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| 1053.1 |  | VMSMKT::KENAH | Escapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,Miracles | Wed Jun 30 1993 06:50 | 1 | 
|  |     Can we assume you've checked the usual sources?
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| 1053.2 |  | FORTY2::KNOWLES | DECspell snot awl ewe kneed | Wed Jun 30 1993 07:22 | 3 | 
|  |     Rings a bell. I think it's in ODQ�. I'll look it up tonight.
    
    b
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| 1053.3 |  | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ |  | Wed Jun 30 1993 07:54 | 15 | 
|  |        re .1:
       
       No.  I don't own a Bartlett's, and I don't know where my local
       library is.  Even if I did know, the opening hours are probably
       from 9-11 am Tuesdays and Wednesdays, because of budget cutbacks.
       
       I couldn't find the quote anywhere in the VMS doc set (I think
       it's V3.0 that I have in my office), in the ISO/IEC POSIX 1003.1
       standard, or in the latest organizational announcements for my
       group.
       
       I am, as is so often the case, relying on the kindness of
       strangers and stranges.
       
       --Mr Topaz
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| 1053.4 |  | VMSMKT::KENAH | Escapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,Miracles | Wed Jun 30 1993 08:29 | 7 | 
|  |     >   No.  I don't own a Bartlett's, and I don't know where my local
    >   library is.  Even if I did know, the opening hours are probably
    >   from 9-11 am Tuesdays and Wednesdays, because of budget cutbacks.
    
    ZK1-3 -- it has a copy of Bartlett's, and it's open even as we speak.
    
    					andrew
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| 1053.5 | (like the joke about the mathematician and the fire) | TLE::JBISHOP |  | Wed Jun 30 1993 10:54 | 5 | 
|  |     "Triumph of hope over experience" is how I remember it.
    
    So Andrew, why didn't you look it up and tell us?
    
    		-John Bishop
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| 1053.6 |  | VMSMKT::KENAH | Escapes,Lies,Truth,Passion,Miracles | Wed Jun 30 1993 12:28 | 1 | 
|  |     I might...
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| 1053.8 | Dr. Samuel Johnson | MU::PORTER | datapanik | Wed Jun 30 1993 20:17 | 8 | 
|  |     re .0
    
    "A gentleman who had been very unhappy in marriage, married 
     immediately after his wife died: Johnson said, it was the
     triumph of hope over experience."
    
    Boswell's "Life of Johnson".
    
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| 1053.9 |  | CALLME::MR_TOPAZ |  | Thu Jul 01 1993 04:52 | 6 | 
|  |        
       re .8:
       
       Thank you.
       
       --Mr Topaz
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| 1053.10 | bon mot, not general verity | FORTY2::KNOWLES | DECspell snot awl ewe kneed | Mon Jul 05 1993 06:11 | 8 | 
|  |     And Dr Johnson was talking about a particular man, so he wasn't saying
    - generally - that getting married a second time exemplified the
    triumph of hope over experience (although it's conceivable that he may
    have _thought_ that), but that in a particular instance  (where one man
    had been unhappily married before - I forget the details, but I've got
    them at home) it was surprising he should marry again.
    
    b
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