.1 | | DRDAN::KALIKOW | Info Highway Construction Crew | Tue Feb 22 1994 11:43 | 2 |
| Hmmm... Why do you think PJohnson came to *us,* JoyOfLexers?? :-)
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| 1090.2 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Tue Feb 22 1994 23:36 | 3 |
| Can someone provide a list of state abbreviations for non U.S.
people, so we can play too. I understand the concept, but I only know
about a dozen out of what I suppose should be a list of 50?
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| 1090.3 | ...state your name|name your state... | CPDW::CIUFFINI | God must be a Gemini... | Wed Feb 23 1994 05:35 | 75 |
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The list. * Note that while not a state DC is included. ( Perhaps the
contest includes DC? )
AL ALABAMA
AK ALASKA
AZ ARIZONA
AR ARKANSAS
CA CALIFORNIA
CO COLORADO
CT CONNECTICUT
DE DELAWARE
FL FLORIDA
GA GEORGIA
HI HAWAII
ID IDAHO
IL ILLINOIS
IN INDIANA
IA IOWA
KA KANSAS
KY KENTUCKY
LA LOUISIANA
ME MAINE
MD MARYLAND
MA MASSACHUSETTS
MI MICHIGAN
MN MINNESOTA
MS MISSISSIPPI
MO MISSOURI
MT MONTANA
NE NEBRASKA
NV NEVADA
NH NEW HAMPSHIRE
NJ NEW JERSEY
NM NEW MEXICO
NY NEW YORK
NC NORTH CAROLINA
ND NORTH DAKOTA
OH OHIO
OK OKLAHOMA
OR OREGON
PA PENNSYLVANIA
RI RHODE ISLAND
SC SOUTH CAROLINA
SD SOUTH DAKOTA
TN TENNESSEE
TX TEXAS
UT UTAH
VT VERMONT
VA VIRGINIA
WA WASHINGTON
WV WEST VIRGINIA
WI WISCONSIN
WY WYOMING
* DC DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
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| 1090.4 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | press on regardless | Wed Feb 23 1994 06:47 | 3 |
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Can they be used more than once?
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| 1090.5 | DC, PR, and once only | CAPNET::PJOHNSON | | Wed Feb 23 1994 06:49 | 5 |
| I think that the list can include both DC and PR, and no abbreviation
can be used more than once.
Thanks!
Pete
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| 1090.6 | .4 of course not | ATYISB::HILL | Don't worry, we have a cunning plan! | Wed Feb 23 1994 08:06 | 8 |
| .4
> Can they be used more than once?
No, since neither th nor ey are state abbreviations, they can't be used
at all.
:-)
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| 1090.7 | | OKFINE::KENAH | Nobody knows you're a dog | Wed Feb 23 1994 08:13 | 3 |
| re .3: Kansas is KS, not KA.
andrew
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| 1090.8 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | press on regardless | Wed Feb 23 1994 08:57 | 4 |
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.6 cute, baldrich. ;>
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| 1090.9 | | CSC32::S_BROOK | There and back to see how far it is | Wed Feb 23 1994 09:20 | 17 |
| Shame you can't add teh US postal abbreviations for Canadian provinces
in a N. American sample ...
this would add
BC (British Columbia)
AB (Alberta)
ON (Ontario)
QE (Quebec)
NS (Nova Scotia)
NB (New Brunswick)
NF (Newfoundland)
PE (Prince Edward Island)
and a few I can't remember ...
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| 1090.10 | | JIT081::DIAMOND | $ SET MIDNIGHT | Wed Feb 23 1994 17:46 | 5 |
| Indeed... why doesn't Postes Canada Post have a set (or two) of
abbreviations for U.S. states, differing from the U.S.'s own
abbreviations, eh?
-- Norman Diamond
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| 1090.11 | | ATYISB::HILL | Don't worry, we have a cunning plan! | Thu Feb 24 1994 00:53 | 8 |
| .8
.6 cute, baldrich. ;>
My personal name is quoting one of our new senior VPs,
i.e. what BP calls an Officer.
So why the reference to Baldrick (note spelling)? 8-)
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| 1090.12 | | SMURF::BINDER | Omnia tibi dicta non crede | Thu Feb 24 1994 06:24 | 8 |
| .11
Surely you know why the ref to Baldrick, Nick.
For them as doesn't, Baldrick is a character in the Blackadder series
from Brit TV. He's the dumb one. His "I have a cunning plan" has
become a cult thing among Blackadder fans, and I have a sound clip of
it on my Macintosh.
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| 1090.13 | Baldrick, VP of errmmm... | ATYISB::HILL | Don't worry, we have a cunning plan! | Thu Feb 24 1994 07:46 | 21 |
| Dick
Re .6 .8 .11 .12 and my personal name....
Yes, of course I know why the reference to Baldrick !!!!
More, for them as doesn't know, about Baldrick. When
things have got really tough he says "Don't worry, my
lord, I have a cunning plan". This is the precursor to
a plan so stupid that the audience know two things:
1 It has no chance at all that it'll work, and
2 The script will twist in such a way that, in defiance
of all logic, it nearly does work.
This struck a chord when a new member of BP's "Gang of 26"
said that he had a plan -- I thought a change of personal
name on Notes was called for.
Nick
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| 1090.14 | | CSC32::S_BROOK | There and back to see how far it is | Thu Feb 24 1994 08:28 | 22 |
| Actually, not so many years ago, Canada post DID accept different
abbreviations for US states .... Like Canadian province abbreviations,
they were 2, 3 or 4 letters long, if abbreviated at all!
RI = Rhode Island
Mass = Massachusetts
NY = New York
Col = Colorado
Ont = Ontario
PQ = Quebec (Province Quebec)
Alta = Alberta
Yuk = Yukon
etc etc
Actually, Postes Canada Post has NOT actually mandated any abbreviations
for provinces or states ... but seem to accept whatever. Perhaps for
presorted mail there are rules.
Stuart
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| 1090.15 | down with digrams | RAGMOP::T_PARMENTER | Unsung Superstar | Thu Feb 24 1994 09:03 | 3 |
| I thought I read last year that the USPO no longer requires those
singularly unevocative digrams.
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| 1090.16 | | PENUTS::DDESMAISONS | press on regardless | Thu Feb 24 1994 09:46 | 6 |
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re Baldrick - sorry about the misspelling - it looked
strange to me with a "k", for some reason.
di
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| 1090.17 | Long-winded reply about digrams et al. | SMURF::BINDER | Omnia tibi dicta non crede | Mon Feb 28 1994 09:09 | 66 |
| Re .15
The USPS has a tight set of guidelines for what you should do in re
addressing business letter mail; the guidelines should be followed for
personal mail, but there's no penalty for not following them beyond
slowed or mistaken delivery.
The bar-code area should be empty (4.5" wide by 0.625" high at the
extreme lower right corner of the piece.)
To qualify for quantity discounts, business mail must be sorted by ZIP
code, in lots of 250 or more pieces, and preprinted with POSTNET-coded
ZIP+4 bar code plus DPBC (an additional two digits of bar code, making
11 digits plus a check digit).
Addresses should include ZIP code or, better, ZIP+4 code. The lines of
the address block should contain increasingly more specific addressing
from bottom to top - roughly this:
ADDRESSEE'S PERSONAL NAME
DEPARTMENT/MAIL STOP
COMPANY NAME
SECONDARY ADDRESS (IF P O BOX, COULD BE STREET)
DELIVERY ADDRESS (STREET OR P O BOX - IF P O BOX, USE THAT NOT STREET)
CITY STATE/PROVINCE ZIP/POSTAL-CODE
COUNTRY
There are more lines designated, actually - I think the number of
possibilities is 11.
When the USPS started automating its sorting, one criterion was cost of
the OCR and bar-code readers. The POSTNET bar code was designed to be
read by *very* cheap readers and was hence rigidly specified. For
business mailers, the address block should be in an OCRable typeface
without serifs, such as Geneva, Univers, Avant Garde, or Helvetica.
The first version of the OCR software required all uppercase letters
with minimal punctuation; the current version of the software can read
mixed-case text with punctuation, and this is why they can now handle
states that are named by other than the digrams that Tom finds
anathema. But the digrams are preferred for reliability.
If the POSTNET bar code is not in the preferred location as I indicate
above, it can be attached to the address block; there are guidelines
about where it can be and what spacing is required.
The USPS's sorting process for business mail is this:
1. Pass through a bar code reader. If no bar code, ship to OCR. If
there is an invalid or unreadable bar code in the preferred area,
spray it and ship the piece to OCR. If bar code is present and
complete, place in outgoing bag. If code is present but not
complete, ship to OCR.
2. Pass through OCR. If there is a readable, valid address, and there
isn't anything mucking up the preferred bar-code area, spray on a
bar code. If there is a valid address and a partial bar code, add
the rest of the bar code, beginning with the last two digits of the
code that is present. If no valid address, ship to a human.
3. Human mis-sorting. :-)
All the mail I send from home is computer-addressed with the full
ZIP+4/DPBC 11-digit bar code, and the addresses are all standardized to
the USPS rules. I have found that doing this usually gets my mail to
its recipient a day quicker. I'm using a Mac with ClarisWorks and a
bitmapped POSTNET font that I created.
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| 1090.18 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Mon Feb 28 1994 13:08 | 6 |
| > CITY STATE/PROVINCE ZIP/POSTAL-CODE
> COUNTRY
Mail addressed to foreign countries that have 5-digit postal codes tends to
get routed to the matching U.S. post office. It's supposed to help if you
put the postal code before the city.
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| 1090.19 | WH AT WA ST HE QU ES TI ON | WMOIS::BLANCHARD | | Tue Mar 08 1994 09:31 | 7 |
| Well, it's so nice to see that after only 18 responses, we have so many
words created from the list of abbreviations of States!!! :) At this
rate there will be three new States by the time we answer the original
challenge.
Steve
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| 1090.20 | Hey -- what *was* the question? | OKFINE::KENAH | One centimeter equals 17 kroner | Tue Mar 08 1994 10:08 | 10 |
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>Well, it's so nice to see that after only 18 responses, we have so many
>words created from the list of abbreviations of States!!! :) At this
>rate there will be three new States by the time we answer the original
>challenge.
Welcome to the wonderful world of notes, where digressions, ratholes,
and sidebars are the rule, not the exception!
andrew
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| 1090.21 | | NOVA::FISHER | Tay-unned, rey-usted, rey-ady | Tue Mar 22 1994 09:06 | 11 |
| Since ratholes are the rule rather than the exception :-)
I was thinking last week that creativity ought to be allowed, e.g.,
BM for 'Bama
NP for North Pole
Of course it would only mess up an already too complicated problem.
:-)
ed
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| 1090.22 | In re .0 | SMURF::BINDER | Ut res per me meliores fiant | Wed Mar 23 1994 07:22 | 3 |
| If names are allowed, MARINELAND contains 10 characters.
At 8, LANDMINE matches the length of MAINLAND and CALAMINE, cited in .0.
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| 1090.23 | | DRDAN::KALIKOW | IDU/W3: So advanced, it's Simple! | Wed Mar 23 1994 08:33 | 7 |
| Good GOD man, what do you MEAN by un-ratholing this note! The veddy
IDEA!
Relevance, PAH!!
:-)
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| 1090.24 | | SMURF::BINDER | Ut res per me meliores fiant | Wed Mar 23 1994 11:07 | 2 |
| Forgive me, DrDan, it's been a very bad day and I just lost track of
where I was. Thought I was in a real notesfile.
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| 1090.25 | "Smek Smek!" (to the cheeks) (facial-type) | DRDAN::KALIKOW | IDU/W3: So advanced, it's Simple! | Wed Mar 23 1994 13:50 | 14 |
| (just so you know you're being disciplined, but in a militaristic
rather than poivoited way.)
*Don't* let it happen again!!!!!
Aside: "(How DOES he let it happen in the first place?)
(Ain't he the "anagram idiot savant" to boot?)"
Now, having meted out punishment to ya both physically & emotionally,
I think my work here is done...
:-)
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